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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 20:46 GMT
#442
Have you even read anything i have written in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 20:51 GMT
#444
I have a townread on Vivax because claiming a roleblock on D2 most likely makes him town, unless mafia is 3/3 someone who normally doesn't play here, which includes you, and that also makes Vivax town (if you are mafia).

People here tend to roleblock either a blue read, or way more likely the person who they shoot (aka Koshi N1 which we know was not roleblocked). The games here tend to have at least 2 town blues, especially newbie games, so newbies get a hold of roles and possible fake or counter-claim situations aswell.

Sure it is possible mafia does not have a roleblocker at all, or that the roleblock went on Holyflare, but i don't find that likely based on above. I also know Koshi flipped town and i give merit on his read on Vivax.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 20:52 GMT
#445
On September 13 2018 05:49 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i literally came here with the time i had, saw that there was no interest in my preferred lynch (Kelsier), said i didn't want to lynch the other two of the three wagons (which i had already said even before they were actual wagons), and decided to vote for a the last possible option.

Like it's already fucking bullshit how the votes have gone all game because in a game with 3 mafia (even if RoL is mafia in this game) you are never ever gonna lynch mafia with 3 votes unless mafia is just garbage, let alone with 2 votes. Leaving my vote on Kelsier was not an option. Because i want to even have a chance of lynching mafia and in my opinion voting for Damdred was the best chance out of those three.

This is a point I was hoping you would make.

However, I'd still like to hear why you thought damdred was the best choice or why vivax is so town to you. Judging from posts other people have been making, you're supposed to be the best scumhunter left. On top of that, your posts have been relatively reasoned, so I'm wondering why you jumped onto a train with such a weak case.

I thought Vivax is town and i thought you are town so what choice do i have? I am not gonna lie, i didn't think Damdred was necessarily mafia but that was the best option i had at the time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 20:54 GMT
#446
Like if mafia has a roleblocker there is 0% chance mafia is not using their roleblock unless the mafia is in you, Serge, RoL and Meapak, literally 0% chance.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:05 GMT
#451
I am going to tell you a secret. Mafia never writes this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

can you understand why?

Damdred over Rels simply because there were votes on Damdred and no votes on Rels. I think Rels' "blue hunt case" is another ridiculous one because why would anyone as mafia ever kill someone, then say the kill was because of them being obvious blue, and then openly admit they figured out they are blue. Like yeah.... that's not how mafia operates.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:07 GMT
#454
On September 13 2018 06:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Rayn
Scum: kelsier
Town: Sergio Qatol vivax? Prplhz

I have you as town and rels as mafia.
idk what qatol is rn because i think this very simple argument has been blown out of proportion by him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:09 GMT
#455
On September 13 2018 06:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to tell you a secret. Mafia never writes this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

can you understand why?

Damdred over Rels simply because there were votes on Damdred and no votes on Rels. I think Rels' "blue hunt case" is another ridiculous one because why would anyone as mafia ever kill someone, then say the kill was because of them being obvious blue, and then openly admit they figured out they are blue. Like yeah.... that's not how mafia operates.

Hmmm

Damdred had 1 vote and Rels had 1 vote

While i did not know you were voting for Rels (i literally didn't have time on phone) that's not true.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:13 GMT
#457
yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:17 GMT
#458
[QUOTE]On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.
[/QUOTE
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:18 GMT
#459
You of all people should realise why this is never a mafia post....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:27 GMT
#463
On September 13 2018 06:24 Qatol wrote:
Okay you posted again, pointing out a specific statement from Vivax.
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to tell you a secret. Mafia never writes this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

can you understand why?

Please explain it to me. I tried to work it out, but my evaluation of the statement falls apart at the point where Vivax talks about a "Qatol made decision," considering the mafia didn't make a decision about HF, other than maybe roleblocking him.

Unless you are pointing out that the incorrect logic is a reason to trust Vivax?

You think mafia!Vivax comes here on D2 and tells "holyflare night kill points towards Qatol" when, if he is mafia, he clearly knows that's not what happened? Like he makes an utterly "bullshit case" when he knows every single person in the game knows is bullshit if they have just looked at the day post....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:30 GMT
#465
Incorrect logic does not make anyone mafia per se, but like... If Vivax is mafia he HAS TO KNOW what really happened during the night because when you are mafia night is your time, you kill people at night. Do you remember a time when you didn't know who you nightkilled when posting the next day as mafia?

