On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile.
Is it illegal to share my opinion acro?
No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur.
you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy?
On March 05 2019 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Remember I only have this game to go on.
Buuuut.
Looking through your filter, every time you have town read someone you have quoted something they have posted and given a reason why that post makes you town read them. Usually this process makes sense but then with trfel we get this:
On March 05 2019 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:32 Trfel wrote: STILL NO ONE HAS SAID A SINGLE THING TO ME
NOT ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY I AM MAFIA NOT ONE QUESTION NOTHING
Do you realize what is happening? If I'm lynched, fine, whatever, but someone acknowledge my existence please!
You've been way too confident on your reads for me and it seems convenient where you ended up but fuck me if I'm not being a sucker :/
I don't know what this post is at all. Unless I'm literally reading your words wrong, you're giving a reason why you should lynch trfel whilst changing your vote. This isn't a town read.
On March 05 2019 08:46 rsoultin wrote: it's not even for a good reason it just /feels/ like maybe he's town lol >< fml
And then that happened and it just seems weird to me.
okay. i can see why that might confuse you. it was like 2 mins or something to deadline and i was focused on things more important than quoting and explaining shit but you can't know that or my motivations -shrugs-
i should really read things fully before i respond. i was telling him why i'd scumread him :/ and i still believed those valid but felt he was town, so it came down to choosing whether my original reasons were stronger or the feels were. i went with feels and yes that's partly cause he would have been around to evaluate later and partly just cause i'm more susceptible to doubts near EoD anyway ><
truffle is a player who waffles a lot on his reads. on the one hand, on the other hand, these are points against them, and these are for, and ultimately i think he falls on this or that side. i'm not used to this apparenltly new? version of him where he's stating his reads more confidently. so
Why are you defending yourself so much?
Why not though
I have often way over-defended myself, it’s a pride thing (and she is that)
Because scum are more interested defending themself........
It’s like you didn’t read my post bro
If she is mafia it isn’t for that
Want to hear this though---do you think she is mafia? Or just shutting down bad read?
On March 06 2019 01:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Why not? I like him and he's a fun guy to talk to.
We got other things we got to worry about like finding the other scums :o
LS with all due respect, get off my dick and do something? Please and thank you? :D
Jeez man I was thinking about Damdred tbh. What you think of Damdred?
He's done dick all. Also I'm bad at reading him. What is general consensus on him? I can't remember anyone talking about him much at all.
There's a bunch of players (you, DAmdred, rsoul, Trfel, I think there's more?) that all seem to have the idea that you can read each other pretty well, has that been happening?
I am mixed on him but I think he's only mafia if Tina is town honestly. Gut says town I really want him to do more work honestly.
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile.
Is it illegal to share my opinion acro?
No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur.
you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy?
No. But ok. You already dealt with if BH is a townie. Now:
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
On March 04 2019 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote: My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious. Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy.
-amused- I'm really not responsible for your lack of reading comprehension. Maybe responsible for being a scattered poster with a chipmunk memory, but that's another thing. The number of people who either don't (or pretend they don't, as the case was last time I remember) get when I say I 'don't like' someone and put them in my lynch list that that's a scumread is kinda staggering.
But carry on boyo. I'm not hating your focus on how people are reading you.
Ok I remember giving her a pass from this explanation earlier but I realize it doesn't actually explain what I want it to She still didn't elaborate on what put me on her list here---I geuss considering her list was supposedly 8 people long here maybe it was just the look of my posting or that something about me felt 'off,' but just why can't seh say so when so many other people had no problem with it? I keep coming back to this and it bothers me so much. As does much of her filter throughout the day where she pokes at people and seems afraid to make reads.
Other times she does though so bleargh Still going
On March 05 2019 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Remember I only have this game to go on.
Buuuut.
Looking through your filter, every time you have town read someone you have quoted something they have posted and given a reason why that post makes you town read them. Usually this process makes sense but then with trfel we get this:
On March 05 2019 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:32 Trfel wrote: STILL NO ONE HAS SAID A SINGLE THING TO ME
NOT ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY I AM MAFIA NOT ONE QUESTION NOTHING
Do you realize what is happening? If I'm lynched, fine, whatever, but someone acknowledge my existence please!
You've been way too confident on your reads for me and it seems convenient where you ended up but fuck me if I'm not being a sucker :/
I don't know what this post is at all. Unless I'm literally reading your words wrong, you're giving a reason why you should lynch trfel whilst changing your vote. This isn't a town read.
On March 05 2019 08:46 rsoultin wrote: it's not even for a good reason it just /feels/ like maybe he's town lol >< fml
And then that happened and it just seems weird to me.
okay. i can see why that might confuse you. it was like 2 mins or something to deadline and i was focused on things more important than quoting and explaining shit but you can't know that or my motivations -shrugs-
i should really read things fully before i respond. i was telling him why i'd scumread him :/ and i still believed those valid but felt he was town, so it came down to choosing whether my original reasons were stronger or the feels were. i went with feels and yes that's partly cause he would have been around to evaluate later and partly just cause i'm more susceptible to doubts near EoD anyway ><
truffle is a player who waffles a lot on his reads. on the one hand, on the other hand, these are points against them, and these are for, and ultimately i think he falls on this or that side. i'm not used to this apparenltly new? version of him where he's stating his reads more confidently. so
Why are you defending yourself so much?
