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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:03 GMT
#498
On September 13 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
#vote KelsierSC

This is absolutely terrible lmao

Also I have been roleblocked.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:07 GMT
#501
Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:15 GMT
#505
On September 13 2018 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 08:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible.

very good now explain why my vote is terrible?

It's very simple. This is lylo. If you are town then you'd be wanting to lynch the person who has the highest probability of being scum. You clearly aren't all that sold on Kels day 2 since you voted damdred at the end of the day. You already have said you think rels is scum who was, from what you've said, a coin flip in your mind with damdred. Why at lylo would you now swing back to kels who you didn't even stick with him D2? If the only thing keeping you from voting rels yesterday was a lack of votes, a townie would be jumping for joy that their second highest scum read was getting attention. Instead you're off with the distract game with Kels.

Look if by some miracle you are town, just vote Rels so we don't lose today.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:23 GMT
#509
On September 13 2018 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you cant fucking understand anything.

No I can understand scum motivated play very well. And your frustration with me is making me pretty confident I've got at least 2/3 scum nailed down. I'm not even trying to get you lynched yet and you're going bonkers. Again, you haven't approached any of the last 5/10 pages of conversation with a town oriented mindset. Townies vote for their reads, scum vote for the sake of lynches. Townies understand lylo and the need to lynch highest probability of scum, scum are looking for one last mislynch.

On September 13 2018 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or you are mafia. idgaf.
But i can make you not win regardless.


I think we're done here lol, the rest of the players can read the thread.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:31 GMT
#513
On September 13 2018 08:26 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 08:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible.

What "most reasonable points" against me? This is the type of post that gets everyone confused later (and mirrors the posts made about HF and Koshi, which lack real substance). Please point to a specific post if you're going to say this. Otherwise, it just turns into the same game of misguided telephone I've spent most of the game trying to defuse. Are you talking about post 333?

As far as your Rels read goes, as I stated before, I'm inclined to agree.

Ah yes, this one right here:
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Qatol so far feels like he's furthering scum agenda and both NKs point heavily towards him. Koshi loved me for pointing out that I didn't like the way he was going after kaley, and HF also was rather sure he was mafia. Both died, and Qatols followup is to try and get a lynch on me going regardless. From a strategic perspective, both NKs are bad for me, he doesn't take that into account.

It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.

Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance.

But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him).

I'm nowhere near sold on you being scum but this post did have more substance than most of the other people I've seen call you scum. To be honest your defensiveness over me even bringing it up does kinda give me pause since I've been very clearly about who I want dead over the next two days but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Right now focus needs to be on rels/rayn.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:43 GMT
#518
On September 13 2018 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
as per your case, now tell me ffs, because everything i do is just designed to make me look worse.

Do you even know why people do the things they do as mafia? Or are you just spouting random fucking shit? Like why the fuck do i do what i did and then kill Vivax who doesnt even think i am mafia, do you think that increases my winning chances? Like wtf?

My dude, a) this is WIFOM b) I am pretty confident you're mafia at this point, I'm obviously not going to be able to get you to admit that in thread. On the offchance you're town, vote rels so that we can have another day of play.

And I'm sorry if anything I said came off as personal, I'm really not trying to piss people off, just calling things as I see it. I'll go ahead and step away from the thread to let other people look things over and give some opinions.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:46 GMT
#521
On September 13 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whatever you are not getting majority on rels unless it is mafia, so take that into account, 100% truth.

There are still 8 people left my dude...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 12 2018 23:58 GMT
#527
On September 13 2018 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).

Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure...

For people who aren't rayn, here's the difference.

D2, there was almost no consolidation, if rayn had felt this strongly Kelsier was scum, a townie could have put in the effort to try and make a Kelsier lynch happen, the stakes were also lower as it was not lylo, and there was less information to make a decision. Instead rayn switched to damdred (thus indicating he thinks damdred is scummier) but also names rels as someone he'd vote for (thus suggesting rels is scummier as well).

D3, we're at lylo, we already know rayn thinks rels is as scummy as damdred (who he voted for over kelsier) but instead of voting for rels (who he indicated he would have voted for if others wanted to) he goes back to kelsier. The issue is the prioritization is wrong for a townie. He already indicated D2 he thought rels was scummier than Kelsier during the whole damdred lynch. Now that there are several people who also want to lynch rels, a townie would be happy to see their read is finally getting pushed. Instead we have this quasi meltdown over the kelsier vote which ends up sounding like cornered mafia.

The logic between D2 and D3 does not add up.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 13 2018 00:01 GMT
#528
Doing a terrible job of stepping away from the thread, my bad, I'm gonna go get some beer.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 14 2018 13:43 GMT
#556
On September 13 2018 23:42 prplhz wrote:
It would just be easier if KelsierSC is scum than if Qatol is scum.

I don't understand why Kelsier is doing the whole "whatever I give up" thing." I have never read that play as frustrated town. Basically his entire case on Qatol is based around the NKs which is honestly just speculation. I mean Vivax was most likely killed since he was essentially confirmed town. Vivax hadn't even pushed Qatol or been active in the two irl days prior to getting killed so I have a hard time believing this speculation that he was killed bc he was onto something big. Like read Vivax's filter, he does not come off as someone who is gunning to kill Qatol. If we're gonna speculate on the NKs I find it a much higher chance it was bc he was quasi confirmed due to the RB claim. I don't think Kelsier is scum bc it would be an odd play for rayn to be bussing him this hard at lylo but I just don't find the Qatol case convincing for a lylo lynch.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 15 2018 05:01 GMT
#815
huh

Well my bad rayn, guess I should have decided to go full sheep on vivax.

I guess the team really was Kels/Qatol and then prplhz or RoL. No bad feelings Rayn.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 15 2018 05:01 GMT
#816
Worst part of getting roleblocked is it makes me think I'm on the right track lol
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 16 2018 01:13 GMT
#824
fuck me man

I should have lynched rayn for the fit he pulled in the thread.

Actually why did you that rayn? You could have quietly lynched rels with me and still won. Oh well, hurts to have 2/3 and just be off by the order you went in.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 16 2018 01:15 GMT
#825
Also it sucked having RoL as scum since I could never get a read on him and hated lynching into unknowns at lylo.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 16 2018 01:32 GMT
#826
Parting shots:

Thanks for hosting Kita, you my boy even 3 years later. I wish I had been able to be more active but I'm not sure that would have changed anything since I felt like I was either talking to Qatol or Rayn for most of the game. Guess having IRL jobs makes mafia a lot harder than it was in high school and college lol. It kinda sucks having this be my last game but idk if I'll ever be able to /in another game in good faith that I can provide good activity.

Wp Rayn, I should have pushed for your scummy ass lolol.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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