Sure you can argue "he is faking" but you can also argue "kitaman made as all town and this is jsut a bastard game" and i think that's almost evenly likely.....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:36 GMT
#468
On September 13 2018 06:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 13 2018 06:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On September 13 2018 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to tell you a secret. Mafia never writes this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

can you understand why?

Damdred over Rels simply because there were votes on Damdred and no votes on Rels. I think Rels' "blue hunt case" is another ridiculous one because why would anyone as mafia ever kill someone, then say the kill was because of them being obvious blue, and then openly admit they figured out they are blue. Like yeah.... that's not how mafia operates.

Hmmm

Damdred had 1 vote and Rels had 1 vote

While i did not know you were voting for Rels (i literally didn't have time on phone) that's not true.

I mean it was in the voting thread, surely you would have been able to read the thread on your phone before you voted.
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 00:45 Vivax wrote:
##Vote Damdred

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 02:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Rels

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Damdred


Vivax was the first vote on damdred, I voted for rels 2 hours later, you were the second vote on damdred almost 5 hours after I had voted.

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On September 12 2018 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can vote for damdred, or rels. I wont be voting for vivax or qatol. Unless kelsier is happening, which doesnt seem likely rn. I hate to play when i dont have enough time.

I was the only reason rels was brought up at this point so clearly you had seen my analysis and it kinda calls into question why you'd say something like
Show nested quote +
While i did not know you were voting for Rels


The timestamps are not lining up for your story, and actually going back through your filter to that time again reminded me of this post right here
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2018 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels had the dumb "rayn not interacting with me" post which doesnt make any sense since every read he made was exactly what my reads were at the time -- so why should i interact woth him when he is voting for who i want to lynch and he 100% agrees with my reads?


I didn't like rels for that post but now I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't an attempt to distance himself from you if you two are scum together. The fact is, your timeline doesn't line up. You were a crucial vote on damdred, and now it seems like you're lying about why you picked damdred over rels.

first of all purplehaze has voted for Damdred right fucking before my vote on him, so if you wanna discuss someone being mafia because they missed a vote in the voting thread, you can also call yourself scum.

Yeah, i really missed your vote on Rels, Rels was discussed of being mafia by some people and that's why i thought he was a "viable candidate". I really thought he had no votes (and even if i knew he had one why the fuck would i vote for him over Damdred who had two)?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:39 GMT
#469
I ma sorry i missed your vote 4 hours before mine in a hurry.
You however missed this:
[image loading]
????????????????????

for real?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:41 GMT
#471
I mean:
I mean it was in the voting thread, surely you would have been able to read the thread before you posted that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:44 GMT
#474
says the guy who missed purplehaze's vote directly above mine.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:47 GMT
#475
fun fact, i do not read the voting thread. i go there to vote.
i have absolutely no reason to even lie about this if i was mafia, because it is true.
i have always criticised voting threads because they are useless, they are only to help the host and make it harder for players (when people vote in thread and not in voting thread or vice versa).

so yeah, i do not read the voting thread. you can think i am mafia for that, idgaf.
you seem to be reading the voting thread so why did you miss the vote directly above mine, and even made a case on me based on that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:49 GMT
#478
whatever i dont even think you are mafia because this is too dumb to be scum....
i will get back to you qatol when i get out of my annoyance. which means a cigarette.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:50 GMT
#479
On September 13 2018 06:47 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Incorrect logic does not make anyone mafia per se, but like... If Vivax is mafia he HAS TO KNOW what really happened during the night because when you are mafia night is your time, you kill people at night. Do you remember a time when you didn't know who you nightkilled when posting the next day as mafia?

Sure you can argue "he is faking" but you can also argue "kitaman made as all town and this is jsut a bastard game" and i think that's almost evenly likely.....

I've only been mafia once, and we had a prominent team member (L) who didn't know the night kills; this was before quicktopics were used. That being said, I understand your point. I just wish you had made it earlier. I will back off of Vivax for now.

I didn't read that post, or at least that part, until N2. So you should discount that for my D2 read on Vivax.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2018 21:56 GMT
#483
I must be really good at being engaged on this then since i have worked 16 hrs days this week with basically no chance to play during work.
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