On March 11 2019 08:10 Grackaroni wrote:
What is mafia traitor?
What is mafia traitor?
the one time I've played with one, it worked as followed: they win with mafia but don't know who the mafia team is and vice versa.
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Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:12 GMT
#6866
On March 11 2019 08:10 Grackaroni wrote: What is mafia traitor? the one time I've played with one, it worked as followed: they win with mafia but don't know who the mafia team is and vice versa. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:13 GMT
#6870
On March 11 2019 08:09 kitaman27 wrote: [UoN]Sentinel always struggled to fit in. Abandoned by his own brothers, he was left alone to fend for himself. His inability to form a connection with anyone left him feeling a lack of identity. But today that would change. He would read his role PM and finally learn who his true friends were. Sadly, that information was redacted. the flavor kinda says it too | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:14 GMT
#6873
On March 11 2019 08:13 Vivax wrote: Read flavour, Sentinel knew who mafia was. Mafia most likely knew there was a traitor but not who it was. I read it the opposite way => he wanted to know who his real friends were, but the information was not there | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:18 GMT
#6886
On March 11 2019 08:16 LightningStrike wrote: Ace is likely town based on Sent thing on Ace unless you guys think he was going for a bus? Ace if scum didn't know Sent was traitor. A traitor flip is nice but don't give any associative infos | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:25 GMT
#6908
On March 11 2019 08:20 Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2019 08:18 Rels wrote: On March 11 2019 08:16 LightningStrike wrote: Ace is likely town based on Sent thing on Ace unless you guys think he was going for a bus? Ace if scum didn't know Sent was traitor. A traitor flip is nice but don't give any associative infos Indeed. If Mafia didn't know who traitor was, then a Sent flip tells you nothing about me via association. But, looking at the cases being made against Sent in isolation should tell you the probability of me being Scum here is low. I'll resume fighting you later ![]() | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:30 GMT
#6914
+ Show Spoiler + 69 Rels 03-08-2019 07:05 PM ET (US) EDIT DELETE I was town you dummy ![]() 68 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-08-2019 05:05 PM ET (US) I hate that I can't link anything in here lol >< My reads are at the end of my filter if I'm deaded and you're not, and you're town and care about my opinion lol >< 67 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 03:22 PM ET (US) I mean, I thought you were mafia? Honestly still think you could be but your upset is making me question that >< And yes I do feel like a dick if I ruined your fun when you were just trying to be nice to me. For that I apologize. Wouldn't have outed your role ever if I was town or even null-reading you. 66 Rels 03-07-2019 03:10 PM ET (US) disappointed 65 Rels 03-07-2019 03:10 PM ET (US) I stil lthink it was super bad mannered from you to claim my role before consulting me. I'm kinda angry at you for that. Angry is not the right word but IDK what is the word I'm looking for 64 Rels 03-07-2019 03:09 PM ET (US) and I wanted to invite rayn, but I invited you 'cause I thought you needed it, and now rayn is angry (even though he shouldn't be, that ego lol), and you have betrayed me so nothing is going well 63 Rels 03-07-2019 03:07 PM ET (US) but IDK it was my role I wanted to create a secret town club and win the last game of TL like that. Would have been awesome 62 Rels 03-07-2019 03:06 PM ET (US) I realize I might be petty 61 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 02:30 PM ET (US) i didn't read it. you're fine. i'm still not entirely sure what would make you so upset? this doesn't appear to be a role that requires any kind of secrecy 60 Rels 03-07-2019 12:47 PM ET (US) sry about the slur 59 Deleted by author 03-07-2019 12:47 PM 58 Rels 03-07-2019 12:44 PM ET (US) rayn is right, should have invited him 57 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 09:54 AM ET (US) why do you care if i claim your "useless" role? edit: well, regardless, if you're town i apologize but it was necessary to explain my scumread on you. or at least i thought it was and i'm not going to analyze your reaction here from a town/mafia dichotomy out of respect that you might be town and genuinely upset if you are though i hope to see something to convince me cause yeah...you're just not showing your town self in your postsEdited 03-07-2019 11:12 AM 56 Rels 03-07-2019 09:53 AM ET (US) ofc. Not talking to you anymore 55 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 09:51 AM ET (US) are you? 54 Rels 03-07-2019 09:50 AM ET (US) fuck you. Don't talk to as if I'm town after claiming lmty role 53 Rels 03-07-2019 09:49 AM ET (US) ?? 52 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 09:27 AM ET (US) Blah my motivation is nill. My methods don't work for a game this size and I can't find energy after yesterday to slog through the game. So what's holding you back, then, assuming I'm wrong and you're actually town here? 51 Rels 03-07-2019 08:58 AM ET (US) Ok 50 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 04:05 AM ET (US) Yeah, so you should check the thread. I told everyone about the QT and the way you've handled things makes me think you're scum -shrugs- It really feels like you just expected me to townread you off this. I gave you a lot of time to start talking about literally anything unprompted and only your grack read sort of comes close. 