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On June 06 2018 19:01 Holyflare wrote: Nah sign up fuba, you were good. | ||
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I am pretty sure i am correct here. | ||
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I also dislike kitaman's reasoning on the vote, because if that's the only two things you can think of then well.. oh boy you're wrong and gonna be wrong a lot. That being said i don't know if it just a playstyle thing, especially since i tend to misread kitaman almost every game. But iamperfection i could probably see being mafia. I agree on the points on Koshi and Mocsta, i jut don't think the points make either of them mafia. I like Superbia and Kelsier the most so far, maybe Holyflare can actually be town this game. Grackaroni can you play like you did last game please? Why can't i get an easy read on you here? Palmar is mafia. There is no way he words his post like that, and doesn't even vote for me if he actualyl believes i am mafia. And if he doesn't actually believe i am mafia the whole post doesn't make any sense because it is weekend and he'll have less time than during the week. But then again, if he believes i am mafia (as strongly as he suggests) he would be pushing my lynch because he doesn't have to do anything else (since its weekend) as he already found a mafia, and not make a crappy comment about "but lest not lynch him yet because i dont wanna argue". Like it's so so so terrible, it doesn't fit his MO, it doesn'r make any sense he doesn't want to lynch his scumread at all and instead he just makes a comment that will most likely provoke a reaction that he says he doesn't want in the very same post. Very much mafia, thanks. | ||
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since you are here why did you not call me out of what HF said earlier if your reasoning is what you really believe? You could have made the case earlier by yourself, not only after i actually did something that contributes to scumhunting? Actually iamperfection is just worse here, the guy has done nothing but trolling and then joins this wagon only after, again, when i actually post something relevant to scumhunting. | ||
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On June 10 2018 13:56 kitaman27 wrote: Fine, I'll add party pooper to the potential options. It's the fact that you didn't really follow things up afterwards that looked the worst imo. When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you. I can see you actually believing that since you haven't been in a game with me lately. I don't actually say things i don't mean, and i don't actually say things i won't follow up on. I don't think i do that even as mafia, and the way i posted about Palmar i most likely post as either alignment, i for sure know i do as town as i just did. The truth is i expected more to have happened yesterday, even early on, since the playerbase in this game is quite competitive, but apparently these games with "good" players nowadays are a shitfest or a dick measuring contest where most of the people think they don't need to actually play, or even don't try to play with the time they have. I also slept most of the yesterday and given the game state at the time i just didn't care enough to post, so there is that. But yeah well, you can believe your story or you can believe mine. I don't really care i am just here for the puzzle. | ||
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On June 10 2018 03:09 kitaman27 wrote: Count me in on the rayn is mafia bandwagon. First dude to whine about the thread not being on track is usually mafia trying to make a town post or a try hard townie and there is nothing to suggest the latter so far. See here is the thing, in the last post kitaman asks me to explain my stance on Palmar (which kind of even isn't why he said he thinks i am mafia earlier -- which he followed up on with). The problem is that his vote on me comes before i explain my stance on Palmar. So like.. at the same time he is interested in why i think Palmar is mafia (which he shouldn't if he is being genuinely scumreading me at this point), but after i give my explanation, he STILL claims i am mafia for: When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you. ..this whole section doesn't make any sense at all if he is actually interested in why i think Palmar is mafia (because it just doesn't matter and i can't possibly be mafia for him because of this as he has asked me to explain my Palmar read -- why would he care about my Palmar read or what it is based on if he thinks i am already mafia because i didn't explain it earlier). It's like a big blop of fluff where nothing makes any sense and all the roads lead to me being mafia regardless of what i say.  | ||
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1) rayn is mafia for what HF said 2) expalin your read on PAlmar 3) votes for me 4) i explain 5) see i didn't care about your explanation at all, because you're still mafia. In different order this could make some sense but here (especially with the vote coming around the time it did) it makes literally no sense at all because at that time he is both interested in my reasoning and still isn't. | ||
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fuba Tubesock Mocsta Koshi Rels TheSlenderMan ..make yourself town please? | ||
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On June 10 2018 14:07 kitaman27 wrote: And Palmar, were you actually confident that rayn was mafia when you made that post earlier or were you more looking to bait a reaction? If it's the latter, what reaction were you looking for that points to a mafia rayn as opposed to a triggered town rayn? lol this is also super mafia post considering what happened before. Like am i mafia with Palmar or what? looool | ||
