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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:14 GMT
#2012
On July 01 2018 05:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2018 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention:

On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you


Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey?


On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster.


If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530

On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".

It stars with Calix here:

On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.

What up peeps


Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz?


What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it.

here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix.
On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao

Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^

Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).

Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.

Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.

In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff.


Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax"
On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.

I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.

Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.

Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).

I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.


Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town...


My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126

On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.

And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright.


One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town.

On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed.


I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town.

In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something.

I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games.

Just two examples off the top of my head.


But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379


On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.


So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone.

On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf.


Thoughts?


Why the fuck would you lynch me based off of this?


Because why would you claim conversion is mafia, or bf is mafia other than you already know their roles....


Oh, I don't know, probably because conversion has said the bf wagon is shit and tt is mafia about 8 times but then miraculously voted you at deadline to save bf instead of getting people to vote ticktock his mafia read????

I genuinely thought you were the lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:16 GMT
#2015
The only reason for you to think calix was mafia after the votes last night was if tt was mafia. She effectively saved you to save tt by voting a lynch that would make her look really bad. Why would she do that if you are town shockeyy?

Why would I not vote you myself if I am mafia with calix and tt is town? Why do I not vote tt or you and get free modkill kills?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:16 GMT
#2016
On July 01 2018 05:15 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone just blind to good cases or something? Not one of you have even acknowledged this mocsta post.



I read it but not properly. It was not bad at first glance. His vote on you is not what you’d expect and it’s weird for him to sheep CopCake.

Still think ShoCkeyy is better tho.

Do you disagree?


We lynch mocsta or I switch my vote to lynching you. Your choice.

Slenderman is a good alternative.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:18 GMT
#2017
If copcake or mocsta (or anyone with me in their scum teams) can succinctly say why I am mafia that would be good thanks. I'm somehow one of the leading wagons with 0 words written about me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:19 GMT
#2019
On July 01 2018 05:19 CopCake wrote:
The problem here is that, if I noticed correctly, if there is a tie, the first one that got the most votes is the one that gets lynched.


So vote mocsta or slenderman.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:21 GMT
#2021
I'll give people cookies for voting mocsta
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:21 GMT
#2023
How about reading my post? It's very easy quick 15 summaries
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:25 GMT
#2026
Depends where your vote ends up shockeyy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:26 GMT
#2028
Also calix's. She says the mocsta post is good but hasn't looked in depth or voted on it.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:33 GMT
#2031
On July 01 2018 05:25 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
If copcake or mocsta (or anyone with me in their scum teams) can succinctly say why I am mafia that would be good thanks. I'm somehow one of the leading wagons with 0 words written about me.


- You haven't done anything
- I agree with your case of Motsca because he is one of my mafia reads, because the theory of the vote count fits pretty well, but even if motsca is mafia it doesn't clear you 100%. I need someone who had played with mafiaholyflare! to know if you are able to sacrifice a mate for the sake to win towncred.
- Why did you just started to write cases when you felt the knife next to you? I have seen others doing cases with no knife.
- When Rayn asked you "who are your reads?" you had absolutely no idea. It is strange, it is weird, I can't see a TownHF being like that, in the limbo.
- I don't like how you changed your read on Calix. Why don't you look at her filter? It is terrible. Who are her scum reads? Me?, Rayn? killing inactives? whoever is inactive?

I can see a townHF, there is a small alternative, that mafia took advantage of your silly BF wagon BUT, the fact you haven't raged at Calix for following you screams you are mafia to me.


I did a lot day 1. I didn't have motivation day 2 to do anything. I'm busy and I don't want to commit to a read when I can't fully say I've pieced it together in my mind. That never makes me mafia. I always have a drive for the next mislynch.

Of course I can bus a team mate to look good but I don't generally do it unless they are under suspicion and I want the credit. I don't need the credit and I cased him because his vote on me makes no sense.

I just started to write cases now because I have you and mocsta putting me as the lead wagon with 0 content as to why I'm mafia. Mocsta especially called me town just a few posts before he voted me.

When rayn asked me for my reads I was not comfortable with any of my reads. I thought tt and calix were pretty townie for eod but the more people kept disagreeing with me the more I sacrificed my own read for their uncertainty. Rayn especially telling me tt wasn't town was off putting. Me not reading throughly and people telling me I'm wrong is not a good combo. I still haven't read, I'm purely basing this off of mocsta's recent posting spree.

