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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:08 GMT
#1240
#1238

Yeah in isolation to the game, the "grab my tools and go" thing seemed like a super over reaction.
If anything, you woudl think rayn is super happy to be town, and his gf (copcake) be town.

But, i dont know if there was some "inside story' between rayn/regfan that sparked that reaction.

I have chosen to treat that as null on that assumption; but meh, happy for either to clarify though.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:30 GMT
#1249
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:32 GMT
#1251
On June 28 2018 12:23 CopCake wrote:
Shotkey*


lol

shock-e

shot=key is diode
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:35 GMT
#1253
On June 28 2018 12:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am npt sure why i even asked him to play. I probably thought he could actually handle a game where people argue with him.
dude, mental health is a real thing

if you have a problem with him as a person, take it out of the game please.

this is needless regardless of alignment.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:37 GMT
#1256
On June 28 2018 12:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.

What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.

Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.

I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.



I have problems with this, I personally would go to lynch my mafia read and go to try to make others follow me, not make others follow me (or in this case with the help of HF) to help to vote for an AFK. If she wouldnt hesitated then I understand because that was her first position but when the time came and she got a gun to shot... she was like “Oh no I am doing this to save TT”

It is like she hesitated because she knew boxerfred was town? Or her frustation came because shotkey wasnt being lynched?

Either way I would have learned MORE if TT or even Shitjey would have been lynched, now I am here; stuck with ny same reads, confused because I see a lot of change of hearts.
in your eyes, why would mafia hesitate to vote a town boxerfred? especialy, if she already showed she was willing to vote an afk?

mafia cant just keep voting mafia

as for shotkey, im not sure, i will have to filter dive that. can do once i finished with the wicked wings.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:38 GMT
#1257
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:42 GMT
#1261
On June 28 2018 12:40 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion


So, you didn't understand why I would not switch back to Shokey, but thought both of us could be mafia. So you had to have concluded that we were mafia together and I was wanting to save my teammate then correct?

The boxer thing I was in total agreence about if you noticed.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote:
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute


Care to elaborate?



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.


You somehow got reg and conversion totally confused, not sure how you made that mistake unless you only glanced at my post without reading it.
you commented on 2 timeline events

i agree conversion/rayn is natural so didnt bother.

i was comment on oriignal post which i believe was to regfan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:44 GMT
#1262
On June 28 2018 12:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:38 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....




I am gonna assume rayn is mad because gemma used a super cheap appeal to emotion card that made him feel bad flr no reason.

Rayn is a very sweet person and cares for his friends. That is why he invited refgan and slenderman here.
i thought it had to do with regfan going for a run and talking about the good ol' days.

nothing to do wityh gemma?

seems odd beef here because even you are adding "super cheap" here etc
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:50 GMT
#1267
On June 27 2018 21:40 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Lets talk, want to put your brain in for a second if you can find it?

Maybe there's a reason that Gemma and myself weren't playing much as a hydra for the prior parts? Hmmm. Let me think, oh yeah, I wasn't fucking here for ~20 hours and mentioned a few times I'm going to my girlfriends last night and would have zero chance to get to a computer. You know, that thing that I haven't been joining games of mafia for a while due to and why I've had to tell you no to playing prior games, yeah that? This really should be something that you'd have realised fucking ages ago. Oh and me playing this game a jigsaw puzzle and that I'm trying to break things into blocks and solve them that way re; what I was saying with you/calix/cake, the same thing where I've mentioned I assess things differently and look for anti-alignments in games to you before I agreed to come play a game here. And it really shouldn't be that difficult to understand why I'm more hesitant when it comes to reading you here, I pretty much know if you're scum and I state a town read on you here, you'll shoot me N1 and then make fun of me post-game for misreading you; sure I may have had a fairly good grip on reading you in the past, and heck, maybe I still do, but I've made it pretty clear in that I've changed a lot as a player since back then and I'm normally more patient when it comes to some reads. I wanted to be able to interact with you a lot and actually see you gamesolve to be able to solidify a read on you. But yeah, you're town, I don't think you go with this much of a stupid attack here if you're scum at all and think it's literally just another case of you not thinking about anything deeply at all, or stepping back and analysing and trying to solve.

So congrats, you've properly tilted me, happens very fucking rarely, but yeah, you're wrong on Calix, you're town and you're still completely unbearable to play with and I'm going for a run because I don't want to even deal with this shit anymore.

- R
On June 27 2018 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you're probably town after all. Actually no, definitely. You have some weird way of twisting my play into some fucking bullshit about you when it is -- and has never been like that. It is cheap way to prove you're town Regfan, in my opinion. Whenever i disagree with you or think you are mafia you blow up and make a post like this. Also no, if i am mafia in this game i never shoot you N1 and no, i won't, or ever have made fun of you after game, as any fucking alignment (except for when you told erveryone in the game i am the worst player ever and then i got angry and single-handedly lynched all mafia and SK in a row because i got pissed off at you). And even then, that was my way of making fun of you, indirectly.

So if you wanna talk about something yeah, we can talk. I am gonna be gone for like 5-6 hours though. Maybe Gemma can like share the secret of why TT is a scumread because it still isn't out there. I also disagree with your reads on Koshi and Shockeyy. I do not think they are overly townie but when i have an actual scumread i am not lynching a null over scumread.
nothign to do with gemma?

i dunno how important this is.. so going to stop here

could just be group beef outside game


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:54 GMT
#1268
On June 28 2018 12:48 Tictock wrote:
So you are just pandering to me then Mocsta?