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On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote: Hi rayn Why is kelsier and superbia shining brightly to you? Aside from a humerous start from superbia . All i see is poking at low hanging fruit with zero insight. Also If anything. I believe kitamin is scummy for his suggestive language with you e.g. "confront" rather than what you point out. This is because i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you. Not sure yet if intentional. There is no such thing as "intensity of a vote" unless it's clearly a joke vote. It is pretty clear i am not exaggerating anything since he voted for me after (or simultaneously) asking me to clarify my stance on Palmar but without waiting me to answer it. There is no other conclusion to make than that he has already made up his mind whereas that makes his question to me is completely irrelevant, and that also makes his question to Palmar completely irrelevant because there is literally 0% cahnce me and Palmar are both mafia in this game. It is very simple, he is at the same time clearly having a conclusion but his posting suggests he doesn't actually have a conclusion, and that's not how townies operate. I don't think Kelsier and Superbia are trying to look like they are playing, they are just doing their own stuff. Basically i don't think they have teammates. But humor me a moment and tell me what of my content is twisted? Because there literally isn't any. For once my D1 cases are very simple and should be understandable even for people who normally don't understand me. This is actually a quite relevant question since you have just grouped me in your top 3 scumreads when the other two are my top 2 scumreads and i don't understand how that makes any sense at all, so where is this "twisted that makes me possibly mafia"? On June 10 2018 20:48 Holyflare wrote: You expect people to play more but you only posted like twice yourself? Hopefully this guy learns to read some day. | ||
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Fine, that's your opinion on superbia and ksc. It's not mine though. I don't even wanna go further into that since i can't even imagine i could somehow explain those reads so that people could agree with me based on what i say. But that's what i think. I don't understand why Koshi and HF should be the same? Because Koshi and HF are not Superbia and ksc, and apparently Koshi is avoiding to work with everyone so i am not sure why i would ever consider grouping him with them since neither Superbia and ksc aren't exactly avoiding to work with people, that's not what i ever said. Holyflare is just being stupid and stubborn but he sounds townie. | ||
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On June 11 2018 00:45 kitaman27 wrote: I have no idea about grack at this point, but the fact that you float this one out there when you likely need his vote is scummy. I can see you liking him for including Palmar on his list, but considering it's along side your town read Superbia and Rels who hasn't posted yet it, it doesn't seem like you'd be able to justify a town read based out of a 1/3 list post. But you just called him town. | ||
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But it's okay, you can give away more alignments. | ||
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I understand i am probably going to get lynched tomorrow what you guys need to do after that is lynch kitaman. Mocsta is correct in that kitaman is over and over again presenting a damned if you do, damned if you dont arguments. Look at what i said about him earlier. Look at Mocsta's posts. Look at the time where he says "nothing is set in stone and i am constantly reconsidering" or some bs like that, when i confronted him about already deciding i am mafia and then still questioning Palmar. Then Palmar answers his question with "scummy post" comment and look at all the amount of him reconsidering. Do you think an "answer" like that should make him reconsider? I mean like, at best the dude is the worst hypocrite in the game and i do not really think that is what town!kitaman is. Also there is the calling Grackaroni town.Superbia talk to me about iamperfection. The guy has been a total trashcan in this game and from what i know he is a trashcan when he is mafia, so yeah, i can easily see him being mafia. I just couldn't see 3 mafia jumping on me like that because it's very retarded thing to do in my opinion regardless of the outcome of the lynch. I kind of sorta agree with fuba being weird. Otherwise i would think he is mafia but there was a time where he made a post where he already set in voting for me and decided against it in the end. I mean if i was fuba i would totally lynch rayn who plays over garbage Palmar. I am not sure why he wouldn't as scum do that? Grackaroni is probably still not scum, because kitaman is scum, and if he was scum he would most likely have made sure i get lynched. Koshi can be mafia. I actually thought at the same thing Mocsta did earlier, that the vote on Rels was a "vote on townie", like he said lol. It's probably not what he meant but now that Rels has actually posted stuff, Koshi should do something. We will see, he can easily be mafia anyways. | ||
