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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Those actions should never be a townread for anyone. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 08 2018 21:30 Holyflare wrote: I am town though. I don't think Kaley is mafia purely because they are just fighting back at Rayn being a dick. Sergio's posts look scummy because they are finding reasons out of nothing. Irrationally angry at me making one post that said nothing and laying out all the "options" seem feigned. Will try and post more. I do not know what is this if it is not a townread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not know what is this if it is not a townread. It's not a scum read. I don't put weight into what you say that people that get irate at you for policy-ing them are mafia, that's all. It's not a town read and not a scum read. If I had to make a gut call in that specific situation I would favour someone doing that to be town but I never did that in this game and it's irrelevant to what I'm actually saying about Qatol. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record i didn't start being a dick, so you also got that all wrong too. You weren't really, no. I think that post was just piggy backing off someone else's comment though. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 08 2018 04:31 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh I can't understand it. There isn't even a reason given for why she voted rayn so how can you take this push to be genuine. On September 08 2018 04:34 KelsierSC wrote: alternatively kaley could be a smurf town just dicking around voting you. gut vivax has stated he believes the push is genuine so that doesn't make his reasoning sound either. Don't get these two posts next to each other. Bit weird playing devil's advocate for no reason when you first state the posts aren't good. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:25 Holyflare wrote: You weren't really, no. I think that post was just piggy backing off someone else's comment though. Actually, no, it wasn't. I thought you were being sexist and so the point still stands. Comments were dick-ish. Kaley was also dick-ish though. | ||
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Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
You are saying this: I don't think Kaley is mafia purely because they are just fighting back at Rayn being a dick When you made this comment i can only assume it is a townread unless: 1) Someone had called Kaley mafia because of him being a dick to me (which imo never happened) 2) Since the above never happened, you think this is a reason for Kaley to be town (it outweighs the reasons for him being mafia). Since you now claim this is not a case, why did you decide to defend your null read based on an argument noone ever made, and you yourself don't think makes him town? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I don't know why people are trying to paint my vote as a policy lynch because it is quite clear that's not what happened, i even made multiple posts explaining why i scumread him. Even before my vote. | ||
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Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:51 Vivax wrote: Kaley wasn't the worst of lynches considering that his raps would have remained his only contributions for the rest of the game. But I'm wary of anyone who tried to argue that the above wasn't the only reason. I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Very easy argument to make since he flipped town, and idgaf how vary you will be of me for the rest of the game because if you are not saying what i was just above then i disagree with you. | ||
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Vivax
22145 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Very easy argument to make since he flipped town, and idgaf how vary you will be of me for the rest of the game because if you are not saying what i was just above then i disagree with you. After a quick reread, to me it looks like the point where your "lynch all rp crap" turned into a scumread is when you attacked me for my crappy townread. But you being the originator of the push and being rayn on top of it, I don't think that you're the most likely to be mafia out of the bunch who voted kaley. I'm also not of the opinion that there has to be mafia among those who voted kaley (although it would be easy to sneak a vote in). Much easier to just not do anything at all or vote off wagon considering the amount of inactives. That said to tell you that my previous post doesn't allude to you but rather to the guys who flocked around the kaley wagon. And overall, I'm going to be very careful about the reads I want to have until we get more posts in esp. from the remaining players. To my knowledge mafia might not have made a single post. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
What i am saying is yes, i would prolly try to policy lynch him either way but in the end a policy is NOT why i voted for him, so i think you are being a bit unreasonable here. As i think i was being quite clear why i actually scumread him, like: On September 08 2018 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: People who make "funny posts" too often get a pass just because they make funny posts. But like Qatol pointed out, what did Kaley actually say? On September 08 2018 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well she just went for "i do anti-town things and when i am called out those people are the ones i call scum" -strategy. lol Ftr she still hasnt said anything, except for the above.  On September 08 2018 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I assume there is something there, like idk.. explain it to me because your rhymes are fucking shit and also not plaing mafia. yes? where? I love giving the green red shitheads a hard time if you wanna go into politics but here the lezzy can tell me what is my baseless argument? yes <3 in case you are not reading properly this is me pointing out that all kaley did in his "scumread" on me was using fancy words that are "mafia-esque" like strawman, self-made meta, baseless arguments, which dont mean anything unless you put a body behind the accusation, which, once again he never did. the problem for me is noone in the game aside from me andf Qatol managed to give any sort of real read on Kaley, basically everyone just said "he can be whatever" which is really dumb especially when he flipped town, since i have to now figure out why you, HF, Kelsier, Koshi, Rels and Serge (in a way) decided to do what they did. well not Koshi because i think there is no way he is mafia, but tbh i am not sure at all on any of the others. If Qatol is mafia his Kaley i read i think is not why he is mafia, Kaley gave an easy out for any scummer active to act like they did D1, and if i am completely honest almost all of you i pointed out look worse than Qatol does in terms on reading Kaley. That being said i am interested in what Qatol has to say regarding what HF posted. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 09 2018 19:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi has your stance on Vivax changed after whole D1? Kill HF | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 09 2018 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree i was, i am not saying i wasn't. But i also know what i read and i didn't start it. But that's not my point and it is irrelevant. What is relevant is this: You are saying this: When you made this comment i can only assume it is a townread unless: 1) Someone had called Kaley mafia because of him being a dick to me (which imo never happened) 2) Since the above never happened, you think this is a reason for Kaley to be town (it outweighs the reasons for him being mafia). Since you now claim this is not a case, why did you decide to defend your null read based on an argument noone ever made, and you yourself don't think makes him town? About three people called Kaley mafia because they were posting in rhymes and being specifically antagonistic towards you. It's the entire basis for Qatol's scum read even. Just because I don't agree with you or other people that this makes Kaley mafia does not also infer I think Kaley is town nor is it a town read. It's a read that means I don't think that specific point makes that specific person mafia. I don't know why you are trying so hard to put words in my mouth that I never quite said but you should stop. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On September 09 2018 23:22 Holyflare wrote: About three people called Kaley mafia because they were posting in rhymes and being specifically antagonistic towards you. It's the entire basis for Qatol's scum read even. Just because I don't agree with you or other people that this makes Kaley mafia does not also infer I think Kaley is town nor is it a town read. It's a read that means I don't think that specific point makes that specific person mafia. I don't know why you are trying so hard to put words in my mouth that I never quite said but you should stop. And I didn't even use the post to "defend" Kaley either. I came in the game and voted Kaley because I thought they weren't really doing anything other than half baked rhymes. Reading through a bit more gave me slightly different conclusions. You keep saying it's a town read but if I was even that concerned why didn't I move my vote? Didn't even move it till I saw the Qatol post and rels joining for 0 reasons. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Rayn talking about Kelsier posts would also be good. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 09 2018 23:22 Holyflare wrote: About three people called Kaley mafia because they were posting in rhymes and being specifically antagonistic towards you. It's the entire basis for Qatol's scum read even. Can you show me which posts you are referring to? Also can you elaborate on how is that Qatol's scum read because i do not think that is and it to me seems quite clear it isn't the reason why he is or was scumreading Kaley. I have said everything i have to say about Qatol so far. | ||
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