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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 23:44 GMT
#1135
On June 28 2018 08:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R


This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself

Where is your god now HF?


He voted to save himself at the last possible second when it might not have even been possible to save himself in a bid to get us to lynch the person that gave us information rather than just jumping on the confirmed town bf wagon.

He didn't even know if it would save him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 23:58 GMT
#1144
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R


I just want to highlight how bizarre (read: scummy) this post is by the way. As far as I know the non-Gemma guy town read ticktock before he left the thread and all that he has to go off of is Gemma leaving a cryptic message about lynching ticktock. He also had shockeyy as his most scummy person in a list with vivax.

"We should be hunting inside shockeyy, vivax, tt, slender and koshi" but koshi voted shockeyy, vivax (ok he switched but only to save tt) and tt also voted shockey and conversion also voted shockeyy instead of the town bf lynch.

Notice how shockeyy just disappears from this list when he talks about who could actually be mafia though. For a guy that seems to pride himself on making pairings and who can't be mafia together why does shockey EVER appear in this list to begin with?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 27 2018 23:59 GMT
#1146
On June 28 2018 08:56 Conversion wrote:
shoot me if you have to. somehow people have become more of a drama queen than I have and that's just boring. I'm just going to go play some shit game like DotA if I want to be surrounded by people giving up 10% of the way in the game


I think you're legit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:01 GMT
#1147
On June 28 2018 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:56 Conversion wrote:
shoot me if you have to. somehow people have become more of a drama queen than I have and that's just boring. I'm just going to go play some shit game like DotA if I want to be surrounded by people giving up 10% of the way in the game


I think you're legit.


Until I read the calix stuff above.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:10 GMT
#1150
I mean I don't really disagree with them. They sign up to play mafia with everyone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:11 GMT
#1154
I seem to remember reg making a post about vivax that he was slimy towards tt. I don't think they'd forget that and then put tt and vivax on the same team.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:14 GMT
#1157
On June 28 2018 09:11 CopCake wrote:
I want to point out something, and I hope someone smart, educated and with patience will read.

- I got told that TT was extremely frustrated and that is why he called me sheep sheep rayn hubby, that he was trying to do everything to save himself.

- Then he is all “I am sorry cake I will peace out I am sorry

- Calix did everything to save him, HF was like if TT dies he deserves it because he is not switching votes

- Then BF is rip, get told that TT is town for not voting himself by HF

- Regfan then comes and says that TT voted for someone else to vote himself, which the whole case of HF doesnt work anymore

- HF calls regfan mafia for this and says TT would not know if he saved himself. He voted at the last minute, 59 seconds before end of the day, a whole minute, please he was lurking forever doing nothing

Rip in peppers but no one will listen to me if anyone find tjis super odd


If you town read shockey, which you do, then why would they need to switch off shockey to save tt when shockey was always the lynch and if they were mafia partners tt can just come back and vote shockey???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:17 GMT
#1160
On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote:
I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix.

Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there.

We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch.

Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue.

Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us.

Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix.

-G


I know this is a post from Gemma but notice how it says here "we both think". This clearly means they talked or "talked" about vivax's treatment of ticktock and found it slimy. Reg hadn't been to the thread for ages so this should be about the last thing he remembers them talking about but it is never a factor.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:19 GMT
#1161
On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote:
Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.

I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.

Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content.


?? I just posted a shit tonne of content about this and didn't scream about anything

The only one remotely doing anything hyena-y is calix and she's your mafia read and it would be her job to tilt you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:26 GMT
#1164
On June 28 2018 09:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote:
no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash


I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference.

Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch.

This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo.

Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:
@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=all

but I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?


true

Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked.

To the other things:
If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways.


So yes you are scummy.


Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas

no bueno


On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet.

I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum


I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game


On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote:
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason.


On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum


On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.

And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here.


you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again

your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder


On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.

I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.

Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.

As I said, lynch shockey or feed.


I mirror this part 1000%



Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse.


Don't really agree with this. He voted after you and I even thought shockeyy was the lynch and he made a post after I accused him of saving bf basically saying fight me. Looks fine imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:29 GMT
#1165
I'm gonna make a list. Brace yourselves.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:33 GMT
#1167
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:35 GMT
#1169
On June 28 2018 09:34 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote:
So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.

I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks?


If you guys had been discussing Shokey a lot earlier when I was on him that could have been avoided, but I had to work and couldn't be around all of EoD.

I moved my vote when it actually seemed like it mattered and when I was able to.


There was a good long time he was discussed when you were around. You also posted in the vote thread specifically that you were not voting shockeyy....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:38 GMT
#1171
On June 28 2018 09:37 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
Now about those discord chats and timestamps. How about that?


You can read them without this crap, this is the same as pestering a smurf until they tell you who they are. I get that the info feels like it could be helpful to you, but acting like it is vital is stupid.


Am I not posting any other content towards them or what? I'm pretty sure I can post multiple things about people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:39 GMT
#1172
I also absolutely pester smurfs the entire game to tell me who they are.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:42 GMT
#1174
You are kind of to blame.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:44 GMT
#1175
I'm just talking to a brick wall. This catch up style and ignore the actual thread isn't a good way to play tt. You're denying me info and my ability to back and forth and figure things out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:48 GMT
#1177
On June 28 2018 09:46 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.


I am always willing to go down voting a wagon I believe in than save my own skin.

Why should I want to keep playing in a game where people are just gunna shit on whatever you do anyways? I get lynched, "Oh he played so bad it was his own fault" I stay alive "Oh he barely tried to save himself, if he had we coulda actually lynched mafia"


Fuck the haters, lynch mafia. Works every time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 00:50 GMT
#1179
Bed time I guess.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 28 2018 01:00 GMT
#1184
On June 28 2018 09:56 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R


This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself

Where is your god now HF?


Probably crying to himself in a pit for what his creation is doing.

God I am so wanting to call you mafia for how obstinate you are being but there can't be this many mafia...


And you complain about other people's toxicity.
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