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I understand what you are saying about strength of votes Mocsta, but that is something i am not talking about here. I am mostly talking about this post: When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you. Read this post very carefully. That is a scumread. If this is your read, and you believe it, why do you ever feel like you need to reconsider. He earlier said he wanted me to explain my stance. At that point the votes on me had already happened, so how can whatever i say change his mind??? There is simply no answer i can give that should make him think oterwise he says in this post, so why ask the question in the first place? It doesn't make any sense. Second instance is the one where he asks Palmar about his read on me. Two things to note here: 1) The thing i quoted above is already what he thinks, and there is no way i am mafia with Palmar, again a completely pointless question he cannot possibly achieve anything from 2) Let's imagine (1) is incorrect and he thinks he can actually gain something from Palmar's answer. Palmar answers with a one-liner post that doesn't show anything but ignorance towards the game. Where does this "reconsidering my reads" that kitaman so roots for ever show? Absolutely nowhere, he never even touches Palmar's answer with a long stick while that is the KEY POINT to where he stands in this game regarding reads and if he is right or wrong. I call fucking bullshit. ----------------- On fuba, this is the post i am talking about: On June 11 2018 01:57 fuba wrote: Though having just seen the vote count - that's a lot of pretty good players on one person... Unless they're all scum (or even 2/3 of them are scum) I could just be wrong :S If fuba is mafia i believe this is a clear set up for voting for me. Like, think about it, assume i am town and you are fuba. What do you do after this? Noone will ever blame you for voting for me (especially since HF and kitaman are hc rooting for my lynch). What would you do in that situation? Do you vote for garbage Palmar or do you vote for me here? Because i know i would always vote for me. I'd love some input on this in case you think otherwise. | ||
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On June 11 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote: I am not lying. But I would have voted rayn over Palmer. I care more for the no commitment blunt short stuff than rayn his boring long winded stuff. But I was playing HS. This doesn't make any sense at all. First of all Koshi hasn't read any of my posts as he claims. Therefore he cannot have a reason to think i am mafia. Second, Koshi literally said in the last game's obs qt that "Holyflare lately has always pushed mafia agenda as town", so it doesn't make any sense Koshi would so easily follow Holyflare on this lynch. Third, i do not for a second believe Koshi would be so ignorant as town that he doesn't care enough to come to the thread at the deadline. Like yeah, Koshi can seem ignorant and all that shit, but not ignorant enough to not either vote for his scumread or choose a better one of two lynches, and i don't see any possibility of Koshi actually thinking Rels is mafia. | ||
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Why aren't you dead Holyflare? Also explain me this: He made a case on kita that made him "definitely mafiaa", that went nowhere and he forgot all about it or certainly didn't want to push it over a palmar read that's based off of one post and shit. Yeah i did that. It doesn't make me mafia. You are very very likely lying here since we just came out of a game where i decided to not vote for a guy who also happened to be you who is was completely 100% certain is mafia over another dude who ia originally had no idea about but whose play i just hated. I find it simply unbelieveable you actually believe that. He voted Palmar who he knows can't play on a weekend based on absolutely 0 content and said it was a definitive scum read based on nothing. This is a blantant lie. I did not vote for Palmar based on 0 content, that's just simply untrue. | ||
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On June 12 2018 08:34 TheSlenderMan wrote: I also want to mention that the possibility of a kitaman-rayn Scum-duo is something my gut finds plausible. Here is another thing i find almost impossible to believe someone believes to be true. So you might want to elaborate on this Slendy. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote: i genuinely dont follow this logic? 1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect? Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless? LYLO comes the same day regardless of if someone is saved or not so effectively a medic save does nothing. | ||
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no, he just came out of a game where he played quite townie. I would assume he would try to emulate that as mafia since he sure as hell is capable of it. Also the eod1 incriminates him for those black-and-white thinkers (which this game is apparently full of) and there is not really any scum reason for him to do what he did unless he wants to gain my trust which isn't really hot fuzz atm. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:31 fuba wrote: Idk, HF is playing way different this game than last game - though I guess he doesn't have the impetus of an inevitable scummate lynch, so the situation might be different. And I didn't notice him being any different last game until d2/d3. Still think rayn town. Kita prob town, but I can't remember playing with them before. Holyflare did absolutely nothing after D1 in the last game aside from the okay Koshi case. The most damning thing after D1 was him letting the LS lynch go uncontested (when the guy was confirmed town for him). kitaman is not town. can you please go and read what i have wrote on him and actually think about it? | ||
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Like umm.. what i said before is best explained by maybe this: Holyflare shouted ,right after the lynch that fuba, grackaroni, and mocsta are mafia. All those people defended me or at least voted for Palmar straight or indirectly contributed to his lynch over mine. HF claims "it's not a point of you dfefended rayn" and "i am not making a call on your alignment based on rayn's", but when you actually go and ask yourself; "if rayn is town why does mafia![insert any of the names here] do what they did?" you are never going to find an answer more likely than that they are just town. never. HF just cuts corners and can be very persuasive. It is sometimes the curse of his town game, when he is wrong, but it is also why he is so good as mafia. It is hard to tell, but it's okay, i am quite sure i can tell his alignment confidently by the end of this phase. Doesn't matter to me if i am lynched or not. | ||
