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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2018 22:30 GMT
#15
/in

I have a couple years of rust to shake off. Go easy on me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 08 2018 13:13 GMT
#27
I'll be completely honest, I just wanted a mod-confirmed excuse to afk all game.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 08 2018 23:00 GMT
#37
Hi everybody!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 08 2018 23:09 GMT
#43
On June 09 2018 08:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 20:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Considering how this community has apparently become a podium for people to talk about how busy their lives are and how much they have going on, this game seems like a good idea.
It's true though, people who play mafia are in fact the only people in the entire world who have a full time job and adult responsibilities...please get over yourselves.

/in


This guy is a dick i dont like dicks i would like to lynch

Vote## KelsierSC2


On November 30 2017 06:39 KelsierSC wrote:
just too busy for stuff like mafia anymore.


On November 28 2017 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
just way too busy and then when it got to the weekend had things to catch up on because my week was so hectic.


On November 28 2017 01:24 KelsierSC wrote:
I was busy, couldn't vote.


On November 24 2017 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Going to be super busy


On November 24 2017 03:34 KelsierSC wrote:
work is busy and martial arts/gym takes up too much time =)


On July 17 2016 01:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I am far too busy to be hanging around in the thread.


On October 13 2015 04:01 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm rather busy tonight


On August 29 2015 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
blegh got busy today


On March 07 2015 00:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Gotta go. Busy day so probably not on till later.


On February 17 2015 12:23 KelsierSC wrote:
busy day


On February 17 2015 08:52 KelsierSC wrote:
I had a busy day planned.


On January 04 2015 10:48 KelsierSC wrote:
shit got real busy


On November 06 2014 17:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Im busy at work all day


I feel myself returning to top form already.

Vote## KSC
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2018 05:16 GMT
#59
On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana?

I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas.


We don't speak of that.

I think slender is just a random guy rayn knows from Vendetta Strada. They teamed up in a game I hosted a while back.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2018 18:09 GMT
#93
Count me in on the rayn is mafia bandwagon.

First dude to whine about the thread not being on track is usually mafia trying to make a town post or a try hard townie and there is nothing to suggest the latter so far.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2018 18:17 GMT
#94
Mocsta mafia too for being eager to jump in the thread to call something out and falling way short. Can't imagine he actually thinks my joke post was an attempt to wow the thread for some town cred.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 04:01 GMT
#106
On June 10 2018 12:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure i am correct here.


Explain?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 04:56 GMT
#112
On June 10 2018 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also dislike kitaman's reasoning on the vote, because if that's the only two things you can think of then well.. oh boy you're wrong and gonna be wrong a lot.


Fine, I'll add party pooper to the potential options. It's the fact that you didn't really follow things up afterwards that looked the worst imo.

When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you.

On June 10 2018 13:33 fuba wrote:
Don't vote rayn~


Lets hear why.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 05:07 GMT
#113
And Palmar, were you actually confident that rayn was mafia when you made that post earlier or were you more looking to bait a reaction? If it's the latter, what reaction were you looking for that points to a mafia rayn as opposed to a triggered town rayn?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 05:09 GMT
#114
On June 10 2018 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 03:22 Superbia wrote:
this game seems to be going p well, carry on

iap
mocsta
rayn?

Yes indeed

Superbia
Palmar
RELS??


Why Superbia specifically? I don't see any problems with his play so far.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 15:41 GMT
#134
On June 10 2018 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also quite interested in why i would ever need to "confront" someone i think is mafia kitaman? Like do you expect me to convince Palmar that he is mafia or what?


In the sense of trying to convince others to get him lynched, yeah. At that point you had only call his read ingenue and latter that you were confident, which prompted the explain question.

On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
.this whole section doesn't make any sense at all if he is actually interested in why i think Palmar is mafia (because it just doesn't matter and i can't possibly be mafia for him because of this as he has asked me to explain my Palmar read


You literately had 4 one line posts when I asked you to explain. I certainly haven't made my mind up and it's entirely possible for me to vote for you and still want to hear your thought process at the same time.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 15:45 GMT
#135
On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Screw it i don't really think Grackaroni is mafia either.


I have no idea about grack at this point, but the fact that you float this one out there when you likely need his vote is scummy. I can see you liking him for including Palmar on his list, but considering it's along side your town read Superbia and Rels who hasn't posted yet it, it doesn't seem like you'd be able to justify a town read based out of a 1/3 list post.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 15:54 GMT
#136
On June 10 2018 21:56 Koshi wrote:
I am voting Rels because he doesnt play D1 and hides his alignment that way.


Do you have any examples where Rels intentionally doesn't post during day one as mafia? I don't see any.

This seems more like a cop out vote, considering there isn't any evidence that he's lurking and you can't really pressure a dude to post when the most likely explanation is that he isn't around.


I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 16:10 GMT
#138
Do you think it's genuine for rayn to town read you based on what you have posted so far?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 16:15 GMT
#141
On June 11 2018 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2018 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Screw it i don't really think Grackaroni is mafia either.