Why not though
I have often way over-defended myself, it’s a pride thing (and she is that)
Because scum are more interested defending themself........
It’s like you didn’t read my post bro
If she is mafia it isn’t for that
Want to hear this though---do you think she is mafia? Or just shutting down bad read?
I am having trouble with this re-read of rsoul
Didn't marv say he hadn't read the thread properly at that time? I hardly think that's a good post to read Marv anything in the slightest and seems like a bit of a stretch. You also completely eradicate any town building points with the second quote. What is the point of the first half if you still have questions that need answering?
Alakaslam, if you have a sure fire scum read on me then I suggest you share with the thread. What benefit do you bring to anyone in the game sitting back posting videos and gloating when you have me "dead to rights"?
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile.
Is it illegal to share my opinion acro?
No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur.
you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy?
No. But ok. You already dealt with if BH is a townie. Now:
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
What if BH is a goon?
Then the switch is ~~~ because conversion has to know that he’s probably going down after bh flips so there’s a decent chance it’s a 2 for 1 so I’m not sure he does that if bh is a goon
+ points from me Something you said sounded scummy earlier today and I forget what it was but this made me forget all about it.
okay not really
Was it that thing i said about you being mafia?
I've mostly been ignoring that because at this point I should be obvious town to damn near everyone but you're new here supposedly, so I can forgive that. And I do like how you've been playing, regardless of alignment. (If TL mafia somehow keeps going after this, stick around. You're a nice addition.)
Yeah looking through your earlier stuff at first I didn't like it obviously since you were calling me scum, but you went way more in depth than anyone else did and put effort into it. Basic stuff like calling out weak play ultimately, but you gave good explanations and context.
On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote: I've been keeping up but not posting. Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit?
Post almost screams town. Ugh maybe the 'newbie' thing is clouding my judgment but I feel like not too many people are ok posting that for fear of (even if not worrying someone will find it scummy) garnering too much attention.
Oh yeah THIS post.
On March 05 2019 17:55 Jockmcplop wrote: I don't get the palmar kill. I get why hf would say he's going to lynch palmar but I really thought he was going to go on something stronger than 'Well I said I would' when deciding who to kill. He had already got himself a ton of info, could have got even more by killing someone else.
My townread on rsoultin is fading fast. Something about the way she kickstarted the trfel train and the got out of the way at the last second.
I think other people called this out but I don't even understand what you're asking here. HF said he'd kill Palmar, he did. You are acting surprised by this for some reason? Despite you voting for him? Like...wtf IS this?
Anyway the good outweighs the bad here imo but that post-lynch stuff is so weird in what is actually a pretty damn good filter. Like your suspicions on rsoul now (for obvious reason) and you thinking I'm scummy actually doesn't mean much to me right now.
On March 06 2019 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Marv being back here gives me good feels Also this post
On March 05 2019 09:42 marvellosity wrote: you should probably listen to dead-town Palmar and kill Sentinel though, it was a good read
Marv making the conversion slot so much more difficult. Would not lynch above a whole host of others
On March 06 2019 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:34 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:07 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:02 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 23:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Remember I only have this game to go on.
Buuuut.
Looking through your filter, every time you have town read someone you have quoted something they have posted and given a reason why that post makes you town read them. Usually this process makes sense but then with trfel we get this:
On March 05 2019 08:37 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
You've been way too confident on your reads for me and it seems convenient where you ended up but fuck me if I'm not being a sucker :/
I don't know what this post is at all. Unless I'm literally reading your words wrong, you're giving a reason why you should lynch trfel whilst changing your vote. This isn't a town read.
On March 05 2019 08:46 rsoultin wrote: it's not even for a good reason it just /feels/ like maybe he's town lol >< fml
And then that happened and it just seems weird to me.
okay. i can see why that might confuse you. it was like 2 mins or something to deadline and i was focused on things more important than quoting and explaining shit but you can't know that or my motivations -shrugs-
i should really read things fully before i respond. i was telling him why i'd scumread him :/ and i still believed those valid but felt he was town, so it came down to choosing whether my original reasons were stronger or the feels were. i went with feels and yes that's partly cause he would have been around to evaluate later and partly just cause i'm more susceptible to doubts near EoD anyway ><
truffle is a player who waffles a lot on his reads. on the one hand, on the other hand, these are points against them, and these are for, and ultimately i think he falls on this or that side. i'm not used to this apparenltly new? version of him where he's stating his reads more confidently. so
Why are you defending yourself so much?
Why not though
I have often way over-defended myself, it’s a pride thing (and she is that)
Because scum are more interested defending themself........
It’s like you didn’t read my post bro
If she is mafia it isn’t for that
Want to hear this though---do you think she is mafia? Or just shutting down bad read?
