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On June 28 2018 08:41 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself Where is your god now HF?
Probably crying to himself in a pit for what his creation is doing.
God I am so wanting to call you mafia for how obstinate you are being but there can't be this many mafia...
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On June 28 2018 08:56 Conversion wrote: shoot me if you have to. somehow people have become more of a drama queen than I have and that's just boring. I'm just going to go play some shit game like DotA if I want to be surrounded by people giving up 10% of the way in the game
Wish I could petition to reinstate your self-enforced ban.
I never gave up, I voted who I thought was mafia (unlike you who swapped off your mafia read for no reason), and I have a life outside this game so wan't around every second of EoD.
Why are you so confused about people being toxic towards you when this is how you talk to/about people?
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On June 28 2018 08:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R I just want to highlight how bizarre (read: scummy) this post is by the way. As far as I know the non-Gemma guy town read ticktock before he left the thread and all that he has to go off of is Gemma leaving a cryptic message about lynching ticktock. He also had shockeyy as his most scummy person in a list with vivax. "We should be hunting inside shockeyy, vivax, tt, slender and koshi" but koshi voted shockeyy, vivax (ok he switched but only to save tt) and tt also voted shockey and conversion also voted shockeyy instead of the town bf lynch. Notice how shockeyy just disappears from this list when he talks about who could actually be mafia though. For a guy that seems to pride himself on making pairings and who can't be mafia together why does shockey EVER appear in this list to begin with?
Ohh, yea I missed the Shokey/pairings thing. I do agree this is a terrible post though... possibly bad enough to be a scum slip.
I apologize HF, now I'm interested in those paraphrasings and time stamps as well >.<
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On June 28 2018 09:11 CopCake wrote:I want to point out something, and I hope someone smart, educated and with patience will read. - I got told that TT was extremely frustrated and that is why he called me sheep sheep rayn hubby, that he was trying to do everything to save himself. - Then he is all “I am sorry cake I will peace out I am sorry - Calix did everything to save him, HF was like if TT dies he deserves it because he is not switching votes - Then BF is rip, get told that TT is town for not voting himself by HF - Regfan then comes and says that TT voted for someone else to vote himself, which the whole case of HF doesnt work anymore - HF calls regfan mafia for this and says TT would not know if he saved himself. He voted at the last minute, 59 seconds before end of the day, a whole minute, please he was lurking forever doing nothing  Rip in peppers but no one will listen to me if anyone find tjis super odd
Idk what you are getting at all here, but I will say that while I felt my wording was unnecessarily demeaning I 100% meant what I said about you.
I don't feel so bad to also tell you that you have god awful reading comprehension.
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On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content.
It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her.
You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere"
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On June 28 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 09:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote: no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference. Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch. This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo. Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this. On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote: I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote: someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote: Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000% Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse. Don't really agree with this. He voted after you and I even thought shockeyy was the lynch and he made a post after I accused him of saving bf basically saying fight me. Looks fine imo.
Ehh, ok yea I can see that. You are also right I thought Sho was gunna be the lynch but had forgotten that BF was auto-voting for himself per setup rules.
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On June 28 2018 09:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 09:34 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote: So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? If you guys had been discussing Shokey a lot earlier when I was on him that could have been avoided, but I had to work and couldn't be around all of EoD. I moved my vote when it actually seemed like it mattered and when I was able to. There was a good long time he was discussed when you were around. You also posted in the vote thread specifically that you were not voting shockeyy....
Yea that was after I wanted to lynch Rayn, also I may not have been fully caught up at that time. If so I guess that is my bad. I kept thinking I was was almost caught up, but this game has been pretty active.
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On June 28 2018 09:39 Holyflare wrote: I also absolutely pester smurfs the entire game to tell me who they are.
I know.
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On June 28 2018 09:44 Holyflare wrote: I'm just talking to a brick wall. This catch up style and ignore the actual thread isn't a good way to play tt. You're denying me info and my ability to back and forth and figure things out.
You just aren't thinking on the timescale of that wall...
Yea I can see what you mean, but I'm also just not a person who likes to sit in a thread I've read and wait for comments. I also want to read the whole game, and not forget about stuff I'm noticing/thinking.
I'll see if I can come up with a more happy medium, but this is something I have always struggled with. At least in the early game when the pace is fast, and there is always tons to read.