I have no idea about grack at this point, but the fact that you float this one out there when you likely need his vote is scummy. I can see you liking him for including Palmar on his list, but considering it's along side your town read Superbia and Rels who hasn't posted yet it, it doesn't seem like you'd be able to justify a town read based out of a 1/3 list post.

But you just called him town.


Hmm?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 16:23 GMT
#145
yeah I agree. In the likelihood that you flip mafia, I think that post does reflect well on grack. My question is, how do you justify a town read on grack from a few posts ago because it just seems like an appeal to buddy up to him.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 18:48 GMT
#163
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I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 22:58 GMT
#188
Someone else vote rayn so we don't have some dude someone up out of nowhere and decide things.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 22:59 GMT
#189
On June 11 2018 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I'd rather lynch rayn than Palmar. That's why I'm not switching.


It's a tie vote. By abstaining, you're letting Palmar over rayn if someone else votes.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 23:16 GMT
#200
At least fuba is consistent for favoring a Palmar vote over rayn.

What did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 23:35 GMT
#207
Mocsta, you're either so tunneled that you're automatically assuming that each of my actions is scummy or you're purposely pushing me knowing that you have no chance of lynching me so you can continue the same nonsense day two.

You say that the mafia team is kita, plus 1 of Palmar and rayn, but a kita + rayn scumteam makes no sense in any stretch of the imagination. Do you still even view that as a possibility because you never even come close to showing a willingness to vote him?

I'm not twisted your words, you're up in arms about a joke post 9 minutes into the game. Suggesting that I'm mafia for putting too much effort into a joke post is silly. As for the rayn stuff, he had a 24 hour chance to call Palmar mafia but didn't until Palmar threw out a vote and then he went full omgus.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 23:38 GMT
#209
On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2018 08:16 kitaman27 wrote:
At least fuba is consistent for favoring a Palmar vote over rayn.

What did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy.

I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches so I said that anticipating criticism of Rayn being lynched over Palmar and me throwing away my vote instead of voting a main wagon.


Anticipating criticism? How do you know he wasn't going to flip mafia?

For what it's worth a rayn + grack scum team doesn't make a ton of sense in my opinion based on the earlier plea from rayn.

meh guess we'll see where the night shot goes and go from there.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 10 2018 23:42 GMT
#212
On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote:
I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches


On June 11 2018 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2018 01:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Do you think it's genuine for rayn to town read you based on what you have posted so far?

No I don't think so I would expect my filter to piss him off.


Why wasn't rayn's seemingly fake town read on you enough to feel stronger that he was mafia?

Like I said earlier, he went out of his way to call you town at a point in the game where you hadn't even really said anything.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 01:49 GMT
#222
On June 10 2018 17:35 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin27


On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin


On June 10 2018 21:26 Mocsta wrote:
Kitamin


On June 10 2018 22:07 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin.


On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin


On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin


On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin


On June 11 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin


On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote:
Kitamin


On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote:
We clearly dot i's and cross t's differently.


Maybe you should stop dotting your i's altogether.

BECAUSE I'M NOT A VITAMIN.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 20:04 GMT
#241
Does rayn look town or mafia to you so far this game slender?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 20:22 GMT
#243
I lied to you earlier iamp. Slender is a smurf. It's a pretty juicy name too. I bet you'd love to learn who it is.

I only share my secrets with townies though so until you do something, anything at all, you'll never know.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 20:23 GMT
#245
HF just mad that I'm not sharing my secrets with him.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 21:16 GMT
#247
No, you broke my heart yesterday. You gotta earn back my love.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 11 2018 22:59 GMT
#252
I kinda doubt I'm getting shot, but if I do rayn and Mocsta should be the ones you guys focus on tomorrow. I still need to do a reread myself since I've only really skimmed the n1 stuff.

I really have no idea who the third could be. I could honestly come up for a reason for basically every other player why they could be mafia aside from tube and slender and that's only because they haven't posted anything.

They obviously all can't be mafia, but at the same time I'm also starting to get concerned about the assumption that only 1 of them is scum if its rayn + mocsta. Late game is going to be a complete mess at this rate.

-super started out okayish, but has shown no interest in yesterday's lynch.
-fuba has no reads and then shows up with the ninja Palmar vote
-Rels seems like he threw out a post because he needed to say something, but it doesn't seem like he strongly believes anything he has said and just calls a bunch of stuff weird
-koshi threw away his vote when he could have hammered rayn, but I guess he wasn't obligated to post that he was around or preferred rayn over Palmar
-KSC no idea
-iamp is posting nothing but throw away comments that aren't relevant to the game aside from the rayn vote
-HF's most recent post about me being mafia has me a bit concerned because we basically share the same top two scum reads. Doesn't seem very consistent from his viewpoint.
-grack threw away his vote when rayn was the logical choice for him.

Guess we'll see who flips and go from there.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 12 2018 13:40 GMT
#324
Alright I'm mostly caught up. I should have more time to play after this evening.

I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster.

Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine.

I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 12 2018 14:40 GMT
#326
Part of rayn's scum read on Palmar is that Palmar had a mafia read on rayn, but wanted to put it off for a later date. Now rayn has a "100% mafia" read on HF and tells us to lynch him day 4?! How isn't that blatantly scummy?

