EPTOn November 03 2018 07:10 Rels wrote:
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team
my brain tells me there is probably one scum in the first team
Now, which one, and why. Time to put some meat on the bone.
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Now, which one, and why. Time to put some meat on the bone. | ||
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Fascists cannot communicate with each other outside the thread (like in normal mafia game). | ||
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On November 04 2018 05:00 Rels wrote: do fascists really know each other ? I thought that too, but reading the OP it looks like they don't Yeah you are scum you know this already you have played this on voice mafia. | ||
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Your play so far has been nothing but about "vote analysis" where you have every single time ended up on "i dont have more than before the vote". that's bullshit, for real that is. You have not managed to make a single read, other than your early game read on krogan / grack (that they are town) because of reasons that dont even make sense, yet you have voted against every government that has included them as president (which should be enough for you to vote yes, because if you believe they are town and a "mission" fails, you have 100% scum in your opinion). so yeah Rels, you are full of shit this game. | ||
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Play the game if you are town, if you are not, like you most likely arent, you can continue with your bs. | ||
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Yeah maybe you heavent but you should know that's not how the game works and i dont give a single shit going 1v1 against you because you are scum. | ||
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On November 04 2018 08:56 Grackaroni wrote: Anyone watching blizzcon? yes, sc2, shit game but serral is playing so... | ||
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On November 05 2018 05:42 prplhz wrote: I don't know, I just don't get how, that not wanting to take responsibility and do stuff is a townie thing. Downvoting your own government because of the chancellor that you yourself chose seems like he didn't even want to get elected in the first place. I think that his reason for passing me 2L instead of 1L1F seems townie but I'm not even convinced that that is what he did. And even just watching the cards dealt to him, and to me, seems to be worth it. I don't think you are necessarily wrong here, or like, i think Grack is town but this doesn't soud dumb or anything. Except that i think Grackaroni should always give you LF instead of LL there, in my opinion he would have gotten way more town credit from passing you LF there. To me, he was afraid of me, of the cards, of any responsibility. At some point, something is going to happen, and he seemed to be saying "please just let it happen to someone else". If some president has to get 3F, I hope it will be me, just a lot easier to deal with for me. This i disagree with. When the election started, Grackaroni was originally going to pick Conversion / Rels. How is that more "avoiding responsibility" to pick you and then downvoting his own government? I mean because as i se it the only reason Grackaroni picked you was because i vouched for you, and when you were picked you immediately started acting like you didn't even want to get picked. I think Grackaroni's reaction also makes sense in that situation. Secondly, you yourself said this: Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. Do you think you yourself "look scummier" than these people? If not, then why Grackaroni needs to go through all this trouble to end up in a government where he can avoid responsibility when he could have just picked Conv/Rels -> and his government would be rejected most likely without him having to not backpedal? | ||
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On November 06 2018 00:14 happykrogan wrote: So I read through Conversion and came to the conclusion that I still don't think he looks very towny. He talks more but it's mostly about set-up and math. (where he did a complete 180 btw - but that may have come from him misunderstanding the rules) This are his only read posts: This read is not really a town tell, because it's a very obvious and non-dangerous read to make I don't even think that's true. He has reads so that is a rather lazy read from conversion to make. Also I guess he scumreads prplhz? Funny thing is that he was uncertain about him here: which is the thing he calls kita out for. So I vote no this government. You only vote no to this government if you think at least one of kitaman / Rels is townier than Conversion. | ||
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I don't see anything kitaman has done as something new and revealing, but just an easy, simple, lazy reads. | ||
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I heavily disagree with your lack of conclusion in the Grack + Conversion / Rels thingy because i think, if you actually thought that through from liberal pov you should have realized there is basically no way Grack can be mafia with Conversion, yet every time you talked about the matter you coupled up Conversion and Rels together and i think you are trying to use that as disguise so you don't actually have to make a conclusion that might hurt you later on. Regarding the above, this is your list after the discussion about it: Overall though, I think my trust ratings are better suited as tiers. tier 1: krogan/rayn (myself) tier 2: byj/prl/grack tier 3: conversion/rels If you really think Conversion and Rels are mafia then why the hell is Grack in the tier 2? Because it would simply be the most retarded thing i have ever seen if Grack wanted to originally nominate two of his scumbuddies, one of which is Rels who is considered scum by almost every single person in the game. If you actually think Conv/Rels are tier 3 then Grack should always be town for you, and just made two bad reads at the start of his presidential turn. Once again we go there; you don't make any hard conclusions when you actually could make those, if you don't think your tier list is accurate the why are you even making one? The above happened before Grack wanted to pass on his presidental turn and you apparently townread him for it. You have also taken "pot shots" on purplehaze yet it seems like none of his answers gets you anywhere regarding him, well i'd say that's the case with you on others aswell but that is possible you could do that as town since there isn't much from a lot of players in the thread (aka anyone who isn't me or krogan). Basically i find your reads very easy to make and based on them, if you believed in those reads, the lists you have made make absolutely no sense to me. You should know something is wrong when you have your reads and make them into a list, which should get you into reconsidering and / or trying to find more evidence. You do neither, and instead just post the list. | ||
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1) Grack thinks: "okay i put my scumbuddy Conversion up there" (at least i agreed with his townread on Conversion back then) 2) "Well this is a super terrible thing to do because Rels isn't gonna be nominated anyways so i have to WAIT FOR HAIL MARY AND CROSS FINGERS THAT SOMEONE COMES AND TELLS ME TO NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE" 3) rayn vouches for prplhz -> "THANK GOD I WOULD HAVE DONE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE FULLY KNOWING I DID ONE IF RAYN DIDNT DO THAT" really kita? really? that's not how mafia plays. | ||
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