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On June 12 2018 14:34 Mocsta wrote: you are writing very clear, but i am having trouble following the thought process. I concluded before that grack may have tried to hammer you. Him and fuba had identical timestamps. so it was happenstance that palmar was lynched. HF either ignores this or was not aware of it in his beat-down of grack. But, i dont understand how that assists with gaining your trust? i can only muster 3 reasons for his odd EoD play. 1 = townie-ish. On the basis of being a stronger town lean, save palmar (via voting rayn) 2 = scummy-ish. Avoid a dead vote on someone with no substantiation. 3 = neutral. Genuinely wanted shennanies. I dont think the post-reaction supports #3 at all. I don't really care when he voted for me. I care about the fact that he unvoted and voted for iamperfection because that already includes him having some sort of thought process at the time. Like if he is mafia at this time he doesn't wanna be on my mislynch which is clearly retarded line of thought since if he had just voted for me or kept his vote on me or whatever noone would have blamed him for that. What grackaroni did not only opened the situation up for someone (in this case it was fuba) to save me, and ALSO he looks terrible after the lynch where ever his vote is by the end of the day. It jsut doesn't make any sense for him to act like he did when he could just have simply voted for me, gained a better result result wise, and gained a better result in town cred wise. | ||
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tubesock and slendy are non-factors here since they have posted a total amount of zero since hf's last post. | ||
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So, am i still mafia or what? | ||
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I strongly believe 2 out of the trio of HF/kitaman/iamperfection are mafia. I have said everything i have on iamperfection, there is not really much to say. We are talking about a dude who has only once been mislynched as town and even that was the joke of a game where all townies basically killed themselves (and Mocsta killed a couple of medics) and me and kita just yoloed iamperfection lynch just because... Fun times. But the point is the dude is actually good at playing town adn can't play as mafia even if his life depended on it. So probably mafia. Here is why Holyflare is probably mafia. On June 12 2018 16:26 Holyflare wrote: Well I've based my read on you on facts and what you did this game. You've based your read on clearly false meta that was obviously terrible. You're not in a position to criticise. Nk says you are. Gut says probably not. This makes absolutely zero sense in any world. The only things that have changed after D1 regarding me is that Palmar flipped town (should not look better on me), and Superbia died (HF himself says this points towards me). Why does his gut say i am town? It is simply unbelieveable because his gut should never in any world say i am more likely to be town than on D1. Second thing, "kita is scum that's all i have to say". Let's look at the D2. What has Holyflare done regarding this read of his. Yeah, absolutely nothing, except for vote and wants to now lynch the person who has been on kitaman all game long. Note that this could be a reason why his "gut could say i am town" but if that doesn't apply to Mocsta it cannot possibly apply to me aswell. Standard mafia play, do nothing with your reads you were so "confident" in. Third thing is HF very well knows iamperfection's reputation. Funny fact is he is accusing me of "not lynching your top scumread" and then voting for fucking Mocsta (who is btw town) over a trashcan player. Fucking unbelieveable how he can work against his own standards (which also btw don't apply to me just fyi). Very very likely to be mafia. kitaman is scum for this. On June 11 2018 14:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'll try to make a couple of these reads more understandable. Normally when you search for mafia you question things and search for answers for what you feel like you don't understand or can't make a decision on. Then you make a decision and act on it. What kitaman does is he already has found his answer (and i am not talking about if he is right or wrong because townies can be wrong ofc -- but the important part is he clearly has found an answer) but after that he is still trying to look like he is looking for answers. That's not a way townies ever operate in this game. No matter how good or bad you are it's just not a way you operate, ever. I understand what you are saying about strength of votes Mocsta, but that is something i am not talking about here. I am mostly talking about this post: Read this post very carefully. That is a scumread. If this is your read, and you believe it, why do you ever feel like you need to reconsider. He earlier said he wanted me to explain my stance. At that point the votes on me had already happened, so how can whatever i say change his mind??? There is simply no answer i can give that should make him think oterwise he says in this post, so why ask the question in the first place? It doesn't make any sense. Second instance is the one where he asks Palmar about his read on me. Two things to note here: 1) The thing i quoted above is already what he thinks, and there is no way i am mafia with Palmar, again a completely pointless question he cannot possibly achieve anything from 2) Let's imagine (1) is incorrect and