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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 12:59 GMT
#226
Lol what is this, make hard accusations and when someone debunks you or has more experience playing with someone suddenly his reasons are invalid?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 13:06 GMT
#233
That was for regfan/gemma. Not you.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 13:29 GMT
#246
Hey Vivax! 👋
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 14:48 GMT
#284
I dont think I have been confusing at all this game so quit that bullshit to have a null read on me HF. If I was so confusing people like TT or Mocca wouldnt have followed my process of thinking.

I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan)

Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did.

Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative.

Now I am gonna post for ##Calix

Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case.

What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 16:19 GMT
#343
I am at work, case on calix during my lunch time.

I feel better about HF now, like he looks townish.

I have problens with regfan, I wonder if that first post was a “Oh but mafia would never do that at first” thing, like quit suspicious but it worked the opposite way since rayn and HF were on it.

I have also troubles with regfan asking me for reads with a lot of pressure but doing nothing with them, like I said I suspected HF but he never refuted, never said oh cake you are mistaken, etc.

In addition, he seems to know me because he told Gemma about me and rayn being a couple 🤔 or at least has a little of knowledge of me. Idk, it is super odd.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 16:30 GMT
#350
On June 27 2018 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 01:19 CopCake wrote:
In addition, he seems to know me because he told Gemma about me and rayn being a couple 🤔 or at least has a little of knowledge of me. Idk, it is super odd.

Maybe he is a stalker? :o
Or maybe i have just talked with him on messenger.
Who knows?


Huh, well you know he asked about me and I told him to ask you or slendy but asking outside the thread wouldnt it be bad? :p

But if you have told him before then nevermind.

I just dont like him, he seems mafiaish to me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 17:09 GMT
#375
Dont fight and try to play the game, ok? No need to insult members.

I will throw and say:

Mocca anf TT are town
Rayn is town
HF is townish

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 17:19 GMT
#378
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 17:30 GMT
#380
On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.


But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 18:07 GMT
#396
On June 27 2018 02:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 02:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.


But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O


No, I was calling you mafia for that within the context of when you posted about the inactives while a bunch of other shit was going down.

Meanwhile I'm talking about inactives because few of the active people look like good D1 lynch candidates. Okay yeah, I could #yolo vote Regfan or HF but that would be dumb since they'll actually play and respond to accusations and the like.

Also I'm going to ask you why you think HF is townish now. You were scum-reading him, then you said you felt better about him but you never really explained why or what posts made you conclude that.


Other shit is also going on here yet you want inactives to participate. I didnt want to have a general read on people on point fingers or better said, have a strong opinion before I have seen the inactives play to have a better view of the whole game.

HF is making fair points, with the way he reads me (I annoyed a lot in the drawing game) to pointing out other members. I had him on suspect because he wasnt very “agressive” or his playstyle was different. I don still think he is playing a little different but maybe it is because no one has pissed him off yet maybe?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 18:22 GMT
#400
Unless Ticktock plan is to pocket me, he is totes town.

Like literally pocketing me is the worst mafia play someone can do on this site since I dont have a lot of influence here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 19:54 GMT
#406
How is vivax town town?

Idg why HF is mafia, I believed me and you were like mind twins in the game but alas we are not.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 20:52 GMT
#412
[QUOTE]On June 27 2018 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count






ShoCkeyy[1]:ShoCkeyy
Holyflare[1]:Conversion
Regfan[3]:Mocsta,Regfan,Ticktock
Calix[1]:raynpelikoneet
Koshi[1]:Koshi
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[2]:CopCake,Vivax Calix
boxerfred[1]:boxerfred
Vivax[2]:Holyflare,Calix




Regfan is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

[/QUOTE

]

Excuse me but I havent voted?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 23:09 GMT
#425
Sharing info about one self is not indicative if someone or mafia tbh.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 03:00 GMT
#438
Ok I have time now

Btw I hope slenderman had posted because if not I am gonna feel dissapointed.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 03:48 GMT
#441
***** Calix *****

Let’s start with post 61 of this game.

