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I meant of the ones who didn't post yet. | ||
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I think kaley is town. Btw I never was able to like rap/hip-hop. Hard for me to explain this read, mostly gut and that he's going after rayn of all people. Not a big fan of a Qatols version as a summary is the best that anyone could have delivered on early game banter and I see the opportunity for mafia here to jump on a kaley lynch after rayn (if town) said he would p-lynch for the rap. I'll ultimately refrain from scumreading Qatol here as pushing arguments early here is a good thing for town and not necessary for mafia, but I don't agree with them. | ||
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Conversely I see it more likely that a mafia goes after kaley here when a town rayn already hinted that he would lynch for rping. | ||
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On September 08 2018 03:26 KelsierSC wrote: Do you think Kaley is making a genuine push on rayn? For that I'd have had to read the entirety of the post. | ||
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On September 08 2018 03:36 KelsierSC wrote: ... So you town read her for making a "push" on someone who is hard to lynch but you don't even know if it's a real push. What makes you think it's a fake push? | ||
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I see no reason to think it should be fake? Rayn threatened to lynch her without really even trying to read into the post so that's a reason to vote off rayn from kaleys perspective. | ||
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On September 08 2018 04:00 KelsierSC wrote: I guess what i'm dancing around is that I don't believe your read is genuine and you just threw out a bs town read to look town. Seems like something you might think genuinely. But I wasn't lying and it wasn't made up. It was just one of the impressions I wanted to put out there. | ||
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On September 08 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then can you elaborate on how this: ...makes any sense because any single person who has played with me here or where ever knows that this is not a reason why i am mafia or town (aka worth even pushing -- because you would also know if i am mafiam a "reaction push" literally does nothing). What does it have to do with your alignment? | ||
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That said, I was expecting more fleshed out "raps" afterwards or at least that kaley would start posting normally, and the latest one isn't very informative as Qatol points out above. So I don't see a reason to still mantain that read. I'll be waiting for more content before scumreading anyone however. | ||
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Yea it isn't a smurf after reading through the profile. And it sure as hell isn't a she. I was sure it was a new acc just for this game, meh. I was wrong. But the rapping thing isn't something exclusive to this game. It's just his hobby. I don't want to vote him though. There's too many shitty votes on kaley floating about, some policy like rayn, some for weird analysis of the rap like from Qatol. And you for no reason. | ||
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I think we should lynch RoL, cause RoL always flips mafia. ##Vote RoL | ||
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On September 09 2018 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Very easy argument to make since he flipped town, and idgaf how vary you will be of me for the rest of the game because if you are not saying what i was just above then i disagree with you. After a quick reread, to me it looks like the point where your "lynch all rp crap" turned into a scumread is when you attacked me for my crappy townread. But you being the originator of the push and being rayn on top of it, I don't think that you're the most likely to be mafia out of the bunch who voted kaley. I'm also not of the opinion that there has to be mafia among those who voted kaley (although it would be easy to sneak a vote in). Much easier to just not do anything at all or vote off wagon considering the amount of inactives. That said to tell you that my previous post doesn't allude to you but rather to the guys who flocked around the kaley wagon. And overall, I'm going to be very careful about the reads I want to have until we get more posts in esp. from the remaining players. To my knowledge mafia might not have made a single post. | ||
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Before I start getting back to posting about people in particular and who I think is mafia and not: I got a roleblock notification. | ||
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Either way, as town you usually have the drive to put out at least a minimum of thoughts when you say you would. So for me, you wander right into scum pile with the little I have read and think you should be today's lynch. ##Vote Damdred | ||
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It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF. Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance. But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him). | ||
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On September 09 2018 04:27 Rels wrote: During those 30 minutes I read the game. Sergio's angryness makes no sense as scum in my opinion. Kaley has chosen to play in a way that makes her very hard to read. Fair enough. But when pushed for it, she doubled down and did it more strongly. I can see this strategy coming more from scum (kinda like "they wouldn't believe scum would continue roleplaying in my position"). Could also come from stubborn town but for now she's the more likely to flip scum. The bolded is wifom. It's something you can't really disagree with and superficially seems like a good reason, but where do you draw the line in what kaley was thinking? Do I try to appease the townies or do I look like I don't give a damn? Both seem like viable strategies to me as long as you wrap them up in the right way. | ||
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MZ reconsider for a moment. What are the odds that Rels is lazy townie vs scum? What are the odds that Damdred is lazy townie? As townie at least you should have a partial interest into solving the game, so why does Rels at least show a bit of that (even though his arguments leave to wish for) contrary to Damdred while being more likely mafia in your eyes? One does a bit of stuff that looks like it can come from mafia but the other does something (pretend to be active and promise more activity) and then does nothing which is more likely to be mafia behaviour in my opinion. And Qatol my vote on RoL was a throwaway vote cause I didn't feel like voting kaley and pushing you wouldn't have felt right considering you were being an active player and also I wasn't feeling confident about you being mafia beyond the little I had expressed. I was unwilling to flesh out a scumread on you up until this day. Why RoL out of everyone? Pretty much for what prplhz said about him. | ||
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