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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2018 10:10 GMT
#1287
Everybody loves me because I am special.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2018 10:15 GMT
#1288
I'll check tonight back in. Hopefully Slender comes and play some. Need to know how modkills work this game. I'll check it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2018 10:18 GMT
#1291
Cool cool.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2018 22:29 GMT
#1477
Add another 7ish pages I didnt read.
Belgium won with 10 new players. Now we are in the hard bracket and dont play 3 times in the finals stadium. Sucks but w.e

We met another Belgian couple here and we spend our time playing "bullshit" till we go to bed so I cant even pretend I am following this.

Tommorow we go visit the caves here and go spot dolphins.

Live is beautiful.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 28 2018 22:30 GMT
#1478
gn all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 29 2018 19:55 GMT
#1751
On June 29 2018 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Koshi can technically be mafia too, after i switched to TT Koshi came in and "betrayed me". I can't be sure if that would have been the case with his Calix vote too as i don't find it too unlike he could have voted for his scumbuddy just to "re-evaluate later" since no reason given other than sheep rayn. I am not entirely sure if i believe Koshi "doesn't read anything just sheep rayn" but some point he then comes in and suddenly is interested in what's going on. 50/50 imo.

Koshi, do something. This is actually bad.

Not sure what is bad but I will tell what happened:
- Sheep rayn because why not.
- Come in from time to time and read last 2 pages. Or 3 or 5 depending on time.
- Can't be bothered to read deeply into wall of texts because I dont find mafia in those. My brain doesnt absorb that.
- I think I chain filter dived. First you or somebody else then vivax, then HF and then TT.
- Found TT filter okish.
- Filter dived Shockey and decided to vote him because I can.

The end.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 29 2018 20:01 GMT
#1752
Playing Port Royal with new friends. I'll play tonight.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 29 2018 23:38 GMT
#1782
On June 30 2018 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 30 2018 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Playing Port Royal with new friends. I'll play tonight.

Take 3. Tomorrow if no game and play you ďie.

Sad days.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:10 GMT
#1817
On June 28 2018 23:44 Conversion wrote:
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On June 28 2018 23:43 Holyflare wrote:
I just find it funny you all lynched bf :D


I hope Belgium gives England a good thrashing today

I think you are lock town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:17 GMT
#1825
I am reading filters guys. But I cant wrap my brain around them. Well so far only did conversion and last 3 pages of rayn.

My call on comversion is that he is a little fucker this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:19 GMT
#1826
On June 30 2018 19:17 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 30 2018 17:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Please do not discuss out of game PM's during the game


If they are in game PMs they should both be modkilled thanks. Please pm them individually.

Good stuff hf. Mod says out of game. You say if ingame..
Smart
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:19 GMT
#1827
You prople never fail to entrttain.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:22 GMT
#1833
On June 29 2018 01:33 Calix wrote:
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On June 29 2018 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Likely or not, the boxerfred’s wagon is wrong and bad.

There were 3 people to be lynched

Calix
Shotckey
TT

If any of these got lynched we would have learned A LOT of info.

Why an inactive like boxerfred?

Why not someone you consider scum? Calix?


You missed me yelling at people to lynch ShoCkeyy for almost the entirety of EOD, giving several reasons for him being mafia, convincing Vivax to vote for him, trying to convince Conversion to vote for him and only succeeding at the last fucking second, getting pissed off at Mocsta and TT for voting off ShoCkeyy for ??? reasons? Then I only voted for Boxerfred at the last second because I thought TT was going to die and I was not letting that happen.

And you think I didn't try hard enough?????????????????

REALLY?

Is all of this true?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:26 GMT
#1839
On June 29 2018 16:40 Calix wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy

This guy still needs to die.

I didn't like Mocsta vs CopCake, something seemed 'off' there to me.

I don't think Conversion is mafia. But he does seem to be keeping a low profile and when reading the thread in chronological order, many of his posts are the "pop in, say something while other stuff is going on and pop back out again" variety. So I'm going to look at his filter before work. I have about an hour right now.

