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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:26 GMT
#972
"Vote JAAAA! on Rels' government."

obvs
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:29 GMT
#974
yes. how does it make me scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:32 GMT
#976
I voted FOR you? :D
How can you even say i have a preference on one over another??? Like ugh, i have literally said i dont have a preference, so what in my behavior has been Rels-heavy or whatever you wanna call it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:52 GMT
#978
On November 08 2018 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2018 20:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 08 2018 20:17 happykrogan wrote:
To your treating players differently
scum knows each other: you asked the question first while byj just made one random post about it

Rels this is 100% correct. He wasnt necessarily doing what you suggested, because this makes perfect sense and is even way more likely than what you said.

Here is what i have a hard time believing Rels.

If you have a narrative (which in itself isnt necessarily scummy) that treating players differently when they had the same thought (which isnt even what happened there -- but thats another thing), then regarding the prplhz chancellor election, why is it a scumtell for krpgan when what he did was all +1'ing me? Like literally, i started questioning prplhz for his jesitative stance, krogan made almoat the same posts i did, i eventually decided to vote yes, krogan followed me.

Why is this different? It doesnt matter that you have a townread on me from different things, but you know or think a townie -- aka me -- did that, krogan should never get "scum credit" from that if you actually believe in what you say about how krogan treated you/byj.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:54 GMT
#979
It does not help you said you have seen question adressed to you and you would answer them after... And the question i posed was the one you never cared about...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:55 GMT
#980
On November 09 2018 02:52 Rels wrote:
I skimmed the last few pages, saw a few posts directed at me. I have a lot of work today so I absolutely can't take time to answer stuff right now, that will have to wait until I'm home in 6 hours.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 18:57 GMT
#981
I think you should vote yes regardless of what you think of Rels' alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:14 GMT
#993
oO
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:15 GMT
#994
Why is rels town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:16 GMT
#995
or conv or happy i dont give a fuck justy that you cant say "i diddnt men this guy".

Why is any of rels, converison, grackaroni town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 10 2018 21:17 GMT
#996
Make a read please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 12:25 GMT
#1010
lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 13:12 GMT
#1012
On November 11 2018 04:04 Rels wrote:
rayn why didn't you want Grack / Conversion on D2 if that's the team you liked better than Grack / prp ? It didn't stop Conversion to be president on the next turn and elect Conversion / rayn, at least I don't think so

Because i didn't think Grackaroni + Conversion would have a chance to get elected and prplhz looked townie then. I don't know why you are asking about stuff that is very clearly written in my filter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 13:32 GMT
#1014
I know the answer. Because i am not scum but kitaman is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 14:46 GMT
#1016
You want more information when there is a chance to pick other town person over the next one from you. In a same way i adviced krogan to not pick the person next to him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 14:54 GMT
#1019
The point you are missing is that even if a fascist policy is enacted it is not the end of the world, often times with a good scum team if you just auto based on what happened the first or second time you simply just lose because you arent making reads instead of just autoing. I think it is quite possible prplhz showed face when he suddenly got elected and kitaman definitely showed face last mission and byj voted yes to kita's team when he had a scumread on kita. I dont care what he says now because it never ever says in his filter he reads kita as town -- actually it says quite the opposite.

Idk, do you think i am scum? It's kinda ridiculous if you do since there is no way in hell town leads this game 4-0 if i am scum since i have heavily contributed to every single government so far (and while i didn't on yours and kitas, i could have simply just most likely get both rejected and just lie that i got 3F on my turn or take 1v1 against well.. basically every player in the game).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 14:55 GMT
#1020
Not to even mention i would have definitely enacted scum policy when it was me and conversion. Every single time as scum i don't let town lead 3-0.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 11 2018 15:05 GMT
#1023
It's just so ridiculous that you even entertain it, although it doesnt really matter because there is no way we can lost this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2018 06:58 GMT
#1028
There is a 60% chance that me+conversion draw the last liberal (that is assuming noone has lied). Probably the best play is to no elect me, elect byj/prplhz + i dont care who, then pass the turn until grackaroni who will pick Rels, since they have over 75% with a full deck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 12 2018 13:03 GMT
#1030
Here are possibilities for what i think are the best plays:
1) we elect me and Conversion; 60% to get liberal right away. Aside from the fact i obviously still trust myself over anyone else i don't think this is the best play because 40% chance of failing is too much and if that happens it will give the investigation to someone else than Grackaroni and i do not want that,
2) We pass my team and elect one of prplhz' / byj's team with someone - basically whoever - as chancellor. I see this having 0% chance of enacting a liberal policy but i don't care because then we can pass teams until we will have Grackaroni + Rels. They will also have the whole deck and for that, to get even one liberal card the probability is ~75%.
3) We pass three teams in a row. Then we pass again until it's Grackaroni's turn. The probability of this either enacting liberal from the deck, or with Grackaroni, is 80%. The thing is Grackaroni needs to pick a liberal chancellor.
4) We pass three teams in a row, then we pass another three teams in a row. Then we wait for my turn and we will have a 100% chance of passing a liberal policy, if i pick a liberal chancellor (that is not Rels/Grackaroni). I understand people probably don't want to do this but that actually would be a 100% win right here lol.

This all is assuming people are not lying about what they got as president. My preference obviously is (4) but i am okay with (3) or (2) also. Can the townies in this game give their opinion on what do we do?
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