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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:16 GMT
#1823
On June 30 2018 19:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 17:28 Calix wrote:
On June 30 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 16:47 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

You had no scum reads b4 tt was modkilled

Where are u now?


no scum reads

probably calix I guess


And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am?

Do not like.


Dunno really. Thread sentiment.


Actually, no, this isn't right. It's because of my earlier post cake linked about you defending tt when he wasn't even up for lynch.


But I already responded to that and you said my reactions were townie.

You can't revive a point you already beat into the ground earlier and claim it makes me mafia again.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:19 GMT
#1828
Let's not discuss host posts in the thread please. That's just making the hosts' job harder.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:21 GMT
#1831
On June 30 2018 19:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 19:16 Calix wrote:
On June 30 2018 19:15 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 17:28 Calix wrote:
On June 30 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 16:47 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

You had no scum reads b4 tt was modkilled

Where are u now?


no scum reads

probably calix I guess


And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am?

Do not like.


Dunno really. Thread sentiment.


Actually, no, this isn't right. It's because of my earlier post cake linked about you defending tt when he wasn't even up for lynch.


But I already responded to that and you said my reactions were townie.

You can't revive a point you already beat into the ground earlier and claim it makes me mafia again.


Of course I can. I do what I want. I think it's still a good point.

I'm willing to vote shockeyy or slender though instead of you.


Didn't you say Slender was probably town or some shit?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:24 GMT
#1836
On June 30 2018 19:22 Holyflare wrote:
No idea. If I did why does it matter? He's acknowledged the game and afkd now.


Because why would you want to lynch a town read over someone you think is mafia "coz thread sentiment"? Duh.

You said you'll put some effort in and you really should be doing that since we only have one lynch left but you're still fucking around. And if you say "I'll do it later" well then that's great but I won't be here later.

So can you stop shitting the bed and do something plz
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:26 GMT
#1840
On June 30 2018 19:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 01:33 Calix wrote:
On June 29 2018 01:29 CopCake wrote:
Likely or not, the boxerfred’s wagon is wrong and bad.

There were 3 people to be lynched

Calix
Shotckey
TT

If any of these got lynched we would have learned A LOT of info.

Why an inactive like boxerfred?

Why not someone you consider scum? Calix?


You missed me yelling at people to lynch ShoCkeyy for almost the entirety of EOD, giving several reasons for him being mafia, convincing Vivax to vote for him, trying to convince Conversion to vote for him and only succeeding at the last fucking second, getting pissed off at Mocsta and TT for voting off ShoCkeyy for ??? reasons? Then I only voted for Boxerfred at the last second because I thought TT was going to die and I was not letting that happen.

And you think I didn't try hard enough?????????????????

REALLY?

Is all of this true?


Yes. I'd say about 3-4 pages of my filter involves ShoCkeyy in some way.

He must feel flattered from all this attention from moi.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:32 GMT
#1847
On June 30 2018 19:31 Koshi wrote:
Can you summarize this case and remove everything that has something to do with shockey?


I literally wrote a tl;dr of why I wrote the case in the first place.

Namely the TT progression.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:56 GMT
#1854
On June 30 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
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On June 29 2018 17:42 Calix wrote:
For the people who are short on time, here's a TL;DR of what convinced me to write a giant wall-post in the first place:

Why I don't like it is I don't see town motivation in trying to soft that you are unlynchable for whatever reason. Just bleed green through your play, not trying to bait mafia shots. I'm pretty sure I historically found it scummy when someone tries to draw mafia shot by vague nonsense like that.

After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that.

Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together


Essentially he changed his mind on TT and uses a reason that he already said didn't make TT mafia.

This looks like shit on shit. Conversion said retardedthings. And you piled on on that.


His TT posts ARE terrible though and don't look like a townie with a legitimate scum read or progression on him. Check his filter for yourself and tell me he actually believes what he's saying about TT.

Go on, I'll wait.

