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[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 5

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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 20:40 GMT
#756
On November 08 2018 05:36 kitaman27 wrote:


There is a 35.5% chance regardless of who is elected.

You can change your vote, but you really shouldn't. It's just going to pass to Rels afterwards who will get downvoted, then passed to rayn who has the same chance of getting FFF.

Pretty sure I won't. I think only you and krogan are having me scummier than you. Rayn doesn't want me but I don't think he scum read me more than you, he just doesn't like me this game. Maybe I'm wrong and he will correct but that's what it feels like.
Anyway, evn with rayn that's just 3 people.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 20:43 GMT
#757
Byj I don't understand your thought process. If you dislike kita, what's the difference between him having FFF and him having FFL ? If you think he's scum, he will pass FF to the chancellor in either scenario
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:15 GMT
#762
prp is Hitler. prp doesn't know who his buddies is, so you're talking about 1/2 scum, not 2/3.

I find your question dumb because that was almost exactly my question to you D2, and you crucified me for it. It depends on the situation. Maybe krogan voted YES to Conversion / rayn for the same reason I voted against a spy team in resistance when I was spy - to gain town cred. Or maybe he thought the team would pass no matter what.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:23 GMT
#763
On November 08 2018 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why do 2/3 scum vote yes to Conversion / rayn government, Rels?

Idk, from what the thread sentiment was, what can scum do there in case me and Conversion are town? Vote no for a shitty reason like kita or byj? Or what, call us fascist? For what reason? What alternative do they have? Why are you avoiding to actually calling one of us mafia for some shitty "gameplaywise reason" you cant actually answer?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:25 GMT
#764
In case someone doesn't get it, this is the original post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:37 GMT
#766
On November 08 2018 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does krogan vouch really hard for 2 fascist team D1? That's probably the dumbest thing ever to do especially if you have town credit, which he did.

Also team conv/rayn, while you can't really attack against it (well you could attack conversion maybe) -- if enabled and passes a liberal policy, is basically a death punch to scum, so i don't see what other options scum had other than try something to get the team rejected, or afk...

Maybe because he had the plan to pass the first policy to get both towncred ? At the end he chose you though. It don't know TBH, I'll check what was the sentiment of the thread in 30 minutes when I'm free. And I think they're a little desperate yeah -we got lucky with the 2 liberals D2. I think their plan now is to have kita discard a liberal right now, and have a FFF next to get back in the game. They have to get lucky basically
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:46 GMT
#767
oh yeah and I have some more messages to get to you.
On November 03 2018 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you avoiding to actually calling one of us mafia for some shitty "gameplaywise reason" you cant actually answer?

Follow your advice and stop saying shitty gameplaywise reason just to oppose me. Go read my excellent posts on krogan starting from here and fucking comment on them pretty please.
On November 04 2018 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now, if you somehow are fucking town, Conversion is president and is gonna pick either me or krogan, and you think one of us is mafia. So put your money where your mouth is and make a fucking read on which one of us is mafia based on actual analysis. We are the two people with most posts in the game, probably more than every other player combined so if you cannot make reads on us then you are also full of shit.

Play the game if you are town, if you are not, like you most likely arent, you can continue with your bs.

I did it. Time for you to do something useful.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:52 GMT
#770
On November 08 2018 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no getting lucky anymore. All i care about is me getting the investigation so i find either conf scum or conf town (which will allow 100% win) so i am gonna vote yes to kita and if this doesnt pass for some reason then i am gonna do my hardest that your team passes. If this passes i am trying my hardest to downvote your team.

Idk, i am sorry of you are town but i have figured out a strategy that wins the game more likely than any other strategy, and every other strategy has downsides. As i said you should have played earlier if you disagree for "i wanna play" because i lose interest in games i have "figured out" already. Sooo... there is that. I dont need to know anything but that conversion is town and the dude i investigate is either town/scum. Thats it.

