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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 01 2018 23:54 GMT
#2381
On July 02 2018 08:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
If I were mafia in mylo and I didn't have a rber I would know there is specifically one blue and rayn has claimed it. I would probably shoot rayn and claim parity cop on an afk guy that couldn't fight back to try and secure the game.

I think calix is very much like me.


I disagree with the conclusion for reasons not mentioned in this post.

You are also being inconsistent. First Koshi and I are both fake-claiming scummers (since you talked shit about both of us) but now you think Koshi is being legit and I'm the fake-claimer? Ok.



I'm working through theories so of course it's inconsistent?

I thought cop was blue and rayn was blue so I thought you two were initially both fake claiming. Then cop said she wasn't blue so only one of you would be fake claiming (still possible both are if rayn sticks to being blue).
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 01 2018 23:59 GMT
#2382
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 02 2018 00:03 GMT
#2383
On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


If rayn says he is not a role does that confirm koshi as blue? If so, why?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 00:05 GMT
#2384
Tbh yesterday when HF told me to shut up about roles seemed very townie, and I was mafia I would kill the other person who claimed, which I am kinda wondering if there is just one role because town doesnt know the set up but if mafia get a role block they know the set up <~<
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 00:06 GMT
#2385
The problem is that

We lynch slenderman, and if he is town, tomorrow you lynh me and i am town...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 02 2018 00:07 GMT
#2386
There is no tomorrow if slenderman is town. That's why it's perfect for mafia to fake claim.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:10 GMT
#2387
On July 02 2018 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


If rayn says he is not a role does that confirm koshi as blue? If so, why?


Hm, that's one thing I missed. Because I can't think of anything that would 100% confirm him as blue since mafia can no-shoot. And it's either LYLO or MYLO so it's not the worst idea as mafia.

But mafia!Koshi would not have known that I would claim and, at the time, he wouldn't have known whether rayn was legitimate or not. Since he doesn't know that rayn is legit on N2, him choosing to no-shoot seems like it could backfire if rayn believes he 'saved' a town player. And doesn't have many upsides for him because rayn still claims medic and Koshi can't counter-claim and expect an advantage.

So I don't think he planned this claim very far in advance. And if he is mafia then a) I'm the only blue in the game (because otherwise he wouldn't counter rayn) and b) he must have claimed medic impulsively.

Thoughts? I am dead tired from a long day outside so my logic might suck, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:12 GMT
#2388
TL;DR: My thoughts are that Koshi/ Rayn are both town. Because the universe where Koshi is mafia seems too far-fetched for me.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 00:12 GMT
#2389
Tbh, the problem is that if slenderman is mafia I doubt he would leave his team mates alone because he is extremely nice
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 00:18 GMT
#2390
Ugh tbh let the calix vs HF start

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 00:31 GMT
#2391
Fuck that. I'm going to bed.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 00:40 GMT
#2392
wtf is going on
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 00:41 GMT
#2393
On July 02 2018 07:58 Calix wrote:
Hey hey, I am the parity cop who checked Copcake/ Slenderman.


There's no way someone who screams their head off about how mafia shockeyy is and how mafia I am makes these checks
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 02 2018 04:29 GMT
#2394
On July 02 2018 08:01 Calix wrote:
Slenderman and CopCake are NOT the same alignment.


Those "checks" are idiotic, If I were cop, I would of checked my first suspicion, you and tictock easily. It's like a blank statement trying to fish for responses...

On July 02 2018 08:37 Calix wrote:
And I only 'crumbed' once.

It was with that 'emotional' post where I basically said "don't lynch me today, lynch me on D3" (because I am cop and should hopefully have checks by then)


Can't even link post to where she crumbled, but Koshi immediately did.

On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


So now Calix is waiting for rayn confirmation that you might have fake claimed? In all honesty, Hf vs Calix is a situation I see most likely happening as well Conversion. If HF was vig, why not shoot calix as he did claim? Then you have copcake also trying to claim some type of role here.

On July 01 2018 11:31 CopCake wrote:
What if...

I am a role...



Like this all just makes it extremely confusing to even lynch some one... in all honesty if rayn claims too, which I know he crumbled as well, I will go mad. I'm not staying around any longer, this has been frustrating since the game started. I have a very important meeting tomorrow morning. GN.
Life?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 04:34 GMT
#2395
On July 02 2018 13:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:01 Calix wrote:
Slenderman and CopCake are NOT the same alignment.


Those "checks" are idiotic, If I were cop, I would of checked my first suspicion, you and tictock easily. It's like a blank statement trying to fish for responses...

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:37 Calix wrote:
And I only 'crumbed' once.

It was with that 'emotional' post where I basically said "don't lynch me today, lynch me on D3" (because I am cop and should hopefully have checks by then)


Can't even link post to where she crumbled, but Koshi immediately did.

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


So now Calix is waiting for rayn confirmation that you might have fake claimed? In all honesty, Hf vs Calix is a situation I see most likely happening as well Conversion. If HF was vig, why not shoot calix as he did claim? Then you have copcake also trying to claim some type of role here.

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 11:31 CopCake wrote:
What if...

I am a role...



Like this all just makes it extremely confusing to even lynch some one... in all honesty if rayn claims too, which I know he crumbled as well, I will go mad. I'm not staying around any longer, this has been frustrating since the game started. I have a very important meeting tomorrow morning. GN.


Rayn sometimes fake claims and I “claimed” or do “what ifs” if I see an opportunity to see info or get a reaction.

Either way I am happy with the result of Mexico’s wlwcgion so I am pretty much out.

Gn.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2018 06:35 GMT
#2396
##vote Calix
table for two on a tv tray
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 07:18 GMT
#2397
On July 02 2018 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Calix


I guess this means Koshi/ Rayn is in the clear.

Meaning mafia is one of Slenderman/ CopCake and two of ShoCkeyy/ HF/ Conversion.

My current guess is Slenderman/ ShoCkeyy/ Conversion for the mafia team but HF also very possible. I could be wrong on my CopCake read as well but I kinda doubt it.

However Rayn and CopCake are probably voting for me without considering that I am town so that’s GG.

With this in mind, I don’t know what to make of the fact that I’ve had some of the best reads out of everyone and have been relentlessly called mafia for it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2018 07:51 GMT
#2398
Come on there is never cop!Calix who instantly just believes my claim, lets herself sit on four votes withouth doing anything on D2 and just afks after. Never.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2018 07:52 GMT
#2399
Also the checks sond like a riduculous joke.
table for two on a tv tray
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 07:59 GMT
#2400
On July 02 2018 16:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Come on there is never cop!Calix who instantly just believes my claim, lets herself sit on four votes withouth doing anything on D2 and just afks after. Never.


I didn't 'instantly believe it', I said it would self-resolve.

I didn't 'AFK', I was at work and then was out for a lot of N2. Then I waited until a few minutes before EON to claim. Nothing to say there.

And I have a question. If I'm mafia...why wouldn't I just say "hey hey I checked my top two scum-reads ShoCkeyy and Conversion?".

Not only does that ""logically"" progress from my reads but ShoCkeyy is hardly posting so that fulfills the "push some AFK douchebag in LYLO" scenario that HF talked about.

Nobody thinks I'm on a mafia team with both ShoCkeyy and Conversion so you can't use the "you're protecting your team mates" argument either.

There's no reason why I wouldn't do that as scum so saying I'm mafia for not making those checks doesn't add up.

Have you ever considered that maybe I just have a different way of checking people from you guys? And that someone who doesn't conform to ""optimal"" strategy isn't necessarily mafia for doing that? I think my checks are fine and people calling me bad for making them aren't going to change my mind so don't bother.
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