In the meantime, I will draw more attention to this:

Why I don't like it is I don't see town motivation in trying to soft that you are unlynchable for whatever reason. Just bleed green through your play, not trying to bait mafia shots. I'm pretty sure I historically found it scummy when someone tries to draw mafia shot by vague nonsense like that.


To anyone reading this, think about why someone might want to add a sentence that says "I'm pretty sure I used this reasoning before to scum-read someone."
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 10:59 GMT
#1855
On June 30 2018 19:54 Koshi wrote:
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On June 30 2018 19:49 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

Do you have a read on calix after that case

And where do you stand on shockeey

Gimme time. I am discussing the book sapiens with gf while reading this. Brain overload.

I think I can vote Calix after reading filter last 3 pages. Not convinced on Shockey or Conversion being mafia based on her filter alone. And I can sense when somebody is mafia from somebody else their filter


You can magically tell ShoCkeyy and Conversion are town from my filter alone but you can't tell that I'm town? :L
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 12:18 GMT
#1864
I have to leave soon. I won't be back until ~1 hour before EOD. Since it's a weekend, there's no guarantee anyone will be around in the event that I am still the leading wagon. But I'll take that risk.

I switched my vote to ShoCkeyy in the meantime.

##vote ShoCkeyy

I would like to remind everyone that Conversion and ShoCkeyy have done almost NO game-solving this cycle.

Don't believe me? Lemme get into it.

ShoCkeyy's reads have not changed whatsoever. He responded to his main scum-read mod-killing himself with that hilarious "I don't believe the guy who posted his role PM is legit" post and then fucked off so he wouldn't have to put in any work.

Conversion also has very static reads and zero drive to do anything. After EOD1, he kept his HF/ TT scum-team. It's only when I pushed him that he magically saw the validity of rayn's points against me. Then his lynch pool changes to Koshi/ Calix/ HF/ Mocsta AND HE DOESN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHY HE THINKS SHOCKEYY IS TOWN.

Read this post and tell me that it makes sense for him to COMPLETELY ignore ShoCkeyy when it comes to his evaluations (most of which is filler). Oh wait:

My head right now is that there is at least one Mafia in this boxerfred nonsense. I'm thinking HF for even initiating it to begin with because the Light of God touched his brain 4 hours before EoD whatever and people followed, which is why I want him dead.

If the rest of the shenanigan wagon is pure, that means the team is HF +2. Mocsta has been doing nothing after he tried to catch up to 20 pages, and his reasoning for boxerfred switch was trash. You and Vivax may be the only two that have an actual reason to do so, and I'm not quite entirely convinced you did it 100% just to save Tictock either.

That makes Hf/Mocsta/Calix my pool since Vivax is dead.

Then we have everyone else. Rayn is town unless someone is going to counterclaim him for whatever reason. Slendy/Me/Copcake/Koshi. Koshi's on vacation or whatever, but mafia!Koshi doesn't play unless he's threatened. He tends to just seep into the background and have people ignore him. I honestly think Cop is town, and I know I'm town because I read my PM and I'm not illiterate

That leaves Hf/Mocsta/Calix/Koshi being my pool, and if you flip town whatever. I don't really want to waste my time trying to figure a game out when two people want to be babies and modkill themselves out when the pressure isn't even heavy and three people don't even play the game and forget they're even playing. Waste of my time.


What I'm saying is that they're reactive. They're not interested about digging into things, finding townies, narrowing down a POE, questioning people to find why they think what they do, etc. They're literally doing nothing and they're getting away with it!

If you don't see what I mean, compare what they're doing to what rayn (the medic dude) is doing. Even though Rayn's reads have not changed much, he still pokes and looks into things during the D2 cycle. Because rayn actually gives a fuck about the game and about finding the answers.

These two simply do NOT care.

Since I've done more game-solving than those two put together, leaving me alive to fight it out tomorrow makes more sense. Especially since I'll have more free time after today.

If you guys REALLY don't see that I'm town by that point then fine, I will accept that I royally fucked up somewhere. But until then, nah.

