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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:01 GMT
#2326
Slenderman and CopCake are NOT the same alignment.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:20 GMT
#2330
I was about to post about the no-kill making zero sense if rayn is doc because why wouldn't you kill or roleblock the claimed medic dude? But if you're legit then that part is explained.

This MYLO should be a bit easier with all these plot twists in the thread.

##vote Slenderman

Always lynching within these two first.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:25 GMT
#2337
On July 02 2018 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
And I think slenderman and copcake are absolutely terrible fake checks to make lol


Are you saying Koshi/ Calix are on the same scum team and just decided to claim two blue roles in a game with at least one legit blue role?

Because that's how this reads to me.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:35 GMT
#2356
I checked CopCake N1 because I found her hard to read and wanted something that would give me a more definitive idea of her alignment.

I checked Slender N2 because I didn't want to bring an AFK into LYLO while knowing absolutely nothing about what his alignment might be.

I didn't put that much thought into who I checked though, lol. But I think checking people who you're unsure about is sound.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:37 GMT
#2358
And I only 'crumbed' once.

It was with that 'emotional' post where I basically said "don't lynch me today, lynch me on D3" (because I am cop and should hopefully have checks by then)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:40 GMT
#2361
On July 02 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:35 Calix wrote:
I checked CopCake N1 because I found her hard to read and wanted something that would give me a more definitive idea of her alignment.

I checked Slender N2 because I didn't want to bring an AFK into LYLO while knowing absolutely nothing about what his alignment might be.

I didn't put that much thought into who I checked though, lol. But I think checking people who you're unsure about is sound.


So why have you never checked shockeyy your biggest mafia read for all eternity?


Because I don't check mafia reads. I check question mark players.

When it comes to mafia reads, I prefer lynching them to wasting my cop checks on them.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:45 GMT
#2370
On July 02 2018 08:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:40 Calix wrote:
On July 02 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
On July 02 2018 08:35 Calix wrote:
I checked CopCake N1 because I found her hard to read and wanted something that would give me a more definitive idea of her alignment.

I checked Slender N2 because I didn't want to bring an AFK into LYLO while knowing absolutely nothing about what his alignment might be.

I didn't put that much thought into who I checked though, lol. But I think checking people who you're unsure about is sound.


So why have you never checked shockeyy your biggest mafia read for all eternity?


Because I don't check mafia reads. I check question mark players.

When it comes to mafia reads, I prefer lynching them to wasting my cop checks on them.


But you're not a cop. You are a parity cop. If you check to question mark players and they return same how are you ever going to get their alignment?


By reading their posts with the new information in mind, duh. Either a same check result means they're both on a mafia team or they are both town. It's good information for world-building regardless.

You can keep nitpicking at my theory of how cop should play but it's not going to get you very far.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:46 GMT
#2372
CopCake, how have your reads changed given this new information? What are your thoughts on the claims? Which scenarios do you think are most likely right now? (BEFORE rayn gets in here)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:52 GMT
#2379
On July 02 2018 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
If I were mafia in mylo and I didn't have a rber I would know there is specifically one blue and rayn has claimed it. I would probably shoot rayn and claim parity cop on an afk guy that couldn't fight back to try and secure the game.

I think calix is very much like me.


I disagree with the conclusion for reasons not mentioned in this post.

You are also being inconsistent. First Koshi and I are both fake-claiming scummers (since you talked shit about both of us) but now you think Koshi is being legit and I'm the fake-claimer? Ok.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:59 GMT
#2382
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:10 GMT
#2387
On July 02 2018 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


If rayn says he is not a role does that confirm koshi as blue? If so, why?


Hm, that's one thing I missed. Because I can't think of anything that would 100% confirm him as blue since mafia can no-shoot. And it's either LYLO or MYLO so it's not the worst idea as mafia.

But mafia!Koshi would not have known that I would claim and, at the time, he wouldn't have known whether rayn was legitimate or not. Since he doesn't know that rayn is legit on N2, him choosing to no-shoot seems like it could backfire if rayn believes he 'saved' a town player. And doesn't have many upsides for him because rayn still claims medic and Koshi can't counter-claim and expect an advantage.