I am having trouble with this re-read of rsoul
Didn't marv say he hadn't read the thread properly at that time? I hardly think that's a good post to read Marv anything in the slightest and seems like a bit of a stretch. You also completely eradicate any town building points with the second quote. What is the point of the first half if you still have questions that need answering?
wtf? Because I want to know what marv thinks of rsoul? How are those things in any way related?
On March 06 2019 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Marv being back here gives me good feels Also this post
On March 05 2019 09:42 marvellosity wrote: you should probably listen to dead-town Palmar and kill Sentinel though, it was a good read
Marv making the conversion slot so much more difficult. Would not lynch above a whole host of others
On March 06 2019 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:34 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:07 iamperfection wrote:
On March 06 2019 00:02 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 23:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 05 2019 23:49 Jockmcplop wrote: Remember I only have this game to go on.
Buuuut.
Looking through your filter, every time you have town read someone you have quoted something they have posted and given a reason why that post makes you town read them. Usually this process makes sense but then with trfel we get this:
[quote]
I don't know what this post is at all. Unless I'm literally reading your words wrong, you're giving a reason why you should lynch trfel whilst changing your vote. This isn't a town read.
[quote]
And then that happened and it just seems weird to me.
okay. i can see why that might confuse you. it was like 2 mins or something to deadline and i was focused on things more important than quoting and explaining shit but you can't know that or my motivations -shrugs-
i should really read things fully before i respond. i was telling him why i'd scumread him :/ and i still believed those valid but felt he was town, so it came down to choosing whether my original reasons were stronger or the feels were. i went with feels and yes that's partly cause he would have been around to evaluate later and partly just cause i'm more susceptible to doubts near EoD anyway ><
truffle is a player who waffles a lot on his reads. on the one hand, on the other hand, these are points against them, and these are for, and ultimately i think he falls on this or that side. i'm not used to this apparenltly new? version of him where he's stating his reads more confidently. so
Why are you defending yourself so much?
Why not though
I have often way over-defended myself, it’s a pride thing (and she is that)
Because scum are more interested defending themself........
It’s like you didn’t read my post bro
If she is mafia it isn’t for that
Want to hear this though---do you think she is mafia? Or just shutting down bad read?
I am having trouble with this re-read of rsoul
Didn't marv say he hadn't read the thread properly at that time? I hardly think that's a good post to read Marv anything in the slightest and seems like a bit of a stretch. You also completely eradicate any town building points with the second quote. What is the point of the first half if you still have questions that need answering?
wtf? Because I want to know what marv thinks of rsoul? How are those things in any way related?
Because your "want to hear this though" -- sounded like you were waiting on his answer to definitively decide his alignment. Is that incorrect?
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile.
Is it illegal to share my opinion acro?
No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur.
you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy?
No. But ok. You already dealt with if BH is a townie. Now:
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
What if BH is a goon?
Then the switch is ~~~ because conversion has to know that he’s probably going down after bh flips so there’s a decent chance it’s a 2 for 1 so I’m not sure he does that if bh is a goon
Does he though? He was replaced out and could never be called out on his vote switching shenanigans, and BH already explained how townies can do it. Moreover, it was in the context of HF shooting Palmar in the face, so scum also knew that shitstorm was going down simultaneously. I reckon he figured he could get away with it, and being replaced by marv, the king of scummers everywhere, there was a good chance they'd even bullshit their way out of it. At least as long as BH is unflipped, anyway.
And they aren't wrong. We probably shouldn't focus on that. BH looks like he might start playing, and his "GG guys" post was pretty townie (although if they knew they were gonna vote shenannies, that could've been precrafted to be good).
Meanwhile, the HF situation is a far bigger problem. Either one of the major town voices is scum and we need to get rid of him. Or he's an idiot scum sympathizer and we have to get rid of him anyway. So we need to get rid of HF *now*. Or in the words of the great Palmar, may he rest in peace:
I went into Sentinel's filter with the mindset that he was mafia and I came out thinking he was town. I can't be bothered to look at his older games but he reads much more sarcastic and not giving a shit-y than I previously thought. Doesn't look like mafia to me.
Ok wait a minute. I think I found something solid on rsoul?
Am I crazy in that nowhere does she solidly state WHY she thinks Palmar is scum aside from the fact that she likes Rayn's case which she then assumes to be a bus? This gives some context to her waffling a little on it later but earlier on in the day she just states 'he's a scumread' a bunch with almost no context aside from the fact that the idea seems to be gaining some traction. Like the only post where she gives even a bit of information at all, half of it is dedicated to talk about whether he does or doesnt play as scum or town on weekends.
And then later on she mentions how he can push a wagon as scum or town.
This might be it. Like, the rest of her filter looks ok, I don't mind the style where she pops in and snipes stuff here and there because there is actually some work/reads here and there. But it's when it comes to stuff that COUNTS that things always look off to me (ie. reads on me because I know my own alignment, reads on flipped players)
On March 06 2019 02:35 Holyflare wrote: I don't think mafia would have any idea that I would shoot Palmar in the slightest. They would have thought it was a ruse.
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