Kus you clearly weren't trying to understand what I said in that post.
i dont understand where pander comes from

u say u give rayn BoD which is null or town

you reference convo/rayn as justification

im saying view it as null because i consider some external factors.

what is this pandering to you that you are mentioning? idg it?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:00 GMT
#1271
On June 28 2018 13:39 CopCake wrote:
I am still waiting for someone to tell me how rayn is mafia.
I believe via PoE is where it comes from


On June 27 2018 21:16 Vivax wrote:
HF/koshi/shockey works for me actually. Probably a better combination than one including rayn, although I don't understand his anger about conversion, mostly cause I would just agree that I'm a dick at times.
On June 28 2018 05:48 Vivax wrote:
Copcop feels slightly townie after reread if I add a spanish accent to her wording so I guess the guys who are scum besides schockey are mocmoc and raynrayn. I'm sort of feeling good about HF as I don't believe he's just going to stay on boxer. I can't get rid of the feeling he's just sort of derping around tho.


I am not sure on TT current Rayn read. Filter ebbs and flows for last 10 ctrl+F
On June 28 2018 09:55 Tictock wrote:
Rayn is totes mafia, you also need to still explain why you think I am mafia. You keep putting out really vuage things about it.

Wait, actually weren't you the one who thought I was town and it was G who thought I was mafia? What happened?
On June 28 2018 10:22 Tictock wrote:
Yea that was after I wanted to lynch Rayn, also I may not have been fully caught up at that time. If so I guess that is my bad. I kept thinking I was was almost caught up, but this game has been pretty active.


This is more Rayn is in null-land territory
On June 27 2018 21:14 Conversion wrote:
1) I'm not actually being serious about HF. He sounds town, doesn't like TT like me. Overall his play is unimpressive to me so far

2) After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that. That lynch pool was a gun to my head if I were to vote on people. I still don't think there's a mafia in Vivax/Calix, but I may be wrong.

If I'm going by PoE, you and rayn are not lynches today. Mocsta/HF/Cop are my town reads. Shockeyy/Vivax/Calix/Koshi

My Vivax read is more of a gut feel as he hasn't posted enough to form any read to me. I do actively question people who scum read him and Calix together as that makes almost 0% sense in my books


On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:16 GMT
#1275
On June 28 2018 14:09 CopCake wrote:
What is PoE?

I am not used to the terms. Probably appeal to emotion is the only one I use with meta.
PoE is process of elimination

so in 13 player game.. if you have 10 town reads, the remaining 3 are mafia by process of elimination
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:17 GMT
#1276
when i can be bothered later on, im going to dive vivax
i dont get how I think it was TT thinks his filter is good.
Just looking for those rayn quotes was like meh, completely unfocused and just being there.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 07:37 GMT
#1279
On June 28 2018 16:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've tried being nice to you but you decided to modkill yourself instead when faced with totally non-toxic pressure so good day to you. I hope you find pleasure playing mafia elsewhere.

Ehen did they get modkilled??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 09:08 GMT
#1284
Thats a shame.

My main doubt of rayn is why he got so annoyed with regfan being" town."

Could be as simple as twas mafia setting up to get his friend lynched and couldnt make the move anymore because he is now meant to know regfan is town

Like its a real oddity for me to get past
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 10:25 GMT
#1292
On June 28 2018 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 18:08 Mocsta wrote:
Thats a shame.

My main doubt of rayn is why he got so annoyed with regfan being" town."

Could be as simple as twas mafia setting up to get his friend lynched and couldnt make the move anymore because he is now meant to know regfan is town

Like its a real oddity for me to get past


He's done it before when someone swore on their life that they were town and he got annoyed that it was a cheap way to confirm themselves. Pretty sure he was town then too.
mmm i suppose thats valid too for someone like rayn and i think equally yourself

Kk i treat that as null therefore rayn is back in my good boy pile

I want to shoot koshi
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 11:07 GMT
#1294
On June 28 2018 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
I wouldn't care if someone cheaply became town unless I was mafia lol

Lol so its totally legit im hung up on this

And copcake is annoying about it because clearly biased

Meh. If rayn was scum. I treat him as 3rd and just wont bother with it any further.

Is rayn still your top read?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 13:13 GMT
#1301
On June 28 2018 22:09 CopCake wrote:
Explain the part “copcake is annoying”
if you include the second half of thr sentence it states you are clearly biased (about rayn)

Thats is why you are annoying
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 13:29 GMT
#1307
On June 28 2018 22:24 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 22:19 Vivax wrote:
The only TR he could have had was shockey, but he had just two votes iirc.


Rayn came in and asked "why does ShoCkeyy have votes?"

At the time, ShoCkeyy had three votes.

One vote was me (his top scum-read).

One vote was Vivax (another one of rayn's scum-reads).

The third vote was Tictock.

Therefore it doesn't make sense for him to ask that question. Because the obvious answer from rayn's point of view is that mafia are trying to mislynch ShoCkeyy.

When I asked him this, rayn just called me "super scummy" and never answered the question.
this post is sexy

I would love to hear copcakes biased opinion
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 13:44 GMT
#1314
U were the only one advocating a dumbtell
And its not even clear what its relating to.. what the stuoid as fuck 3 shots at night..

If shockeyy has played here b4.. thats nit a dum tell as no game this size has that mechanic.
Nor is it a vig crumb

Criticse it all you want but calix conclusion is legit because of your position on the dumbtell which you just reinforced....

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