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On June 28 2018 05:45 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 04:56 CopCake wrote:
TT being mafia makes sense since a while for the mental gymnastic he pulled to deffend Calix tbf.
The mafia team to me is
Calix-Ticktock-Regfan
Or
Calix-Ticktock-Inactive that has posted
If Calix ended up to be town then I will look at you Rayn but I am confident that Calix is mafia and I dont know why others are trying to make you reconsider ir asking me to look at you. I mean knowing you, you just dont tunnel someone for the sake of it and you dont pull the “I am bad I am bad” after it 🤔 besides if you dont die early you are mafia, that is a fact. You could go back and read where I said I started to change my mind on Calix and realize my point about her being a bad lynch even if I did think she was possibly mafia. Hence why I never actually tried to push a lynch on her. Or yea, we are the worst mafia team ever in existence. It's probably that. I'd try to convince you that rayn is mafia here, but I know you are a submissive sheep who will never turn on hubby.
I am removing myself from the game for a while longer, but I wanted to once again apologize for this comment. I should have taken a break a while ago when I first started feeling fatigued but felt like I needed to press on while I was on lunch as it was my only real chance to try and get caught up before deadline.
None of that excuses this, and I hope I didn't offend you too much Cake.
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On June 28 2018 05:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
holyflare.
i am like 80% sure calix is mafia.
how sure you are in that tt is mafia? I still don't think she's mafia rayn. Dunno what to say. I'm not sure on tt either but his posts are outrageously wrong and I don't know what that makes him. I also have absolutely no idea who he scum reads because all he does is comment on posts that are days old and say random things. I'd give him about a 65% chance to maybe 70 that he's mafia.
HF you have played with me a bunch of times yet act like you have no idea how I play.
I get that it's not a method you like or that makes me especially readable, but it is how I like to approach the game.
In your own words, Deal with it. Luckily for you, you wont have to for very long.
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I'm still a few pages behind, and looks like am going to be the lynch.
Never lynch:
Calix
Copcake
Regfan
Probably town:
Vivax
HF (I don't like his attitude towards EoD here, and his read on me has been so stagnant that I'm not totally sure, but my instinct is that he is likely town here)
Mocsta
Lynch with Fire:
Rayn
Shokeyy
Conversion
Who the hell knows:
Koshi
BF
Slender
Amazing how consistent my track record has been this past year or so.
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On June 28 2018 07:54 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:53 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 07:52 Conversion wrote:
Otherwise I'm sticking to TT. No way town!TT doesn't vote Shock here after scumreading him and having a chance to get him lynched over himself. So mafia!TT's brilliant plan is to kill himself? On top of everything else, he is more likely to flip mafia than town. IF he is town he needs to fuck off with his emo TL mafia is trash garbage monologue he's doing and actually play to save himself on a scum read HE ACTUALLY HAS win-win either way
Rayn is mafia, I'll go down with that.
I'd rather get myself out of this game than go with the weak BF coinflip that PansyFlare is going for.
Also, Pot calling the Kettle black eh? I don't mind I deserve it, I think I've learned my lesson finally though.
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Eh I will swap to Sho, that is a much more reasonable lynch
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Sorry if I should wait for a Night post, but I don't feel like staying at work any longer.
On June 28 2018 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:well this D1 is gonna end up on a town lynch most likely based on votes. 
On June 28 2018 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Small note. I am not going to blame myself if i call holyflare mafia on D2 after he lynches TT.
On June 28 2018 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like uh... TT you have to be mafia.
I am gonna trust and sheep HF here.
#unvote
##vote tictock
On June 28 2018 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
calix is still mafia though.
These are some of Rayn's posts from EoD, or ~2 hours prior.
Note that when he says "this is gunna be a town lynch based on votes" the wagons are Calix and Me.
How the hell does this sort of shit come from town?
Since everyone decided to ignore this point from me EoD, I want people to look back at rayn and his EoD and explain to me how he can possibly be town here.
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On June 28 2018 07:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:10 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 05:26 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
holyflare.
i am like 80% sure calix is mafia.
how sure you are in that tt is mafia? I still don't think she's mafia rayn. Dunno what to say. I'm not sure on tt either but his posts are outrageously wrong and I don't know what that makes him. I also have absolutely no idea who he scum reads because all he does is comment on posts that are days old and say random things. I'd give him about a 65% chance to maybe 70 that he's mafia. HF you have played with me a bunch of times yet act like you have no idea how I play. I get that it's not a method you like or that makes me especially readable, but it is how I like to approach the game. In your own words, Deal with it. Luckily for you, you wont have to for very long. I normally have absolutely no problem reading you. Or at least being sure one way or the other even if I'm wrong. This game you feel extremely off. It's statements like you made against me not reevaluating that make you look bad because that is a a completely untrue statement and you have absolutely no care in the world to follow up that statement.
The statement I made was quite true when I wrote it given the amount of the game I had read. As I read more of your posts it became clear that there was some evolution so I never came back to this.
I should point out that you decided to give me an extremely dismissive to a question I posed you and refused to explain why you continued to call me mafia for practically the whole phase.
In other words, stop being an ass and actually help me read you so we can get past stupid shit like this.