OK I can see your point of view. It would be better if my team gets through though because a liberal right now basically seals the deal for scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:55 GMT
#772
meh your plan have more risk than just getting a liberal before you. Imagine you get "kita is scum" back or whatever. We're now in 3 liberal / 2 fascists, and you've eliminated a fascist from the game. OK. Now what ? You're in the same situation as before, but you lost 2 fascists.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:57 GMT
#773
If you get a conf town this might make more sense. Then we just pass until it's their turn.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:57 GMT
#774
even then, a FFF in their turn ruins the plan probably
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 22:59 GMT
#775
even without taking your plan's statistics into consideration. Let's assume it's a great plan, wihch I'm not so sure, but let's assume.
Even then, it's better to get me elected than kita, if you think kita is scummier than I. Cause I can get a liberal policy through, and then the game is won. And if I don't, your plan gets activated.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:04 GMT
#777
On November 08 2018 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does krogan vouch really hard for 2 fascist team D1? That's probably the dumbest thing ever to do especially if you have town credit, which he did.

Is it what you called vouching really hard ?
On October 30 2018 18:16 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
happykrogan who'd you pick rn if you made a choice?


Maybe Kitaman, because I thought this was towny.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?


It's not a strong townread, but It's the best thing I have so far.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.

I understand where you come from here, but I doubt they would try to communicate so obviously.

On October 30 2018 18:18 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 18:16 happykrogan wrote:
On October 30 2018 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
happykrogan who'd you pick rn if you made a choice?


Maybe Kitaman, because I thought this was towny.

On October 30 2018 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?


It's not a strong townread, but It's the best thing I have so far.

On October 30 2018 09:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.

I understand where you come from here, but I doubt they would try to communicate so obviously.


Or Maybe they want us to think that idk.
I start to doubt.
I hope that the choice will be easier at deadline.

On October 30 2018 18:58 happykrogan wrote:
Maybe it's not a good idea to choose someone, even with only a little suspicion on him, when we have this little information. Especially if my pick would be based on a very weak read.

On the other hand, if I choose him and he enacts a fascist policy, we could already have two likely scums in him and prplhz.
Do you think kitaman being scum would make prplhz scum?
Do you think prplhz being scum would make kitaman scum? (prplhz might try to throw shade on a townie)
Should I just choose someone else, even without a townread, hoping it makes it more probable to get a liberal?
Does this prplhz kitaman thing matter at all or is it just random stuff people say at early game? (I mean it sounds logical that scum would try to hide innuendos there)

It might seem like a little thing, but we don't have much else to discuss about so far.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:05 GMT
#778
On November 08 2018 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not dumb. I will investigate prplhz.

even if he's Hitler, the result will just be "fascist" right ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:07 GMT
#779
I think your plan is a good way to play the game from your position, where you're unsure of kita / me. But you still should push for who you think is townier to pass their teams.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:09 GMT
#781
TBF I think my team will be the one that passes, not kita's, because apart from what I think is the scum team, you're the only one voting YES atm.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:12 GMT
#783
On November 08 2018 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 08:07 Rels wrote:
I think your plan is a good way to play the game from your position, where you're unsure of kita / me. But you still should push for who you think is townier to pass their teams.

The problem is there might be some dumb townspeople who can ruin this shit, so i'd rather take my chances on having two chances on passing one team before me than one. If you can convince people to accept you+grack over kita+grack then i can vote no here. It's up to you.

I'm pretty sure everyone outside of kita / krogan likes me more than kita.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 07 2018 23:13 GMT
#785
finally it feels good to play this game
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 00:25 GMT
#787
On November 08 2018 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 08:13 Rels wrote:
finally it feels good to play this game


lol passing 3 straight liberal policies didn't feel good, but getting a shot at getting elected does? Okay

nope, having a real conversation feels a lot better than everyone scumreading me or telling me I'm bad
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 08 2018 04:55 GMT
#788
going to sleep. Grack, Conversion, byj, could you say that you will vote YES to a Grack / Rels team if kita / Grack doesn't pass ? So rayn is happy
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