he thinks he can actually gain something from Palmar's answer. Palmar answers with a one-liner post that doesn't show anything but ignorance towards the game. Where does this "reconsidering my reads" that kitaman so roots for ever show? Absolutely nowhere, he never even touches Palmar's answer with a long stick while that is the KEY POINT to where he stands in this game regarding reads and if he is right or wrong. I call fucking bullshit. Same thing happens with Slendy. kitaman expects and asks him for his read on me. The answer is (like Palmar's on D1 to him) never ever pleasing in any way, yet he doesn't take that anywhere, nor does he call the person mafia. Once again i call bullshit. Same thing with Grack, he ask something about an explanation of my read on him and it never goes anywhere. The dude is fucking filled with useless crap that apparently never leads anywhere in his mind. This is what kitaman's play looks like in this game: kita 5yrs old: "mommyy i want a lollipoooooop!!!!" mom: "no dear, we can't buy you a lollipop here" kita 5yrs old: "MOOOMMMYYY YOU ARE EVILLLL I HATE YOU!!!!" mom: "you can't have a lollipop here sweetie" kita 5yrs old: "But why mom?" mom: "because they don't sell lollipops in this store" kita 5yrs old: "MOOOMMMYYY I WANT A LOLLIPOOOOOP YOU ARE EVILLLL I HATE YOU!!!!" Maybe a five year old cannot comprehend answers, make decisions or rethink his reads based on them, or as another option asks completely useless questions that aren't even leading them anywhere because he already knows he wants a lollipop and no lollipop means war in any case, but i don't think kitaman is 5 years old anymore. So yeah there is that. I know i am like 90% wrong on one of those people but i simply have no time to figure it out anymore and almost everyone wants to lynch something retarded or are not playing apparently.... Koshi can still be mafia although i agree his latest post look slightly better. Too bad they still don't contribute anything to the game. Fuck you Rels for not playing. You're town but still fuck you. Am i surprised? No. Slendy can easily be mafia. Based on this post: On June 12 2018 08:34 TheSlenderMan wrote: Gun to my head I'd say rayn's Town but I'm not feeling confident about him yet. I can actually see why Palmar would be legit convinced that rayn's start was a scum one. I also want to mention that the possibility of a kitaman-rayn Scum-duo is something my gut finds plausible. Alas, been nursing a fairly epic hangover so it's not just rayn I "don't feel confident about" after the first readthrough. I see a lot of interactions that SEEM like they should help PoE possible Scummiosi. OTOH, I have the recollection that over here players tend to be very aggressive bussers? Regardless of that, many of the questions I have will have clearer answers to them after a more sober re-read and some real-time D2 discussion. Some brief random thoughts: the way Rels talked about rayn in the in-and-out-of-the-Thread -post actually makes me suspect he's Town. rayn is the person I'd assume busyTown!Rels to "sheep" like that. Fuba's tone during N1 makes him the person I'd Vote right now if I wasn't feeling too damn tired to open the official Vote-thread. Couldn't remember a single post by Superbia as I saw the PC-post so that probably means the Scummiosi are Power Role -hunting. iamperfection hasn't been posting much but the lack of the luster rings Town to me. Holyflare I like as Town. Grackaroni, Mocksta, Koshi and kitaman are players who trouble me moreso than the ones not mentioned. There are a couple of things that bother me a great deal. - First one is the " I can actually see why Palmar would be legit convinced that rayn's start was a scum one". What's the point? Who cares what he thinks about this since Palmar has already flipped? I have a really hard time seeing him making this comment as town. - Then there is the "the possibility of a kitaman-rayn Scum-duo is something my gut finds plausible". No no no. I have a very hard time seeing him making this comment as town. I know this guy personally, and he doesn't seem town rn. Kelsier is a ?-mark. Other people are town. And fuck you all for telling me i can't - or there is no reason - townread someone. Or even fucking worse when i give my reasoning tell the thread it's not a reasoning (i want to lynch kitaman for this the most). If you're town HF you can go to your own corner and learn how to read people like Superbia and fuba. ----------------- ##unvote ##vote kitaman27 This is always the best lynch. Holyflare should be dead already, if Holyflare does not die in the next 2 nights just straight out lynch him. There are literally very few reasons (that are bad) why a guy who is townread by 11 other players during N1 does not die and the one bad reason has been now excluded from the pool. So yeah, murder HF D4 if he is alive (unless he has lynched 2 mafia which is impossible with his current vote btw). | ||
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On June 12 2018 05:23 Holyflare wrote: Kita is probably mafia, that's all I have to say. On June 13 2018 15:52 Holyflare wrote: Mocsta/fuba are probably our best lynches today. I'd edge towards fuba personally. On June 13 2018 16:50 Holyflare wrote: Maybe mocsta actually On June 14 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote: I voted mocsta because even though iamp is probably the correct lynch, mocsta is the more deserved lynch that would make me feel better. sure bro. | ||
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On June 14 2018 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I jsut want to point this out: sure bro. Note that this is an actual denial to follow what one says he believes earlier instead of HF's D1 bullshit crap fucking ass case on me. | ||