49 Rels 03-06-2019 11:23 PM ET (US) don't think you ahve a read on sent, he's a good filter if you didn't read it already. Some fishy things => see my filter, should be at the end 'cause I don't think I'm gonna stay up much longer 48 Rels 03-06-2019 11:22 PM ET (US) well fucking Grack got me when I was gonna sleep so I've done most of them ![]() 47 Rels 03-06-2019 09:11 PM ET (US) yeah I have like 15 people I wanna filter. Don't think it's gonna happen tonight though. And I didn't see anything that was scummier than BH 46 Rels 03-06-2019 08:53 PM ET (US) lol p: 45 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 07:00 PM ET (US) Looking forward to your read vomit ![]() 44 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 02:34 PM ET (US) Blah I'm going to need to prioritize filters no way I'm getting through everything when I wanted to. 43 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 02:01 PM ET (US) oats just looks really town to me tbh. like super duper town lol >< i could elaborate but i'd just be like describing the definition of what it means to be 'town' 42 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 02:00 PM ET (US) ah yeah fair 41 Rels 03-06-2019 01:17 PM ET (US) lol cant post link. Post 1144 from TT feels real, and cheap if he's scum 40 Rels 03-06-2019 01:10 PM ET (US) I remember having a good reason thinking TT was town but I don't remember it 39 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 12:50 PM ET (US) Eh, TT is someone I wanted to townread for his early approach to the game and his comments about how rayn and I play, but I'm not sure what's going on with his disappearing scumreads. I find his response okay and in-line with what else I've seen but yeah that downgrades him to just a town lean. Reactions aren't exactly contradictory but they make me itch.Edited 03-06-2019 01:15 PM 38 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 12:49 PM ET (US) Just look in his filter around EoD when he's confronting Iam? (and you can definitely right cause I'm bad at reading BH lol ><) 37 Rels 03-06-2019 12:38 PM ET (US) shitting the thread with a stupid read is a good mafia motivation? I read BH filter yesterday and I remember thinking all this talk about policy lynch and proper lynch etc. played perfectly with a plan of creating chaos. Dunno if you have a particular post in mijnd? 36 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 12:25 PM ET (US) Well I'm glad you responded, but I'm not saying him voting for himself shows he's town. I'm saying that going after Iam for claiming it was more than a policy lynch I don't see a mafia motivation for. 35 Rels 03-06-2019 12:00 PM ET (US) I disagree pretty strongly on BH. Given his play D1, if he's mafia his buddies has prepared his lynch and are playing accordingly. Him shitting up the thread and not voting himself is a nice strategy, that doesn't show he's town at all 34 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 10:03 AM ET (US) Yeah, I'm okay with Tube. Light townlean. Still have reservations with his lack of a read on Palmar but nothing major. 33 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 09:58 AM ET (US) BH...yeah the original reason he seemed a bit townish to me was his thing with Iamp. Not sure what the mafia motivation for it could be when he was likely to be lynched. I hate his little narrative things but I frequently want to lynch him when he's town because he sets off my BS meter and he's actually doing less of that than he usually does, overdramatized lynch me aside. Also yeah no vote to save himself. Townlean. 32 Rels 03-06-2019 09:27 AM ET (US) So that'll have to wait a little :p 31 Rels 03-06-2019 09:26 AM ET (US) I'm at work now, planning on playing at lunch break if nothing else explodes at work 30 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 09:24 AM ET (US) Apart from being irritated at LS for calling my one genuinely emotional post at rayn 'forced', there're no red flags in his filter after he came back from his yelling fit to make me reconsider the townread on him. Strong town. 29 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 09:16 AM ET (US) Yeah I'm against fear kills, especially on good town players who can win us the game and might actually be kept alive because of all of the scrutiny and chaos in thread. I think the fact this opinion is being voiced so little is also a wifomy factor in favor of his being town tbh. Talk to me about someone I haven't discussed yet. Tube's posting is okayish I can see where his head's at and that he might be poking into things. The part I'm really unclear on is where he stood with Palmar. I asked about conversion but I suspect he was just townreading Acro and didn't have much of an opinion on Conv when he said he was okay with lynching him. Null until he clarifies Palmar. 