I haven't read a single filter this game other than Mocsta's just now. Maybe her filter is bad. If it is why are you voting me and not calix? I'm going purely by her eod where she had no need to look bad voting bf to save tt as mafia if shockeyy is town. You think shockeyy is town so calix's eod should be quite townie to you. It's the same reasoning as "why would conversion switch to shockeyy" but you're not applying it to calix switching to bf.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:34 GMT
#2033
On July 01 2018 05:31 CopCake wrote:
I mean, for your actions they lead me to think Calix is your 100% town read.


I don't read calix one way or the other currently. At a stretch I think her posts are a bit townie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:35 GMT
#2034
On July 01 2018 05:34 CopCake wrote:
There is also just ONE Universe, I considered it yesterday when Calix was like "Pls think of your actions" and after motsca called me annoying? but I think that if you are town and being a victim of frame you would have noticed it already, that is why I didnt share nor I plan to share because I would give mafia the weapon to clear themselves.


What do you mean by this?

Am I imagining things or did Mocsta say in this game you didn't look townie and he wasn't sheeping your cases?

Why is he sheeping you on me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:53 GMT
#2040
On July 01 2018 05:40 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2018 05:25 CopCake wrote:
On July 01 2018 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
If copcake or mocsta (or anyone with me in their scum teams) can succinctly say why I am mafia that would be good thanks. I'm somehow one of the leading wagons with 0 words written about me.


- You haven't done anything
- I agree with your case of Motsca because he is one of my mafia reads, because the theory of the vote count fits pretty well, but even if motsca is mafia it doesn't clear you 100%. I need someone who had played with mafiaholyflare! to know if you are able to sacrifice a mate for the sake to win towncred.
- Why did you just started to write cases when you felt the knife next to you? I have seen others doing cases with no knife.
- When Rayn asked you "who are your reads?" you had absolutely no idea. It is strange, it is weird, I can't see a TownHF being like that, in the limbo.
- I don't like how you changed your read on Calix. Why don't you look at her filter? It is terrible. Who are her scum reads? Me?, Rayn? killing inactives? whoever is inactive?

I can see a townHF, there is a small alternative, that mafia took advantage of your silly BF wagon BUT, the fact you haven't raged at Calix for following you screams you are mafia to me.


I did a lot day 1. I didn't have motivation day 2 to do anything. I'm busy and I don't want to commit to a read when I can't fully say I've pieced it together in my mind. That never makes me mafia. I always have a drive for the next mislynch.

Of course I can bus a team mate to look good but I don't generally do it unless they are under suspicion and I want the credit. I don't need the credit and I cased him because his vote on me makes no sense.

I just started to write cases now because I have you and mocsta putting me as the lead wagon with 0 content as to why I'm mafia. Mocsta especially called me town just a few posts before he voted me.

When rayn asked me for my reads I was not comfortable with any of my reads. I thought tt and calix were pretty townie for eod but the more people kept disagreeing with me the more I sacrificed my own read for their uncertainty. Rayn especially telling me tt wasn't town was off putting. Me not reading throughly and people telling me I'm wrong is not a good combo. I still haven't read, I'm purely basing this off of mocsta's recent posting spree.

I haven't read a single filter this game other than Mocsta's just now. Maybe her filter is bad. If it is why are you voting me and not calix? I'm going purely by her eod where she had no need to look bad voting bf to save tt as mafia if shockeyy is town. You think shockeyy is town so calix's eod should be quite townie to you. It's the same reasoning as "why would conversion switch to shockeyy" but you're not applying it to calix switching to bf.


Shockey flipping town leads to lynch Calix next phase because there was no context on "why to lynch him"

Shockey wasn't leading either, it was TT.
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count





Tictock[4]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[2]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Mocsta, Koshi
Calix[1]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[1]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[1]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock


Tictock is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

PM us if you see a mistake.


Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.




Shockeyy flipping town does in no way, shape or form lead to calix being mafia nor does it mean she gets lynched next cycle. Just because shockey had two votes in that vote count doesn't mean he wouldn't be lynched either.

