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On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.
Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick.
Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points.
Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched.
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On June 28 2018 11:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. Nah, she said both  You're probably right though. I'm not really feeling the mafia vibes from anyone so it's just a matter of waiting for the less-townie people to get online and react. In the meantime, I'm going to bed. As an aside, I start having longer work shifts from tomorrow so when I drop off and can't spam my way to a 9-page filter every cycle, don't be surprised. I will say this about 3505437609 times just so people get the message ^^
Better make it 3505437615, just to be safe.
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On June 28 2018 11:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town. Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick. Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points. Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched. Imagine that, a game where the sentence "Tictock is contributing more than X player" can be said 
I will be proud of TL mafia when that isn't the case, Sadly 2 people not posting D1 seems fairly average these days.
Luckily we have some amazing hosts around here who put up with this crap.
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On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.
This still reads to me as using the following shit-slinging as a way to step away from the game. Giving rayn the benefit of the doubt here he would have been reacting to Conversion's "We should always lynch HF" stuff he did at the start.
Oh and this starts on pg 18 and into pg 19 if anyone wants to look themselves. + Show Spoiler [Rayn vs Conv] +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? On June 27 2018 01:40 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? No On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. Last time I read the ToS for teamliquid, a man named raynpelikoneet didn't have the right to dictate how/when I can post on these forums On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. On June 27 2018 01:44 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. I suggest you don't talk to me for the rest of the game and I will do the same. We enjoy a rather civil relationship when this dynamic is exercised properly! On June 27 2018 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree, you're trash. On June 27 2018 01:47 Conversion wrote:Keep the bottle away while you're playing, lush. Toodaloo! On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore. Calix is mafia. Vivax is mafia. Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.
bye.
So this was very much so a fight that Rayn instigated and then later uses as an excuse for stepping away from the game. The exchange feels overall pretty natural so I doubt this is a scum vs scum staged thing.
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Glad to see you decide to be civil Conversion.
In fairness to Gemma, the bitching only started this phase. Both heads of the hydra were putting a fair bit of effort into the game D1.
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
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On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community  To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion
So, you didn't understand why I would not switch back to Shokey, but thought both of us could be mafia. So you had to have concluded that we were mafia together and I was wanting to save my teammate then correct?
The boxer thing I was in total agreence about if you noticed.
On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote: I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute
Care to elaborate?
On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote: Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too. That you werent bagging rayn? I was giving my take on it, not going +1 Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.
You somehow got reg and conversion totally confused, not sure how you made that mistake unless you only glanced at my post without reading it.
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Rayn, what do you make of EoD?
Also sorry you rolled mafia.
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So you are just pandering to me then Mocsta?
Kus you clearly weren't trying to understand what I said in that post.
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You will all be getting a break from me today as I got next to no sleep and don't think I will manage to be very productive until I do.
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On June 28 2018 22:17 CopCake wrote: I explained you why I think rayn is town in my opinion.
Yet someone hasnt come to tell me why he is mafia.
You ignoring what people say is not the same as nobody telling you.
But then again Mocsta keeps not reading my posts as well, or is skimming them so superficially he has no clue what I am actually saying in them.
So either the scumteam is Rayn/Cake/Mocsta or there is just very little point in me trying to explain anymore.
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On June 28 2018 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 22:35 CopCake wrote:On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore. Calix is mafia. Vivax is mafia. Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.
bye. This is odd It is not odd. Conversion was and is a dickhead and i almost quit the game.
On June 28 2018 12:02 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.
This still reads to me as using the following shit-slinging as a way to step away from the game. Giving rayn the benefit of the doubt here he would have been reacting to Conversion's "We should always lynch HF" stuff he did at the start. Oh and this starts on pg 18 and into pg 19 if anyone wants to look themselves. + Show Spoiler [Rayn vs Conv] +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? On June 27 2018 01:40 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? No On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. Last time I read the ToS for teamliquid, a man named raynpelikoneet didn't have the right to dictate how/when I can post on these forums On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. On June 27 2018 01:44 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote: But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. I suggest you don't talk to me for the rest of the game and I will do the same. We enjoy a rather civil relationship when this dynamic is exercised properly! On June 27 2018 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree, you're trash. On June 27 2018 01:47 Conversion wrote:Keep the bottle away while you're playing, lush. Toodaloo! On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore. Calix is mafia. Vivax is mafia. Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.
bye. So this was very much so a fight that Rayn instigated and then later uses as an excuse for stepping away from the game. The exchange feels overall pretty natural so I doubt this is a scum vs scum staged thing.
So this was very much so a fight that Rayn instigated and then later uses as an excuse for stepping away from the game.
