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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 22:59 GMT
#1082
i cant believe this is happening

this is the first afk lurker lynch i have seen lol
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 22:59 GMT
#1087
thisi s fuckn hillarious

ohh my

the shame!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:00 GMT
#1091
i guess thats a shockeyy lynch?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:15 GMT
#1101
#1099
well i read that stuff when i dived him and thought it was ok
why is the inconsistency scummy?

like I think he states ?later? that calix is 80% scummy.. so makes sense to me he is fluctuating his position
and the 25min pause because stamps is a fair bit of time to change position, at least for me lol

is that the only reason he thought you were scum. becase of HF?
actually dont bother, i go chec now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:23 GMT
#1111
How did we get to this point?

I thought the first 24hrs went so well

I suppose its a bit 'lord of the flies" as in with no genuine wagon everyone has had to create sides, resulting in a lot of tension.

TT, I do find it odd that rayn is fluctuating between calling you town/scum thruoghout first 24hrs, and second 24hrs. Moreso, that if you waver like that, I think the position to hold is "null". I dunno if thats really mafia trying to keep options open though. Weird way to do it if you ask me.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:36 GMT
#1123
On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
TT is good actually.

Why am I not included in the "happy flitting between lynches" camp. You even caleld me out for my change of heart in reads?

Regardless, Vivax is where I keep coming back. Pretty much acting as a commentator this game, no laser focus.
Thats my preferred shot if there is a vigilante
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:38 GMT
#1128
On June 28 2018 08:33 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.


I'll accept this as a rationale for your EOD.

Doesn't hurt that you agree with me a lot when it comes to reads. I'm not sure about CopCake but it's undeniable that she made a fair few terrible posts near EOD. Might need to reread her.

I would add Mocsta to the list but we'll see what he does when he's properly caught up.
Im not sure I will ever catch up

i dont have the motivation to do it
20pages is a lot, and the game seems to have devolvedinto a shit fest.

most likely what will happen is that this is a new slate, and my itnerpretation of p28-48 will be via filter dives.

im not apologising for it, but I will try to commit to not throwing out half-baked ideas.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:41 GMT
#1132
On June 28 2018 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
If shockeyy is mafia then tt could have quite easily voted him and those people would be bussing shockeyy if they were mafia for no reason.
thats a valid point

similar scenario to kita/me/iamp in the last game on d2.
no1 voted jumped as needless

Do you think Rayn was legit to scum read regfan and then town read based on some "inside info" shit that went over my head?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:47 GMT
#1137
ahh conversion, how do i keep forgetting about him

hmm, HF, what do you think of his vote switch?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:47 GMT
#1138
[b]shoot</b>conversion
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 27 2018 23:57 GMT
#1142
On June 28 2018 08:51 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote:
If I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit.
Why is TT town

big claims, need some dot points br0

Not surw if you can read.
WTF is going on with this game.

A, there is no tracker to claim....

B, Why is TT town....

On June 27 2018 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Ended up reading TT and think we should vote Vivax over Calix. I'll still follow rayn but Vivax looks worse from what I read.
On June 28 2018 07:03 Koshi wrote:
After reading tt filter I want to betray rayn.
On June 28 2018 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Reading schockeyy I am ok with him dieing over TT. The betrayel is real but schockeyy is either bad town or mafia. TT is actually playing.

##unvote
Vote schockeyy
On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote:
If I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit.


Thats it...


I am confused, I thought you townread me after the stuff so posted about you a day or so ago, which was more or less the last time you were in the game.
I do tr read
its why i didnt vote you

but koshi has never explained why he didnt want to vote you, and instead shits on me "learn2read br0"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:10 GMT
#1214
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.

CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.

No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:20 GMT
#1217
Hi CopCake,

Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.

Apologies if you have addressed some of this already.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:25 GMT
#1220
On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.

CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.

No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.


You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page.

It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath.

However yea, breaks are good.
Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it...

I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that.

Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:27 GMT
#1222
On June 28 2018 11:24 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:20 Mocsta wrote:
Hi CopCake,

Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.

Apologies if you have addressed some of this already.


What makes rayn mafia? Explain to me on a case because last I remember me and you had the same reads and suddenly in 5 min you changed your mind.
I dont know why you have to be like this?

I am asking you because my read on Rayn hasnt changed throughout the game; whereas, for others, it is visibly changing.

I am genuinely interested in your feedback.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:37 GMT
#1227
On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.

CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.

No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.


You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page.

It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath.

However yea, breaks are good.
Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it...

I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that.

Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.


Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick.

Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points.

Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched.
hmm that last bit is a good point. As mafia he certainly had the follow through to commit.

Me likey

Do you what koshi was talking about with a "tracker claim"?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:43 GMT
#1230
On June 28 2018 11:36 CopCake wrote:
My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.

Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.

In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.

He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it.
Thanks,

I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock).

I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.


What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra?
I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible?
Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:49 GMT
#1233
#1228
@ Regfan

I dont know if this is meaningless or not, but, the discord logs is such short conversation compared to how you articulate in the thread.

im quite shocked actually.

Im not going to lie.
One hand it totally makes me go.. ahhh. this is why there is a disconnection
On the other hand. it totally makes me go.. this has to be fake

I suppose I can appreciate the frustration some may feel with how the lynch went down; but; whats weighing in for me is that I thought it was normal across other sites to each random vote on D1. This is heavily advocated by n00bking IIRC.

Im choosing to go down the disconnection route. Primarily because I dont see how your posting style this game suits mafia agenda. In the sense of, if you want to infiltrate town, sure, you have done it. but i dont see how you have been working in a team (aside from each other).
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 02:50 GMT
#1234
On June 28 2018 11:49 CopCake wrote:
Explain to me the part of the “hissy fit” please?
hahah, hissy fit is "kicking up a stink" , 'being a drama queen", "jumping on the bed and screaming"

I am refering to Regfan declaring he will quit, everyone is a fuckwit etc.

Maybe "Ragequit" would translate well?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:05 GMT
#1239
On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.

What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.

Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.

I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.

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