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Maybe it's not a good idea to choose someone, even with only a little suspicion on him, when we have this little information. Especially if my pick would be based on a very weak read.
On the other hand, if I choose him and he enacts a fascist policy, we could already have two likely scums in him and prplhz.
Do you think kitaman being scum would make prplhz scum?
Do you think prplhz being scum would make kitaman scum? (prplhz might try to throw shade on a townie)
Should I just choose someone else, even without a townread, hoping it makes it more probable to get a liberal?
Does this prplhz kitaman thing matter at all or is it just random stuff people say at early game? (I mean it sounds logical that scum would try to hide innuendos there)
It might seem like a little thing, but we don't have much else to discuss about so far.
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On October 30 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:No i dont think its a scum-scum interaction unless kitaman is hitler and prplhz is "claiming mafia" to him but i think it is extremely unlike because it is just plain out a stupid thing to do, as you'd want to do it in a way that noone else catches it and look what happened. 
Yeah, that's what I thought as I first read it, but then I got a little paranoid. Also there isn't much else to talk about and I need more talk to make a good decision.
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Hitler + normal fascist was what I thought about. I didn't even consider 2 normal fascists.
But independent of that, prplhz also appeared at least kind of odd to me. I think his question combined with the explanaition was weird and seems unnatural.
That's the main reason I started to wonder if Kitaman was a good choice.
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On October 30 2018 20:10 happykrogan wrote:
That's the main reason I started to wonder if Kitaman was a good choice.
I started to wonder if he might not be a good choice and before I thought he might be. My english might have been misleading there.
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atm I have slight town reads on kita, rayn and maybe Grack.
I need rayn to explain why kita's resistance proposal is flawed though.
Yes I thought about the kita being hitler because prplhz thing, but I never was too convinced in it myself - I mainly kept talking about it wanting to initiate conversation.
I might still make him chancellor candidate.
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On October 31 2018 01:38 Conversion wrote:
Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni
why?
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On October 31 2018 01:41 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2018 01:38 Conversion wrote:
Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni why?
lol I'm dumb
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But as you were online and obviously reading, how about some serious posts?
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On October 31 2018 00:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Let me just say it this way:
If I was Hitler and I saw someone say "Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni" I would assume that guy was a fascist.
Maybe I'm just way overthinking it but look:
what if grack is in fact Hitler and sets this up, so the fascists can say exactly that and it appears as they made a joke.
On October 31 2018 01:38 Conversion wrote:
Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni
he does it and it looks like a joke
On October 31 2018 01:54 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2018 01:38 Conversion wrote:
Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni 
and he shows that he understood.
What do you think? Still too obvious?
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Hm Maybe I'm just salty that I didn't got that joke at first and looked dumb.
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On October 31 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
I don't even know who you're planning to vote for chancellor
probably still kita. Or rayn after he answers.
I made a post of townreads, which are my cadidates for chancellor candidate.
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On October 31 2018 02:43 byj wrote:Screw my position in the rotation list =\ Show nested quote +On October 31 2018 02:11 happykrogan wrote:On October 31 2018 00:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Let me just say it this way:
If I was Hitler and I saw someone say "Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni" I would assume that guy was a fascist. Maybe I'm just way overthinking it but look: what if grack is in fact Hitler and sets this up, so the fascists can say exactly that and it appears as they made a joke.
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Would that be any reliable though, anybody could say it, and Hitler would have no way to find out he's wrong? Also is letting Hitler know who you are that important? I feel like Hitler wouldn't want to take podshots at people anyway, so people would vote for him later on [/QUOTE]
Maybe, but how big is the chance that a random liberal just makes this joke? I guess he could be sure after he sees how everyone votes. Voting is also probably the reason they want hitler to know.
I just keep an eye out if there will be more hints leading to conversion/grack in the future.
Also grack: If you're actually hitler, feel free to be unsure about conversion.
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On October 31 2018 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2018 03:30 kitaman27 wrote:On October 31 2018 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The main point is that sooner or later some goverment is going to draw 3F so like.... "unsuccesful" government doesnt always equal suspicious. Nor does succesful government equal townies since scum in some cases have incentive to elect liberal policies. Eh if players are electing liberal policies, I'm fine taking that risk as long as they keep producing good results and don't look sketchy otherwise. I think I see what you're saying with the 3F stuff, but that seems like something we can evaluate when it comes up. Either way, it looks like we're forced to elect separate people based on the rules of the 8 player setup. Technically we can swap with 4 players, but like... there is also hitler. You know scum win if hitler is elected as chancellor after i dont remember how many fascist policies. Do you get what that means? Or what may happen?
I'll probably make you chancellor for that. Don't think that comes from scum.
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I decided to go with rayn. His concern seems like a plausible threat and I don't think scum would reveal that to the thread.
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Will I be able to vote for myself?
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Oh I can. Somehow overlooked it earlier.
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On October 31 2018 06:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2018 06:02 happykrogan wrote:
I decided to go with rayn. His concern seems like a plausible threat and I don't think scum would reveal that to the thread. I don't know if you've ever played with rayn, but that is not something I would townread him for.
I don't think I did but please explain. I probably won't back off though, as I like his recent posts.
Why do you think he would reveal a threat for a town win as scum? That would only hurt the fascists imo.
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imo it could still likely be that it was a communication attempt, as it was tarned as a joke. Conversion did nothing towny so far but he was clearly reading the thread. Otherwise he couldn't make the "joke".
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On October 31 2018 08:43 prplhz wrote:
@happykrogran What do you think about Rels' idea of rejecting governments to buy time for making reads?
I think we should just vote governments that will probably enact a liberal policy if they are able to do it.
I don't think it makes sense to reject a governent you have townreads on, just because you want more time for reads.
Als if you pass on a towny government, who knows if you get a better one until the election tracker reaches 3, which would probably enact a fascist policy.
If you don't have a townread on the proposed government, then sure: go ahead and reject it, maybe you'll have time to make reads on the next one, but if you think they are probably liberal it doesn't make sense to reject it, just to have more time.
As the first presidential candidate I am obviously biased, because I know we'd get a liberal president if we vote yes now.
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