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On June 28 2018 22:57 Mocsta wrote: Ahh 2 babez
Time to mud wrestle
Yes im such a sexist pig and luvin it
You are also probably mafia for not doing any investigation yourself and just constantly reacting to what everyone else is presenting. Like you changed your own opinion about Rayn after every post HF made.
You are just on the sidelines cheering ppl on and nodding your head at what you assume to be the right time.
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On June 28 2018 23:17 CopCake wrote: Or that is how I see it but as many have said, maybe I am “bised” that is why I took the time to filter rayn in his eotd because the quote alone and the vote progression thatvwas presented to me looked indeed scummy.
You are a bit more than biased imo, you have spent more words explaining to us what Rayn's thought process was during EoD than rayn did DURING EoD. Yet you acted like you were unsure he was town at the start of this.
How can you go from not being sure what rayn's alignment is, to thinking you know his thought process? All without any input from rayn himself in that time!!! This makes no sense to me even taking into account you two have a relationship.
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On June 28 2018 23:43 Panseyflare wrote: I just find it funny you all lynched bf with me, because I never cared to explain my scumread on TT, then decided to call him town, and then said BF is probably mafia.
Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me.
But you all shit the bed.
Ftfy
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On June 29 2018 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Nor the people who are or i try to have "on my side". Literally the worst three nightkills to blame on me. So yeah, there's that mostly everyone is bad with nightkills. 
What is this? Pre-emptive distancing from the nightkills?
I don't understand why town!rayn would be concerned with this at all during N1... Literally the stupidest thing to be concerned with when no kills have happened yet.
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On June 29 2018 01:12 CopCake wrote: Also if we are fair, HF hasnt done anything during this game, which is kinda hypocrite for someone like Calix who make cases to rayn for “lol talking too much of other games”
Now I am gonna sit here and get a lot of shit comments of how I am biased.
Nah, you are right HF has done a whole lot of nothing this game. Very little analysis or anything.
I actually thought rayn made a decent point as well, HF had put Shokeyy as one of his 3 mafia, the about 12 hours later acted like he only then started to believe Shokey is mafia.
I still find it a bit disturbing that HF and Rayn have very different views of this game yet have interacted very little with each other as well. I don't really think they are a team though, so not sure what to make of that.
I still kinda like the Rayn/Mocsta/Cake team I suggested though. I could possibly exchange you for Shokey if I ever get to a point of understanding how you believe half the things you have been writing.
Mocsta at one point said "well shit if rayn is mafia, lets lynch him 3rd" Yet has offered no scum reads of his own to pursue first. In fact I don't recall where Mocsta's reads have gone since he made that case on Calix.
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On June 29 2018 02:11 Vivax wrote: Would be disappointed if I got shot tonight. This game is keeping me from going insane irl.
I am in a very similar boat, but traveling in the opposite direction.
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On June 29 2018 00:08 Holyflare wrote: Lol time to vote shockeyy tomorrow. My bad. This was 2 hours ago.
On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote: 2018 power tier list sheep or die
Calix TT
Vivax Conversion Mocsta
Koshi (potential to move up) Copcake Slenderman (why)
Reg (possibly not with rayn) Shockey (possibly not with rayn) Rayn
This was 17 hours ago.
The first post clearly reads "whoops I was wrong, lynch Shokeyy, I was wrong about him being town" but you clearly already had him as mafia in that list.
Definitely an inconsistency, but not sure if it actually makes you scum or not.
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On June 29 2018 02:50 CopCake wrote: TT lets be friends for a while
You have played a lot of games here
Tell me: Is HF this picky? Do you remember he called you mafia for using stroke on a setence?
My honest opinion of HF:
He plays in a style that maximizes his long term potential throughout multiple games. He plays purposely obtuse, says things to rile people up (often saying he is fishing for reaction), nitpicks at things, ignores what he pleases, dismisses what he feels like but makes a huge deal over other things.
Basically I think he tries to maximize his unreadablity, while putting in whatever level of effort he feels the game requires.
He certainty has his moments of insight, but he can be just as obtuse and wrong as anyone.
He also way over loves his "but why would I do X as mafia" defense.
Like rayn, HF is a player people around inexplicable are afraid to lynch, probably kus the average player around here either has severe doubts about their own ability or simply like to have a voice that tells them what to do, which relieves them of responsibility of their own actions. (That last bit is common outside of Mafia games as well)
I'd still say HF is most likely town this game, but if it turns I am wrong on rayn his likelihood of being scum here rises dramatically.
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@ HF
That's fair. But I think you can clearly see why I said what I did.
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