28 Rels 03-06-2019 09:00 AM ET (US) Like, I have this cycle of: - he's not shitting up the thread he's engaging people and making good posts! - but if he's scum and we let him live he's gonna mock us forever 27 Rels 03-06-2019 08:58 AM ET (US) I'm waffling on hf hard. I don't want to let him win and look stupid 26 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 08:54 AM ET (US) You should start discussing your reads now too since you're actually here xP we can pretend it's a real mason thread and not me trying to get a read on mr. eager >> 25 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 08:53 AM ET (US) Eh he's a lean because I usually can see something smart and shiny in town Onegu's posting. Granted it's been years and was always a bit of a fine line which is why I'm not super sold on it. Yeah, I may be the biggest sucker of them all but HF just screams town to me. Even poking through his shit looking for anything with other people's scumreads and arguments in mind his thought process is so crystal clear, progression there, and adjusting with new info. I'm fine being wrong on him if it turns out that way. 24 Rels 03-06-2019 08:15 AM ET (US) I want Ace to be the legend I thought he was ![]() 23 Rels 03-06-2019 08:14 AM ET (US) I don't know how that changes from town Onegu though but I can never read the guy 22 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-06-2019 07:49 AM ET (US) Fecalfeast - townread (med to strong) - seems super engaged, having fun, arriving at reads before or independently of others several of which gave me similar vibes, relaxed responses to suspicion on him. pretty confident this is a town FF 21 rsoultin 03-06-2019 07:34 AM ET (US) So I'm just gonna start using this for personal notes rather than spamming the thread or writing in a notebook. Any comments/counters are welcome. Onegu - scumlean - votes match up w/ reads fine and the damdred read shows a little bit of a glimmer of what i meant by onegu doing his own thing, but I'd expect more from him and at least some sort of even weak opinion on what's actually going on right now, of which there's nothing 20 Rels 03-05-2019 08:13 PM ET (US) good night ^^ 19 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 08:11 PM ET (US) Cool hi stella! And if that's the case that's good for my purple read heh >> 18 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 08:10 PM ET (US) Pft it's after 2. I only glanced at thread cause trouble sleeping and saw the pm notification lol >< gonna try to get some sleep. So like dude if you want to talk reads or whatever just leave an here for me and I'll take a look in morning ^^ 17 Rels 03-05-2019 08:10 PM ET (US) BTW Stella says hi she's shadowing me ![]() 16 Rels 03-05-2019 08:09 PM ET (US) oh I see the post you're thinking about. Don't think he's saying he shot him 15 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 08:06 PM ET (US) I'm unclear if he did it was just scumreading him and I hate trying to filter on phone lol >< 14 Rels 03-05-2019 08:04 PM ET (US) ? did Vivax claim he shot marv? 13 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 08:03 PM ET (US) I'm the other hand it's a get out of jail free card for just discussing with another player in the game so...not so bad either ^^ 12 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 07:58 PM ET (US) Lol shh >> it started off butthurt and then it was just fun to express frustration at people not being able to read. And no it's not a great role since it doesn't confirm alignments. 11 Rels 03-05-2019 07:55 PM ET (US) not super useful TBH but maybe you can be butthurt here instead of in the thread p: 10 Rels 03-05-2019 07:54 PM ET (US) just mason. I can invite someone each night 9 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 07:54 PM ET (US) Lol figured given your hints. So what is this weirdo role? 8 Rels 03-05-2019 07:53 PM ET (US) I knew it, coming from a sideway flag girl p: 7 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 07:52 PM ET (US) Nope ^^ 6 GUESS 03-05-2019 07:49 PM ET (US) no? Come on at least 1 and I'll tell you p: 5 GUESS 03-05-2019 07:45 PM ET (US) guess? ![]() 4 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 07:44 PM ET (US) So this is a possibility not in the role listing which means I can't suss alignment easily pfft. How rude. Who this? I can guess but am deciding not to ^^ 3 rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-05-2019 07:40 PM ET (US) Lol >< i don't even have an idea of the roles in this game but yay qt? 2 DefinitelyLexNeverNotLex 03-05-2019 07:13 PM ET (US) hello it's definitely Lex. No bait | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:34 GMT
#6919
On March 11 2019 08:33 Onegu wrote: Rels I am expecting a mason invite now... we'll see ![]() | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 23:37 GMT
#6924
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Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 01:00 GMT
#6984
On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote: Boom! Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town! Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor. However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT). Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot. I thought Chez v Ace were SvS because I thought both Chez and Ace were scum, and because a lot of lurkers didn't vote | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 01:02 GMT
#6985