Anyway, break a leg and try not to fuck this one up.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 15:02 GMT
#1953
Found way to make internet at work but i am lone working so can’t post much.

On June 30 2018 23:32 Conversion wrote:
like if I was mafia why wouldn’t I just sit back and vote Shockeyy and push him as hard as possible? That’d be the easiest way to guarantee a mislynch and distance myself away from any other mafia in a scum!conversion town!shockeyy world


Why do you make WIFOM defences instead of explaining how you are town? You have still ignored my points.

I also did not like that post where you said you would not vote for someone because you were becoming a wagon or something like that. Too much focus on self preservation when EOD is still a while away.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 15:11 GMT
#1956
Also I think Koshi is making waves.

He could have easily lynched me and taken path of least resistance or simply agree with my ShoCkeyy read but he attacks CopCake and Conversion instead.

Thoughts?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 15:28 GMT
#1970
On July 01 2018 00:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m going to be unavailable soon until 1 hour to 30 minutes before EoD, which is why I’m stating how this game is going to go aince we have Koshi and HF on me and apparently they can type by bashing their head against a keyboard and people won’t lynch them. Calix you’re being way too stubborn when I’m trying to work with you on alternative lynches and I’m listening to Cop and Mocsta, but if you’re just going to push me until the end of day 2, we can fight until one of us flips. Your unwillingness to work with me and just paint me red is not something that’s giving me confidence that you are town.


I am not painting you. I have valid concerns with you and you ignore them and say I am painting you mafia.

I am not even voting for you, fool
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 15:29 GMT
#1971
On July 01 2018 00:25 Conversion wrote:
“Conversion is using WIFOM defense because he is stating why he would do x instead of y. Oh but Koshi is making waves because he could have done x instead of y. Thoughts?”

wtf lol


Okay this is actually a fair criticism, my bad.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 15:35 GMT
#1974
On July 01 2018 00:30 Conversion wrote:
The past two pages of your filter is quite literally 90% talking about how I’m scum. How is that not painting me red? You literally have a post where you red and bold my name as well


Because I am open to changing my mind if you do stuff.

You say you want to talk well let’s talk. I can’t do much right now but will try and hear you out. I am also home about 1 hour from EOD
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:10 GMT
#2006
You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.

That post was absolutely terrible.

Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:15 GMT
#2014
On July 01 2018 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone just blind to good cases or something? Not one of you have even acknowledged this mocsta post.



I read it but not properly. It was not bad at first glance. His vote on you is not what you’d expect and it’s weird for him to sheep CopCake.

Still think ShoCkeyy is better tho.

Do you disagree?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:20 GMT
#2020
On July 01 2018 05:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:10 Calix wrote:
You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.

That post was absolutely terrible.

Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me


How was it terrible? Because I caught you? Of course you would try to claim it's bad. You said my reads haven't changed, but I added HF and conversion into my reads which I've never done before, but you wouldn't know because you only can claim that I'm "mafia"...


You haven’t caught shit. Nothing you say about Vivax is even something I can respond to because ta NK analysis.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:22 GMT
#2024
On July 01 2018 05:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
There's no point on going slenderman on an AFK again... He might be modkilled since he might not even vote again this round... In all honesty, this was my response on Mocsta, which then after switched his vote to Calix after I kept hammering Calix.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 07:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So mocsta comes back, and within 5 mins already votes for me, cool, this guy reads... mafia qt.


I have no real opinion of him yet other than he's reading the last couple of pages, then playing from there...


No slender posted so he is not getting modded
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:27 GMT
#2029
On July 01 2018 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
Also calix's. She says the mocsta post is good but hasn't looked in depth or voted on it.



I’m working on a till so that’s why. Get home in 1-2 hours.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 30 2018 20:42 GMT
#2037
But I was trying to lynch ShoCkeyy for the entire time and only switched at the last minute? If TT or Conversion had switched earlier ShoCkeyy would be dead. Your argument that I deliberately left him alive is stupid.

I’ve said this to you about 5 times now and you still repeat this argument like I say nothing.
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