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The pool of kita/HF/iamp/slendy/(kelsier) never really comment on any of the other people in that group (yeah i know HF called kita scum but you can probably see why that doesn't count -- slendy also "called kita scum", i put that on quotation marks because he just gave some weird list idk where that is supposed to lead). I understand there is not much to comment on iamp/slendy/kelsier, but kita especially addressed slendy, and i would think both kita and HF would have at least fucking interacted with each other ONCE in the game lol in case they were town. HF/kita/iamp 2 mafia slendy (most likely)/kelsier/koshi(least likely) 1 mafia everyone else is town. | ||
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Rest of my scumlist + Mocsta, but Mocsta is not mafia. | ||
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I don't remember the name but kitaman was scum, there were 2 scumteams and Palmar had a perfect case on him. I don't know if it has similarities to this game, if it does always vote for him. I can't be around before the deadline. rels you know the game you were mafia with Cake if i remember correctly. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:16 Palmar wrote: Btw, to strengthen my case against Kita, I want to point this out. These posts are in ORDER and I left NO posts out from Vivax or Kita: The point here is: Vivax posts something Kita sees a reason to reply to. Notice however that in Kita's initial reply he doesn't call Vivax mafia at all. Then Vivax responds with basically nothing and some time passes. I come to the thread and call Vivax mafia and Kita immediately agrees with me, but using the weird phrasing "Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too". However Kita had not bothered to mention this scum read until I started talking about it. And yet, when he explains the Vivax read (he explains it more later), it is for precisely the reasons that I called Vivax mafia. Now Kita thinks I'm mafia, so I guess there also exists a scenario where he thinks Vivax and I are both mafia from different families, that is, if he hasn't forgotten about his vivax scumread. But Kita did two extremely scummy things here: a) Fail to mention a scumread, yet claim to have already had it, this is despite actually interacting with his scumread. b) Call me mafia, when his claimed thought process for scumreading Vivax was EXACTLY, like LITERALLY EXACTLY the same as mine, which means he should be thinking that I'm reaching these conclusions naturally. On January 21 2016 22:19 Palmar wrote: If it isn't clear: I don't believe Kita had the scumread on Vivax until I pointed it out, because it's so simple that he would have mentioned it. I think he just tried to revise history with his "vivax was one of the first I picked out as mafia" line of posting in order to make himself look good. NOTICE ANYTHING? :D :D :D:D D: | ||
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fuck you HF, i never kill Superbia if you are town you are so bad. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:18 Holyflare wrote: Kita was likely mafia because he simply was just commenting on things. That's completely changed today. like what the fucking shit.... The dude has done nothing other than called me mafia then when the people who he talks to say "idk, i am not sure about that" he just goes "well rayn is mafia kthxbye". Like literally exactly as D1. D: | ||
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Is there a reason no one is interested in Lynching fuba? No. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:53 TheSlenderMan wrote: Goddamnit how do I use the filter here? I know it exists and is super-handy but I can't find it. :/ Third right from quote button. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:54 Grackaroni wrote: On the first page in the player list you can click on any of the names for their filter. Below each post there is quote - report - gift tl+ - filter There you go | ||
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 I genuinely still dont believe palmar legit thought i am mafia.. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So holyflare. What are those contributions kitamna has made d2? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:05 Holyflare wrote: I scum read mocsta. He makes walls of text on mocsta being mafia. Do you not think I'm going to automatically like something that panders to my ego and my reads? ....... Tjats his fucking D1 case based on 1 post......ngnfnf... | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:14 TheSlenderMan wrote: Thanks, guys. Ah right, I misread kitaman's commentary on rayn during the Palmar--rayn -counterwagons situation. So much for that Scumduo being actually plausible. The thing that troubled me wrt kitaman still troubles me after the filter. I have a hard time trying to explain it in English, though. It sounds like, until the direct D2-discussion with rayn, he tries to comment on everything in a general way that appears good on the surface but includes as little risk to himself as possible while doing it. As in, lacking the committal tone a Townie usually has while trying to solve the game. Am curious about the iamp-wagon -- it's based on him not being around today, and kind of dicking around yesterday? Is he REALLY the kind of player who'd lose interest and drop out as Mafia? Very few players actually do that, even then it's usually in unique circumstances like Scumteam-infighting... admittedly, I don't know iamp as a player, but I'd still be surprised if this was an actual, legitimate reason for a wagon? Yes it is. You should vote for kitaman though. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:19 Mocsta wrote: i am not schizophrenic..... but i do have a separate personal agenda each time i play. Nah you just go from yourself into some weird place instead... meh its not a better explanation lol but yeah. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:21 TheSlenderMan wrote: Holyflare -- D1 you say this: "Tells people to stop trolling, presumably to instead play the game but then does nothing whatsoever to actually contribute. Then comes back 12 hours later to say nothing and afk and only just say palmar's read is weird. plz lynch ##vote raynpelikoneet team is probably rayn/koshi " How is your own D1 any better by your own standards, before you start commenting on fuba? This is a really funny case because it says rayn did x then y and MAFIA!!!! its literally only that and nothing more. i thought hf has some hidden agenda like presaure or some shit but lol... soooo bad. | ||