On March 11 2019 08:43 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2019 08:35 Tictock wrote: Boom! Ty for giving me the lynch I asked for town! Time for a bit of tinfoil before I read what I missed: This probably means Rel's role shit would be mafia related as it is the most likely way that Mafia would recruit a traitor. However I don't really think role related reads work very well and I kinda now heavily suspect Rels due to some other stuff (such as calling Chez v Ace as Scum v Scum, when I noted the EoD felt dead and possibly meant TvT). Actually it's probably dinner time for me and then will come back to this game tonight. Need to think as well because Sent being a traitor could mean he didn't know anything about the full mafia team, which makes my earlier conclusion of him flipping scum clearing Ace possibly moot. This seems plausible. If Rels picks a townie, it's a new qt. If Rels picks the traitor, he gets access to the mafia qt. He picked tina N1 cause idk, and apparently rayn N2 maybe because of this post. Show nested quote + On March 08 2019 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: On March 08 2019 04:09 Acrofales wrote: On March 08 2019 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote: On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote: On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote: On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote: go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself go after conversion -> leaves the game I may have a problem. You’re not the problem. Neither is HF. ? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point? I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar. Why are you townreading HF? It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with. While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does. I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever. Lol if he killed rayn he 100% dies today Not if rayn is scum. But that'd be an amazing bus. i am super scum though. that only makes sense if you think rayn wasn't shot by scum | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 16:49 GMT
#7091
On March 11 2019 17:30 Acrofales wrote: @rels: thanks for posting the transcripts. I'm still not sure why you got so angry about rsoul posting your role. You didn't use the QT much before she blurted it out in the thread and this seems like a totally cool reason for telling the chat: Show nested quote + rsoultinPerson was signed in when posted 03-07-2019 04:05 AM ET (US) Yeah, so you should check the thread. I told everyone about the QT and the way you've handled things makes me think you're scum -shrugs- It really feels like you just expected me to townread you off this. I gave you a lot of time to start talking about literally anything unprompted and only your grack read sort of comes close. 49 What exactly made you so upset? You say betrayed, but I don't see how. Care to elaborate on why the QT being outed even affects at all how you can use it? Show nested quote + 63 Rels 03-07-2019 03:07 PM ET (US) but IDK it was my role I wanted to create a secret town club and win the last game of TL like that. Would have been awesome Anyway, if this is somehow a scum tool for finding sentinel, rels' use seems weird. Did he think rsoultin might be the traitor? Don't really see why from her filter. So if this was the scum tool for that he either went and used it in his own way, or was playing badly. I'm back to this being a pretty townie use of the neighborizer role. Still not too sure of Rels, but the exchange we had yesterday made me lean more towards town, and I don't think the use of the QT was somehow scummy either. I don't have a logical reason p: that's kinda my ego talking. But I thought having a secret club of townies was really cool, even more so if it was rsoul and rayn 'cause I like playing with them. With her outting the QT, it's not possible anymore. Furthermore, I masoned her instead of rayn partly because I thought she would like to have a place to breathe outside the game, she was quite angry at some point early in the game; I did her a favor and she outted my role without even talking to me about it first! At least tha'ts how it felt at the time. I realize she was trying to solve the game and her actions are logical; but I felt betrayed all the same. It's not logical, it's emotional. | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 20:53 GMT
#7161
On March 12 2019 05:07 Vivax wrote: HEY RELS, WHO DID YOU MASON. IF YOU SAY NO-ONE, YOU ARE CONFIRMED MAFIA N1 rsoul N2 rayn, N3 I ve decided but won't say until tomorrow if I live | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 21:08 GMT
#7163
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Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 21:09 GMT
#7164
Also paraphrase what? | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 11 2019 21:12 GMT
#7165
Well, no spoil but I wouldn't bet on it ![]() | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 12 2019 01:09 GMT
#7224
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Rels
France13467 Posts
March 12 2019 01:14 GMT
#7225
On March 12 2019 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote: My bomb was on chezinu for the record probably why scum was afraid to kill you | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 12 2019 01:18 GMT
#7226
##Vote Chezinu | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 12 2019 03:34 GMT
#7240
On March 12 2019 11:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Can we talk about vivax? He should be 100% gone by now also 1000% gone. I wanna say the ace kill means that scum knew that sent was mafia that's a good theory actually | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
March 13 2019 02:08 GMT
#7492
On March 12 2019 15:53 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 10:14 Rels wrote: On March 12 2019 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote: My bomb was on chezinu for the record probably why scum was afraid to kill you Thats acualy true. If mafia knows ff is town they kill him if chez is town because its a 2 for 1 shot. Of course ff puts the bomb on the guy claiming his role who wouldnt. Like the logic is so sound no one can dispute today is over not voting chez is a scum claim. Goodbye see you next cycle this ones already over yep. That was my reasonning | ||
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