He calls that Gemma/Reg post was
- premade -
- before the game -

Idk, it is so strange to me that he “excused” them
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.



Then it is funny at post #172 Calix quotes conversion why him is voting for HF (at the moment I think I was saying that HF looked mafia) and his answer is this “Because I can but now I have changed my mind and I am voting copcake”

So I need TL people here, is Calix able to vote HF as a joke? Just gor the lols for the sale of it or not? I need to check the time exactly when did he vote or why conversion made that post. I havent checked the voting thread but if there is a post of Calix voting for HF while HF was getting questioned then I need to know what changed his mind if it wasnt a joke? I mean it took Calix time to change his vote on me.

Then there is his case on the same post about me.

On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 11:46 Conversion wrote:
@Calix explain why you are on the glorious train to victory by voting Holyflare


Because I can. But I've changed my mind.

##Vote: CopCake

Two reasons for this:

1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things.

2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine.

I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this:

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 10:31 CopCake wrote:
Also rayn I wouldnt take that post seriously (the huge lne) someone also said it is a copy paste?

Like he probably tried to be funny but failed, I mean no mafia would put effort to say “hey I am a seer?” When there is a real one so yeah.


This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.

A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2018 10:44 CopCake wrote:
He had the same thinking process as me

- I have free time but no one will do shit
- Actually I will try to do work
- Oh look, a silly post by regfan, it is the more interesting shit but is not worth.

On June 26 2018 11:53 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 11:45 Conversion wrote:
On June 26 2018 10:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbh i was about to say ticktock seemed townie lol same with conversion.

I have problems with the big post, from regfan and how people reacted to it. I read it (well skimmed) and I was like “Literally that is fake for the little time”, seemed more of a dumb post/meme thing if everything.


I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you?


I literally touch my screen, close my eyes and try to read your aura.

Yours is green.

On June 26 2018 12:20 CopCake wrote:
Nah, Mocsta question about why I asked that makes a lot of sense. It doesnt bother me at all, in fact it is pretty townie.

On June 26 2018 12:28 CopCake wrote:
Yeah it leans mafia, well not exactly how different gemma/reg are but the mini case of you seemed out of place.

I do think your question was reasonable from someone who doesnt know how close rayn and me are ^^ so dont worry there.


Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 12:29 CopCake wrote:
Like the person I want to put pressure is HF, Slenderman and let me see who else is inactive

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 12:30 CopCake wrote:
Koshi, Vivax and Boxer


I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people.

In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town.




In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie.

Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda.

I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread.


1.- Cake is mafia because she makes stupid questioooonsss
2.- She makes many mistaked.

For me it looks he took advantage of me confusing him with conversion but whateves, the important part here is the bolded part.

“Rayn is calling me mafia but instead of clearing myself I am making a case of cake that I got out of nowhere”

If your vote at HF, once again, happened when I called him mafia or suspicious, then it makes no sense or little sense that you started to suspect but instead took an opportunity when I made a mistake to get heat on me and had rayn to look somewhere else.

Calix considers me also mafia even if I have the same read at mostcs, who got suspicious by everyone because of his question to me about rayn.

Let us not forget that his red part is what made him so suspicious of me, like he gave regfan/gemma space to be and not call them mafia at all for a premade post but me trying to think that maybe they are not mafia for a meme means then he in the beginning believed that regfan’s/gemma’s post was scummy, and if he believed that... why doesnt he called it out.

Wow so many conclusion I have gotten just filtering this post Lmao feeling confident of calling you mafia now but let’s move on to next posts.

- In post #177 Calix says I am mafia because I havent done any magia read because as mafia is harder to fabricate evidence for a town but literally, once again, my suspicious was on HF and if you voted for him not for the lols then...

I also have problems how Calix is forcing me in post #177 to vote for someone.

Post #187 and #189 seems like you were joking on the HF vote.