So I don't think he planned this claim very far in advance. And if he is mafia then a) I'm the only blue in the game (because otherwise he wouldn't counter rayn) and b) he must have claimed medic impulsively.

Thoughts? I am dead tired from a long day outside so my logic might suck, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:12 GMT
#2388
TL;DR: My thoughts are that Koshi/ Rayn are both town. Because the universe where Koshi is mafia seems too far-fetched for me.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:31 GMT
#2391
Fuck that. I'm going to bed.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 07:18 GMT
#2397
On July 02 2018 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Calix


I guess this means Koshi/ Rayn is in the clear.

Meaning mafia is one of Slenderman/ CopCake and two of ShoCkeyy/ HF/ Conversion.

My current guess is Slenderman/ ShoCkeyy/ Conversion for the mafia team but HF also very possible. I could be wrong on my CopCake read as well but I kinda doubt it.

However Rayn and CopCake are probably voting for me without considering that I am town so that’s GG.

With this in mind, I don’t know what to make of the fact that I’ve had some of the best reads out of everyone and have been relentlessly called mafia for it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 07:59 GMT
#2400
On July 02 2018 16:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Come on there is never cop!Calix who instantly just believes my claim, lets herself sit on four votes withouth doing anything on D2 and just afks after. Never.


I didn't 'instantly believe it', I said it would self-resolve.

I didn't 'AFK', I was at work and then was out for a lot of N2. Then I waited until a few minutes before EON to claim. Nothing to say there.

And I have a question. If I'm mafia...why wouldn't I just say "hey hey I checked my top two scum-reads ShoCkeyy and Conversion?".

Not only does that ""logically"" progress from my reads but ShoCkeyy is hardly posting so that fulfills the "push some AFK douchebag in LYLO" scenario that HF talked about.

Nobody thinks I'm on a mafia team with both ShoCkeyy and Conversion so you can't use the "you're protecting your team mates" argument either.

There's no reason why I wouldn't do that as scum so saying I'm mafia for not making those checks doesn't add up.

Have you ever considered that maybe I just have a different way of checking people from you guys? And that someone who doesn't conform to ""optimal"" strategy isn't necessarily mafia for doing that? I think my checks are fine and people calling me bad for making them aren't going to change my mind so don't bother.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 08:11 GMT
#2403
On July 02 2018 17:09 Holyflare wrote:
Shockey could be your teammate?


If you assume the mafia spent a considerable amount of their time fighting and voting for each other, suuuuure.

Or you can go for the considerably more sensible option of Conversion/ ShoCkeyy/ Slenderman which DOESN'T have NEXT LEVEL bussing required to make that team work ^^
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 08:15 GMT
#2404
On July 02 2018 17:11 Holyflare wrote:
I mean you could quite easily be on a mafia team with shockeyy and conversion.


Why do you keep responding to my points with these asinine comments? I don't think you believe this yourself because it's so mind-boggling dumb and "oh Calix was hardcore gunning for her team mates for pretty much the entire game" is not the first thing that pops into anyone's head ever.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 08:30 GMT
#2407
On July 02 2018 17:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 17:15 Calix wrote:
On July 02 2018 17:11 Holyflare wrote:
I mean you could quite easily be on a mafia team with shockeyy and conversion.


Why do you keep responding to my points with these asinine comments? I don't think you believe this yourself because it's so mind-boggling dumb and "oh Calix was hardcore gunning for her team mates for pretty much the entire game" is not the first thing that pops into anyone's head ever.


It's not the first thing traditionally, no. It is the first thing when someone explains if they were mafia they could have just cop checked their scum reads.


Because that team you're proposing requires a stupid and unnecessary level of bussing to make even a lick of sense.

Makes more sense that Slender "only posts once every day cycle to avoid mod-kill" man is mafia with ShoCkeyy/ Conversion here.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 11:52 GMT
#2410
On July 02 2018 20:51 Conversion wrote:
anyones one or two lf koshi calix rayn is lying so if I come around and believe Calix’s strategy I’m going straight to lynching Koshi


What are you even saying here?

Why can’t there be a world where all three of us are town? Lol
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 11:55 GMT
#2411
Also why the fuck would you lynch Koshi in a world where you think I’m legit? The hell kind of thought process is this.
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