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But i will stop now. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote: HF you know what fuck you. i want that apology from koshi, and i want to wipe that stupid grin from your face + i just got super tied up with EoFY stuff as well ##Unvote ##Vote: Mocsta No. Mocsta no. Vote kita. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:30 iamperfection wrote: what is this? This is JKNO | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:32 iamperfection wrote: a what now JKNO | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:33 iamperfection wrote: wtf is jkno Maybe no time to figure it out. I would need to go to wikipedia and show you so uh oh no.. | ||
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Why didnt you make the case 2 days ago? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:39 kitaman27 wrote: I did. But you clearly know that because you read my filter, right? Ah so you recreated? Instead of read my case here? Very good. Shows content whicj yoy have 0 besides rayn and mocsta are mafia. I will ruin you team. Peace. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:40 Holyflare wrote: How is my day 1 better? What? I made a solid case on rayn before he started playing and then half way(!) through day 1 at a max 5 pages of thread I began hunting fuba. How is my play different? Probably because there's no trolling and all investigation. I havent trolled at any point in this game and you made cases on 2 townies and tunneled like a dumb person. And your case on me was shit as fuck. So yeah... | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:42 Grackaroni wrote: Anyways. NEED MORE BEERS> I think we're heading to an epic conclusion here. Vote for kita if yoy are not already. I promuse you i will claim mafia in case he does not flip mafia. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:45 kitaman27 wrote: rayn, you honestly look at mocsta's koshi vote and still think he's town? I am scum why do yoy care? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:46 Grackaroni wrote: I voted Kita because I trust your read over my own. Even though I think Koshi's Mocsta read is really scummy. Maybe. We will never have koshi lynch here set in stone tbh. And i am not a Sure if he is scum so well... its not up to me in any case to lynch koshi. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:49 Holyflare wrote: Mate. Reading comprehension. Where do I say you were trolling? What was i doing before my third post if not trolling if i am mafia? | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:50 kitaman27 wrote: lol maybe it's HF afterall. The fact that he's just sitting around letting Mocsta and rayn have their way looks terrible. Yes, rayn mocsta hf scum good. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:51 iamperfection wrote: can someone sum up why kita is getting votes use simple words plz. Play yhe gane you fuck. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:52 kitaman27 wrote: Well I guess I shouldn't have signed up then. Nobody obviously cares about playing this game, except rayn and mocsta and they're both scum. I am not gonna buy your painting HF as mafia just that you know. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:55 Holyflare wrote: Can you reread the summary? Other people were trolling, you told them to stop, you did nothing to contribute. That was the case. Nothing more. Nothing about you trolling. It wasn't a bad case for 5 pages into the thread and was half serious and half pressure. I didn't like your contributions so continued to vote you. Partly because I didn't really give a shit to do anything else and partly because I didn't think your content was great. When everyone and their mother started hard defending you I decided to back off and look into them. Today, when you actually start posting content and reasons for your reads you look a lot better. When you play afk and post trash about grack/superbia and kelsier being town when they posted 0 things and don't talk to ke then I'm going to think you're mafia. I don't play by analysing specific points and sticking to them. I play by conversations and reevaluation after that. Dude i literally slept almost all saturday. I posted when i got home from bar, i posted when ì woke up again. I posted when i found the first interestin thing (palmar) after i woke up again. You just painted it as fuck you you said x and then did y whixh is not cool. I simply just was not there. But when i posted and read i told what i had to say at that point. | ||