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On June 28 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 09:41 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 08:19 Conversion wrote:On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote: So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face-- I actually had to think a lot and came to a late conclusion. Would have been much, much easier if TT just voted to save himself as it made no sense in my head why he would go emo, make a comment on me going emo and modkilling myself in previous games, before ACTUALLY voting to save himself. But whatever. Boxerfred lynch was trash, and now we just extended day1 for no reason whatsover. Thanks shitty wagoners that enabled this to happen. TT dying would have been more favorable than this garbage So why did you move your vote at all, and not try harder to sway people to vote me. Love how multiple people are acting like I'm to blame for BF getting lynched. Who’s acting like you are to blame, regardless of what HF said? I was explaining my rationale to Calix, and somehow you’re taking that as me blaming you. My vote hinged on you actually playing the game, who fucking knew? If you’re just going to act like a pissy, moody, teenager, kindly join the rayn camp and don’t bother fucking talking to me. I’m seriously sick of your shit attitude and you telling me I do the same in past games when you’re the one acting like a fucking drama queen along with Regfan
First off Conv, how can we talk to each other without slinging shit?
I am willing to work with you, but this is not a one sided thing. So starting now lets be civil, ya?
How about you pose me something that you'd like me to look into or some read to expand on? I will do that if you in turn help me to understand where your head was at EoD.
So why did you move your vote at all, and not try harder to sway people to vote me.
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On June 28 2018 10:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 09:56 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 08:41 CopCake wrote:On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself Where is your god now HF? Probably crying to himself in a pit for what his creation is doing. God I am so wanting to call you mafia for how obstinate you are being but there can't be this many mafia... And you complain about other people's toxicity.
I have admitted to being a hypocrite as well, so I am aware. That god comment wasn't directed to Cake though, I think that about life outside of the mafia game.
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On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^
Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?"
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So my thread presence is probably shit, is my take away here.
But I counter that my filter is probably Immaculate!
As for Toxicity, I'll tone down any preaching, but despite being human I do think it is possible to at least make the effort to be respectful or at least acknowledge when you are less than that and work to be better. It's when you have no self awareness but still complain that I'm actually bothered.
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On June 28 2018 10:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:37 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^ Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?" She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first. Also don't lie, we are totally dating.
I thought we were still in the "lying about it to ourselves" phase 
And didn't I respond to Cake that I was starting to see more towny things, and felt like you were a bad D1 lynch even if i had doubts, thus wanted to stear people away from lynching you?
I'm really starting to wonder if maybe I'm just imagining posting some stuff.
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On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote: And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk.
Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that.
I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did.
I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia.
Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town.
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On June 28 2018 10:46 Regfan wrote: This site is completely unbearable. I'm glad I got to roll a town hydra with Regfan but I sincerely regret ever stepping foot in this place.
Bye, enjoy whatever the fuck this game is.
While a decent part of me agrees here, I also feel like you should either just get out or try to make it a better place, at least while you are here. Otherwise you become toxic.
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@ Calix
Yea I actually think it is a language barrier or something. I've only played a few times with Cake but she often makes posts that are very hard to follow and sometimes completely misses the mark in what someone is saying. I could actually pull up an example I noticed from this game if you like.
My observation is that Cake tends to hide behind this confusion when mafia, but tries to be open and share her thoughts as town.
As much as I've struggled with her the past day, I still think she is most likely town here.
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Ok I need to get some food but I'm caught up and will try to be around tonight (and may even stay caught up ).
Right now I feel pretty good about HF being town, Calix is still solid town, Vivax very likely town, and Mocsta is probably town.
I am willing to work with conversion if he can work with me, him being scum hasn't quite made sense in my mind even though OMGUS sometimes makes me believe it. Similarly with Cake.
Reg needs a revisit after that post HF and I started picking at.
I will strongly oppose a slender lynch tomorrow, because we can't really afford to spend another lynch on a coinflip that gives no info. While I'd have preferred a Shokey lynch, tbh BF wasn't a BAD lynch at least not for D1.
If Koshi keeps what he has been doing up I am ok with him for another phase, but I would prefer it if he could step it up just another notch.
I am coming after anyone not mentioned in this post.
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On June 28 2018 11:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote: And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk. Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town. You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑 Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME: - You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”
You are right, I was originally reacting to the multiple posts you made where you said something like "I can only see Calix as town if rayn is mafia" and were seeming to be generally unwilling to change your stance.
In the more resent post I was trying to get through to you a bit more, but am probably still just being a bit of an ass.
And so we can get past this "read switch on Calix" thing, can we agree that either I legitemetly have had a change of heart about Calix over the course of the phase as town, or have shown face and exposed a partner as mafia?
We now have 72 hours before the next lynch, and will get a bit more info in 24 hours. Can you at least admit that objectively the town scenario for myself is a bit more likely than the mafia one, and try to drop this till day phase? It will really help me not wanting to scumread you every few posts.
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On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote: You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page.
It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath.
However yea, breaks are good.
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