This day cycle sucks hard for me because I have two 12-hour shifts so I will be really tired and not want to do anything. But I will try to filter Mocsta when I get back from work as well unless he does something RLY TOWNIE.

P.S: If anyone makes a case against me then may I politely request you add a 'tl;dr' to make my life easier? Thank you.

Going to assume shockey vs Calix is not the hardest buss in mafia hostory.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:30 GMT
#1843
On June 29 2018 17:34 Calix wrote:
Conversion.

I am now convinced this guy is scum with ShoCkeyy and you can see this through how his TT read progresses. Keep in mind that, from Conversion's POV, TT was the only viable alternative to ShoCkeyy for most of EOD because Conversion had stated a "Vivax/ Calix are probably not mafia" read on me previously.

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On June 27 2018 05:16 Conversion wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:18 Calix wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote:
I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play.

Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose.

Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over


I think you make a decent point with Reg. I was town-reading that slot because we had similar-ish reads at around the same time and they're producing a lot of content. But I can also see your argument where they don't say much that's scummy in isolation but you also can't say what they're trying to accomplish this game. It's not something I want to bet a D1 lynch on though.

I'm a bit skeptical about how I'm reading people because (now I've started to actually filter people and play the game) there's nothing that scummy about most of the active players and I kinda doubt that ALL the mafia are inactive.

On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way


Why?


Yeah, hence I don't really want to lynch him today.

Why I don't like it is I don't see town motivation in trying to soft that you are unlynchable for whatever reason. Just bleed green through your play, not trying to bait mafia shots. I'm pretty sure I historically found it scummy when someone tries to draw mafia shot by vague nonsense like that.


Starts here when, after saying he needs to reread TT, says that he 'doesn't see town motivation' in softing that you're unlynchable. I find the highlighted part...very questionable. It reads like he's using reasoning he knows he's used in the past to scum-read TT without actually believing in it.

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On June 27 2018 21:14 Conversion wrote:
On June 27 2018 19:28 Regfan wrote:
Really difficult to actually get a read on Conversion here since his HF push/scum-read looks to be entirely based on some OGI-esque type grudge or a joke-push that he's just maintained for the sheer majority of the day phase. It has scum motivation in that they can hide behind a push that can easily be chalked up as less alignment indicative but ultimately neither of those things feel out of the question for a TL player to do as town. There's other reads/thoughts inside his ISO, some I can sort of follow, others I can't, really though, not a lot to actually get a solidish read on anywhere there.

@Conversion - 1) Can you please just run through where your concern with HF stems from; what's he done here or previously that makes you think he's a worthy policy lynch type player? Can you also try and pull away from your issues with him as a person/player and run through what you think of his alignment in this game 2) How'd your dive into TT go, wouldn't mind you running through your stance on Vivax a little more for me, in #373, you mention you don't really think either him or Calix is mafia, I can follow your reasoning for not thinking they're a scum team there but I don't really see much more to it and removing him and throwing Shockwave/Koshi as your lynch pool feels fairly lazy.

- R


1) I'm not actually being serious about HF. He sounds town, doesn't like TT like me. Overall his play is unimpressive to me so far

2) After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that. That lynch pool was a gun to my head if I were to vote on people. I still don't think there's a mafia in Vivax/Calix, but I may be wrong.

If I'm going by PoE, you and rayn are not lynches today. Mocsta/HF/Cop are my town reads. Shockeyy/Vivax/Calix/Koshi

My Vivax read is more of a gut feel as he hasn't posted enough to form any read to me. I do actively question people who scum read him and Calix together as that makes almost 0% sense in my books


Note the bolded part. He says that TT's 'unlynchable' thing isn't actually scummy after giving it some thought and TT isn't in his list of targets.

(as a side note, he 'actively questions' Vivax/ Calix believers but thinks rayn is LIKE RLY TOWNIE. Vivax calls him out here but Conversion seems to misinterpret what Vivax was saying entirely and I'm not sure whether Conversion ever actually responded to this point)

He goes on to rhetorically asks whether ShoCkeyy's dumb tell is fake. (implies ShoCkeyy is mafia otherwise why would you ever say this?) and soft-defends ShoCkeyy using meta (says he always finds ShoCkeyy makes posts that are 'never town'). It's not clear what his ShoCkeyy read is since he never makes it explicit.