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Otherwise you are mafia. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:07 TheSlenderMan wrote: Koshi next IMHO. I would lynch you before koshi tbh. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:11 Holyflare wrote: Dunno if he is rayn :D Ofc he is. Lylo might be a different story but before lylo he is always town. Koshi is also confirmed shit. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:11 TheSlenderMan wrote: Nah I had no need to Vote kita in that situation when he wasn't about to get Lynched yet. As Mafia I wouldn't have even needed to "suspect" him. But iamp is mafia sooo. .... | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:23 TheSlenderMan wrote: Yes, rayn, I haven't been around. So my posts have been brief and underwhelming. And as Mafia I wouldn't need to come to the conclusion after reading kita's filter that I need to voice suspicion towards him. I'm not talking about the post two days ago, I'm talking about the catching up I just tried to do. Mafia!iamp makes Mafia!Slendy possible, I suppose. But atleast be a darling and don't do to me what Holyflare did to you at the start of D1, mmkay?  Or else I'll continue to use mocking smileys and disparaging phrasing.Well hopefully you post something that gives me a town thingyfeel until the nk because you know.... Idk.. yes iamp is mafia. Who else? I found the trai n of thought of yours really bad n1. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:40 Holyflare wrote: Because I'm tired and want to sleep :D So no ppl not on kitaman are mafia? | ||
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I underatand most of the ppl. Why did you never read my case d1,? | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:18 Holyflare wrote: Kita was likely mafia because he simply was just commenting on things. That's completely changed today. | ||
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On June 14 2018 06:18 Holyflare wrote: Kita was likely mafia because he simply was just commenting on things. That's completely changed today. i wanna know how this changed today. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:24 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmmm damn. I hope kita was my only trash read. Probably not. Sad days. you are fucking trash if town so go figure you dipshit. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:06 iamperfection wrote: easy well done by me to be honest Who is your scumread now you fucking trashcan? | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:23 TheSlenderMan wrote: Yes, rayn, I haven't been around. So my posts have been brief and underwhelming. And as Mafia I wouldn't need to come to the conclusion after reading kita's filter that I need to voice suspicion towards him. I'm not talking about the post two days ago, I'm talking about the catching up I just tried to do. Mafia!iamp makes Mafia!Slendy possible, I suppose. But atleast be a darling and don't do to me what Holyflare did to you at the start of D1, mmkay? Or else I'll continue to use mocking smileys and disparaging phrasing.wait so... you figured out what HF "did to me" at the start of D1? Or why do you say so? Why did you townread him back then? | ||
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Like if i ask, "why did you not ever contest kitaman for what i said HF?" he needs to answer and not be like 5yr kita who yells MOMMY I WANT A LOLLIPOP! I like it. | ||
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now i need to sleep, i gotta go to work in 6 hrs. we'll see if i have time in the evening. | ||
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On June 14 2018 08:44 TheSlenderMan wrote: Like missing the kita/rayn interaction D1 and later missing that fuba had claimed Tracker. What did you read that made you think i can be mafia with him? | ||
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On June 14 2018 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: What did you read that made you think i can be mafia with him? This is actually the most relevant question to anyone i have atm. | ||
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On June 14 2018 07:55 Holyflare wrote: Can you reread the summary? Other people were trolling, you told them to stop, you did nothing to contribute. That was the case. Nothing more. Nothing about you trolling. It wasn't a bad case for 5 pages into the thread and was half serious and half pressure. I didn't like your contributions so continued to vote you. Partly because I didn't really give a shit to do anything else and partly because I didn't think your content was great. When everyone and their mother started hard defending you I decided to back off and look into them. Today, when you actually start posting content and reasons for your reads you look a lot better. When you play afk and post trash about grack/superbia and kelsier being town when they posted 0 things and don't talk to ke then I'm going to think you're mafia. I don't play by analysing specific points and sticking to them. I play by conversations and reevaluation after that. incorrect. first point. it was never pressure. never, you are lying 100% here. i know you and it was not pressure. fucking shit. no pressure, you are mafia. second point. untrue. when "everyone and their mother started to defend me" you decided to do not a fucking single thing and when palmar was lynched THEN YOU FUCKING yelled everyone who CORRECTLY defended me are mafia. So, your call. What say you? | ||
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Holyflare is mafia. Easy. I am gonna figure out the last one tomorrow. Maybe i will even live because otherwise fuba will have a check. :D | ||
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On June 14 2018 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I jsut want to point this out: sure bro. remember this. remember this. | ||
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I remember you coming in and saying nothing but "why is this game only 5 pages" at the time so what.. should i have forged some reads or? | ||
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On June 14 2018 17:08 KelsierSC wrote: nice job. Need to know whether or not perfect is town/mafia. Assuming it was town vs mafia then a fuba/koshi lynch sounds good. How can you scumread fuba when you apparently dont even know he has claimed tracker aka havent read his posts? | ||
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