Vivax/calix/tt/kind of myself/mocsta/koshi/conversion etc were all comfortable lynching shockey if push came to shove and if you look at the votes in between the vote counts you'll see everyone switching back and forth off of shockey.

If you think shockey is town you must undoubtedly think I am town because I effectively held the game hostage by telling everyone to vote bf instead of shockeyy. So why do you not think that?

Furthermore, I don't agree with your point that there was no context to lynch shockey. I think there was ample context to lynch him. Calix had made cases on him, people had agreed he looked scummy. To say there was no context is very much wrong.

When you look at the above fact, that there was ample reason to lynch shockey, that if just one more person voted him he'd be dead and that tt was town (and you think Shockeyy is town) why is it your conclusion that a mafia calix would vote an out of context boxerfred lynch who was likely gonna be modkilled to save a townie that has been typing all game instead of her scum read? It's much more simple to think she just really thought tt was town and putting effort in and wanted to save her town read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 20:54 GMT
#2042
On July 01 2018 05:48 CopCake wrote:
Tictock[4]:Holyflare, Vivax,Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[3]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[4]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
[B]raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock

This is how it would have looked the vote count. I think, @Conversion @Rayn check me this.

TT would have been lynched, he would flip town and that would give you town credibility Calix.




The only reason shockeyy was not lynched is because conversion decided to un scumread tt too late and tt didn't give a shit to save himself until last second and someone else did something.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:02 GMT
#2045
On July 01 2018 05:58 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:54 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2018 05:48 CopCake wrote:
Tictock[4]:Holyflare, Vivax,Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[3]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[4]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock

This is how it would have looked the vote count. I think, @Conversion @Rayn check me this.

TT would have been lynched, he would flip town and that would give you town credibility Calix.




The only reason shockeyy was not lynched is because conversion decided to un scumread tt too late and tt didn't give a shit to save himself until last second and someone else did something.


but shockey got two votes at the end.

If you notice, the final is:
Show nested quote +
[B]On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


Conversion didnt try to save Shockey, Shockey and TT were his scum reads.


I didn't say conversion tried to save shockey.

Your argument is something about calix having no context to lynch shockeyy.

What is the context for your town read conversion to vote shockeyy?
What is the context for confirmed town tt to vote shockeyy?
What is the context for confirmed town regfan to vote shockeyy?
What is the context for maybe town koshi to vote shockeyy?

If tt had voted shockeyy to begin with instead of last minute none of the bf votes would have occured because they were ALL (even me kind of) to save tt. Shockeyy would be dead.

Why does the argument that there was no reason to vote shockeyy only apply to calix and not the actual people that voted shockeyy? Why are you selectively choosing when to use this argument?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:05 GMT
#2047
On July 01 2018 06:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
HF, let's say I vote Mocsta based off your read on page 100, and he flips red, who are your other associated members? Copcake, I can't recall, but what is your read on Mocsta again?


I'll work it out after the flip. Or at least people's reactions surrounding the lynch.

Tell me if you disagree with anything I wrote. Also please follow up on your accusation on me and why what I countered it with sways you one way or another to my alignment. I don't want you to keep me as a mafia read in your back pocket that you wildly fling out when I'm most vulnerable so if I can get rid of your excuses for scum reading me now that would be great thanks.

I think slender will be a mafia modkill though because he hadn't voted.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:06 GMT
#2048
On July 01 2018 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax

In all honesty, there has to at least be one or two mafia members here. Easy mislynch of a town. How quick was mocsta jumping on board with this bus?


There doesn't have to be any mafia here at all because if you are town and tt is town why do mafia go out of their way to lynch a modkill able guy?

Such bad argumentation used by like 3 people now.

If you are town why don't they all just jump on you? Or tt?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:10 GMT
#2049
Good case on mocsta.

0 votes on mocsta.

Give reasons.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:19 GMT
#2052
On July 01 2018 06:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Or in all honesty, you saved me by starting the BF bus.


So why on earth am I ever a consideration to be mafia?

Also everyone on the bf wagon saved you because you were 1 vote away from dying.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 21:23 GMT
#2053
Also I've just noticed all these vote counts people have been linking are incredibly wrong in the vote thread. Vivax was still voting shockey but his name was crossed off. Koshi on twice. Many votes not counted properly.

Makes people's analysis very wrong.
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