Then THIS happens:

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On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.

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On June 28 2018 02:33 Conversion wrote:
The thing about TT is that he has a thread presence but refuses to address direct concerns by specific people? He also keeps townleaning/townreading me through others, but never discusses anything with me.. bizarre!


This 'case' is atrocious. Conversion said earlier that he changed his mind on the 'unlynchable' part because he didn't think mafia would do that on D1. But WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER, he uses it as a reason to scum-read TT again!!! This looks like he's flinging shit against TT.

Bonus points for defending ShoCkeyy and jumping on one of the counterwagons to him for horrible reasoning.

Double bonus points because, when he uses that meta to defend ShoCkeyy, I showed him why that didn't make ShoCkeyy town this game. And he brushed it off because "I don't like comparing playstyles too much" (why would you use it as a reason for me to not think he's mafia then?)

Triple bonus points because he somehow found TT not voting to save himself scummy???

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:52 Conversion wrote:
Otherwise I'm sticking to TT. No way town!TT doesn't vote Shock here after scumreading him and having a chance to get him lynched over himself.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:54 Conversion wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:53 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:52 Conversion wrote:
Otherwise I'm sticking to TT. No way town!TT doesn't vote Shock here after scumreading him and having a chance to get him lynched over himself.


So mafia!TT's brilliant plan is to kill himself?


On top of everything else, he is more likely to flip mafia than town. IF he is town he needs to fuck off with his emo TL mafia is trash garbage monologue he's doing and actually play to save himself on a scum read HE ACTUALLY HAS

win-win either way


Nowhere in these posts does he explain how TT's dumb martyring actually helps mafia. Probably because the only scenario where that would work is if TT/ ShoCkeyy is a scum team and then people might ask things like "why the fuck were you dithering with a ShoCkeyy vote?" and "why did you wait until it was too late to vote for ShoCkeyy?"

Now I did make a post on Conversion's EOD before. But I only looked at a small part of his filter. When I looked from page 1 like I did now, his EOD looks way worse because of that TT progression.

Conversion/ ShoCkeyy/ ??? FTW

Holy fuck what an unflipped association case. Why do you write this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:31 GMT
#1845
Can you summarize this case and remove everything that has something to do with shockey?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:34 GMT
#1848
On June 30 2018 07:26 Calix wrote:
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On June 30 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote:
yeah nah I'm going to have you die first


Alright. You got lucky that you rolled scum in a game where people are having more mental breakdowns than you've accomplished in your entire mafia career.

LOL. Entire game of little fuckers
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:41 GMT
#1849
On June 30 2018 19:32 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 19:31 Koshi wrote:
Can you summarize this case and remove everything that has something to do with shockey?


I literally wrote a tl;dr of why I wrote the case in the first place.

Namely the TT progression.

Didnt read tldr but will.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:50 GMT
#1851
On June 29 2018 17:42 Calix wrote:
For the people who are short on time, here's a TL;DR of what convinced me to write a giant wall-post in the first place:

Show nested quote +
Why I don't like it is I don't see town motivation in trying to soft that you are unlynchable for whatever reason. Just bleed green through your play, not trying to bait mafia shots. I'm pretty sure I historically found it scummy when someone tries to draw mafia shot by vague nonsense like that.

Show nested quote +
After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that.

Show nested quote +
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together


Essentially he changed his mind on TT and uses a reason that he already said didn't make TT mafia.

This looks like shit on shit. Conversion said retardedthings. And you piled on on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2018 10:54 GMT
#1853
On June 30 2018 19:49 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

Do you have a read on calix after that case

And where do you stand on shockeey

Gimme time. I am discussing the book sapiens with gf while reading this. Brain overload.

I think I can vote Calix after reading filter last 3 pages. Not convinced on Shockey or Conversion being mafia based on her filter alone. And I can sense when somebody is mafia from somebody else their filter
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