Post #212 you dont care about my old games, your read on me is because of this game and you dont care what other players have to say about me or what they know about my “meta” but hey 👋 you ask me about how I play, my last games with HF, etc. It seems that info is irrelevant to you or what others have to say, because it doesnt matter, in your eyes I am mafia because I mistook conversion for you and because I make stupid questions 😦

Post #214 Calix on suicide watch because his probably mafia buddy regfan made a very mafiaish post that even Gemma said so 😂

On June 26 2018 22:09 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:05 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:02 Regfan wrote:
On June 26 2018 20:10 Calix wrote:
I don't care about what kitaman did last game. I'm not kitaman nor am I scum.

On June 26 2018 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.

If the underlined part is really what Calix believes, there is no reason to assume a mafia fakecliming to be a cop would not believe they don't have a N0 check (since that's how it clearly works where Gemma usually plays, and there are indications of that for anyone whop has ever played anywhere else since it's almost always how it works).

So instead of writing the post off as non-alignment indicative any smart person -- again, believing what Calix clearly implies here -- would try to possibly catch a mafia in a lie by asking "so why don't you wanna claim your check now?"

Calix has struck me as a player who digs into stuff and small discrepancies even when they possibly don't matter (especially in the game where i was mafia with bugs and oats), and this "ignorance" towards a possibly revealing discussion seems very un-Calix-like.


So you say that I missed the possibility that mafia didn't read the OP and didn't know about the cop.

Then say that "any smart person" (important qualifier that reveals you're not calling me mafia, just stupid) would have asked some questions instead of concluding it meant nothing.

Then you make a very weak meta read that you're not really qualified to make.

Forgive me if I'm not wowed by your analysis. I'm more convinced you're taking shots at me yet again as opposed to thinking you believe any of this makes me scum.

I guess if Calix has a stronger wolf game then this post isn't something I would townread. I could be reading him on too low of a level.

The reason I thought this was town was because I don't really think that's how wolves talk to people scumreading them very often. Like, there's discrediting the person pushing on you when you're mafia, and there's saying "I don't believe your scumread on me is real", and it takes two different breeds of wolves.
lol this is the post that made me solidfy my read on calix vs cupcake

Mainky because of how calix broke out of character to address rayn
The tone is so different.. somewhat fearful compared to with ubk own cupcake
I.e. hamming up aggression out of fear


Did this guy who has literally never seen me play before just say that me being 'aggressive' is out of character? JFC.

If I'm your scum-read then why aren't you trying to talk TO me here? I'm literally right here in the thread with you and you don't seem to give a shit.


This post is a jewel. Like before Calix was like “I dont care if rayn thinks I am mafia because I have a good case on cake” but his town read Mocca calls him out and he rages 🤗 so now Calix... do you care or not if people call you mafia? 👀 I mean you said you dont need to deffend yourself when you have a good case, right?


On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.

Ask me again in an hour...

Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do.
hf

Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny


But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me.


Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious.


Are you here calling here HF mafia? Because he is focusing too much on TT , I mean... if you called me mafia for notnhabing reads or for not pushing people I suppose you think HF is mafia. Just an “educated guess”

On June 26 2018 22:57 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:38 Calidad x wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.

Ask me again in an hour...

Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do.
hf

Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny


But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me.


Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious.


I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it.

Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing.

Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.

No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak.


Why am I scummy exactly?

I agree Vivax's post is bad.

And how so re: Conversion?


I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person.

You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out.


How would I know CopCake is 'confusing'? I have no knowledge of her play.

With this in mind, I can't see how you concluded what you did. Especially the part about me caring how I look.


And here you say that you dont care about my meta or rayn’s post but if HF says it then is ok.

I am done with this shit and filtering you, it is full of lies and conteadictions.

Obvious mafia is obvious.


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 03:52 GMT
#443
On June 27 2018 12:50 Tictock wrote:
I am removing Mocsta from my town pool, until further notice.

That is all.


Elaborate?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 03:58 GMT
#445
Also @slendy @rayn read Calix filter and my post up here.

Since I know you love me and respect me <3 you will take the effort to try to understand my point of view here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 04:07 GMT
#446
Rip game died when I am active.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 27 2018 04:21 GMT
#448
Well, Calix is your lock mafia and your case was poor in that mini case you did.
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