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On June 28 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:21 Koshi wrote:On June 28 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote:
If I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit. Why is TT town big claims, need some dot points br0 Not surw if you can read. WTF is going on with this game. A, there is no tracker to claim.... B, Why is TT town.... Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Ended up reading TT and think we should vote Vivax over Calix. I'll still follow rayn but Vivax looks worse from what I read. Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:03 Koshi wrote:
After reading tt filter I want to betray rayn. Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Reading schockeyy I am ok with him dieing over TT. The betrayel is real but schockeyy is either bad town or mafia. TT is actually playing.
##unvote
Vote schockeyy Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote:
If I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit. Thats it...
I am confused, I thought you townread me after the stuff so posted about you a day or so ago, which was more or less the last time you were in the game.
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Ok, disregard that Mocsta, I see you were just questioning why Koshi was town reading me.
@ Calix, sorry I knew I was doing that, but I also saw the vote count and it didn't seem like my vote would matter. Thus I was fine leaving it on obvious Mafia!rayn. I think you can see I wasn't totally resigned to letting myself die, just mostly >.<
And since I clearly need to spell it out for people, I am reading the rest of EoD I didn't have a chance to before. I will be caught up within the hour, I will get to things when I get to them.
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also if this is a no modkill game I'm just AFKing until end game
Shame on Vivax and Conv for suggesting this.
Why bother to sign up to play at all then?
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On June 28 2018 07:55 Regfan wrote:
Lynching a 0 poster does not give us information.
If there's modkills in the game, it's taking away one shot of us hitting scum that we could use better.
If there's not modkills then we can make sure to overly focus on the slot tomorrow.
Aiming at BF or TSM here doesn't make sense, regardless of their alignment.
- R
While I obviously agree that lynching non-posters is just a coinflip and is suboptimal, I'm not sure what you expect to discuss regarding an empty slot?
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On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote:
no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash
I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference.
Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch.
This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo.
Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this.
On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote:
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000%
Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse.
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On June 28 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
#1099
well i read that stuff when i dived him and thought it was ok
why is the inconsistency scummy?
like I think he states ?later? that calix is 80% scummy.. so makes sense to me he is fluctuating his position
and the 25min pause because stamps is a fair bit of time to change position, at least for me lol
is that the only reason he thought you were scum. becase of HF?
actually dont bother, i go chec now.
Because when Rayn says "the votes probably mean town is getting lynch" his own preffered lynch was winning.
Add to that that none of his posts try to do anything to bring up new potential wagons, in fact none of his posts suggest any real drive to affect anything that is going on. He's posting but just content with w/e is going on then.
In general his reads feel pretty shallow, uninteresting, and doesn't have much of any "fluctiating position" at all if you look. His shockey "dumb tell" makes no sense and feels fake as well, though I'm not sure if that solidifies a Rayn/Sho team for me. I could see mafia!rayn make the same comment regardless of Sho's alignment, kus either he's protecting a teammate or setting up a "I told you so" if Sho flips green.
I am also thinking the little shit fest between him and Conversion was possibly faked and they both used it as a way to get out of the thread for awhile. I still need to go back and re-read that stuff though.
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On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote:
So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks?
If you guys had been discussing Shokey a lot earlier when I was on him that could have been avoided, but I had to work and couldn't be around all of EoD.
I moved my vote when it actually seemed like it mattered and when I was able to.
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On June 28 2018 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
Now about those discord chats and timestamps. How about that?
You can read them without this crap, this is the same as pestering a smurf until they tell you who they are. I get that the info feels like it could be helpful to you, but acting like it is vital is stupid.
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On June 28 2018 08:19 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote:
So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face-- I actually had to think a lot and came to a late conclusion. Would have been much, much easier if TT just voted to save himself as it made no sense in my head why he would go emo, make a comment on me going emo and modkilling myself in previous games, before ACTUALLY voting to save himself. But whatever. Boxerfred lynch was trash, and now we just extended day1 for no reason whatsover. Thanks shitty wagoners that enabled this to happen. TT dying would have been more favorable than this garbage
So why did you move your vote at all, and not try harder to sway people to vote me.
Love how multiple people are acting like I'm to blame for BF getting lynched.
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On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.
With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.
That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.
Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.
I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
I am always willing to go down voting a wagon I believe in than save my own skin.
Why should I want to keep playing in a game where people are just gunna shit on whatever you do anyways? I get lynched, "Oh he played so bad it was his own fault" I stay alive "Oh he barely tried to save himself, if he had we coulda actually lynched mafia"
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On June 28 2018 08:32 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late. I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD. You do NOT do that out of nowhere.
I didn't do it out of nowhere, I keep telling you that but you wont bother to check.
Even if I did, I did it as town. So stuff it, and realize you are bad and pocketed by mafia!rayn.
This is the last time I try to talk sensibly to you, as I am realizing you are stuck in this world.
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On June 28 2018 08:38 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 08:32 CopCake wrote:On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late. I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD. You do NOT do that out of nowhere. This does not answer my question. Why does he let himself almost die as mafia? Why does he not vote to save himself? Ask him yourself, I would believe it was because he ess an ass to me and felt guilt.
This would have nothing to do with my alignment, nor my will to save myself.
I never intentionally play against my Win Con.
So try again.
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On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.
Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.
TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.
There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.
Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.
Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.
Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.
Outtahere
-R
Rayn is totes mafia, you also need to still explain why you think I am mafia. You keep putting out really vuage things about it.
Wait, actually weren't you the one who thought I was town and it was G who thought I was mafia? What happened?
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