People that are defending rayn are focusing too much on whether or not rayn had a valid reason for thinking Palmar was mafia. Palmar's play sucked. It's whatever. That's not what makes rayn look so bad in my opinion. It's the way he waited to go hard against Palmar until later and the way all his views on players in this game are based on whether they town or mafia read him.

1) Palmar scum reads rayn but doesn't want to deal with it during the weekend
2) rayn calls the read in-genuine but leaves it at that
3) Several players including Palmar vote rayn making him the top vote candidate.
4) Palmar is 100% mafia and votes him
5) rayn attacks kita for his vote
6) casts suspicion onto iamp for his vote
7) rayn buddies up to the individuals who are on his side of the wagon
8) rayn survives the lynch
9) Kita is 100% mafia and votes him
10) HF is now 100% mafia and votes him too after a very leading question about "why is he alive" and having the chance to engage him in the thread. Wants to vote for HF day 4 though so why isn't he still pushing kita as the main lynch?

He seems more interesting in attacking whoever is directly opposing him at the time.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 12 2018 14:54 GMT
#327
On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Screw it i don't really think Grackaroni is mafia either.


Everyone look back at the way rayn casually throws a town read on grack and tell me it it looks legitimate to you guys.

Here is the entirety of grack's filter at the time of the post.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Never fear old chums -- GRACKARONI is on the HUNT.

None can evade the penetrating gaze of my frothing noodles.


On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana?

I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas.


Two throw away posts and then one more.

On June 10 2018 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 03:22 Superbia wrote:
this game seems to be going p well, carry on

iap
mocsta
rayn?

Yes indeed

Superbia
Palmar
RELS??


A scum list of 3 players.

Now he obviously agrees with the Palmar read, but how about the other two?

On June 10 2018 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like Superbia and Kelsier the most so far


Well Rels hasn't entered the game yet and Superbia is his strongest town read! So why is grack suddenly town for a list post where he agrees with 1/3 names on the list? Why isn't he questioning grack about the superbia read considering he doesn't see any evidence to support it?

rayn suddenly having an epiphany with a town read on grack just seems so out of place at this point.

Then when I directly confront him about it, he twists it around on me without an explanation as if I'm the one that is looking scummy for finding the inconsistency. He doesn't bother trying to justify the read because he knows he can't and someone picked up on it so he goes full offense.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 12 2018 15:39 GMT
#331
Now on to Mocsta...

On June 09 2018 20:30 Mocsta wrote:
kita is mafia for going to the effort of splitting kelsier post into mini quotes

BiG job right thurr.. and for what???


On June 09 2018 23:32 Mocsta wrote:
You dont think its weird to dig for quotes from 2015?

Too stupid to be conceived pregame and too much effort for a game we are too busy to play.


He starts off the game accusing me of being mafia for my joke post about KSC because I'm putting in too much effort.

1) KSC's post was made pre-game and obviously can't be interpreted as alignment indicative
2) I clearly wasn't trying to argue that KSC was mafia by poking fun at his busy comment
3) In what world do I think I'm going to earn myself town cred as mafia but throwing together a bunch of quotes. Who here looked at that post as thought "wow look at that! kita really is try harding this game. Town leader material for sure"?

On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote:mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita.


I called him out for the forced read and then he immediately spins it back to me. It's pretty clear that he's already made up his mind that I'm mafia at this point. His explanation about how mafia know more info day 1 isn't relevant in the slightest to the fact that he is suspicious of my joke post.

The fact that rayn instantly town reads mocsta is what creeps me out even more. No way a town rayn takes a look at mocsta's try hard KSC post argument and finds it valid. He conveniently never actually comments on that, rather than instantly shooting it down the bad logic like HF.

On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you.


Then he follows up his attack on me by calling the way I treated rayn as scummy. However he ignores that argument that's being made. This post seems as if he views my vote on rayn as an early game feeler vote to get a reaction from rayn, but why would he take this perspective if Mocsta thinks I'm mafia? If I'm mafia then vote intensity seems irrelevant since I'm trying to push the mislynch. Furthermore, he ignores the rayn town read on grack as part of my case and focuses only on the Palmar stuff, while ignoring the way rayn goes about it.

On June 12 2018 15:03 Mocsta wrote:
Regardless of fuba/grack being the same timestamp, grack 90% sealed rayn fate when he voted iamp.

kita/grack/?iamp? as a 3-way?


Why regardless? Isn't that relevant? What are you trying to argue here?

That me and grack conspired to keep rayn alive? rayn reached majority first so he was getting lynched at the time of the iamp vote, which means we had to anticipate the fuba vote, and then have grack ready for the failed hammer in an effort to get one townie lynched over another townie? That all seems so convoluted that I'm really struggling that think that you actually believe it as a scenario rather than just throwing out random stuff as an attempt to make it seem like you're trying to figure things out.
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#334
...anyone?
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#336
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#337
Do you find my posts on rayn and mocsta convincing or do you not feel that the arguments are valid?
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#344
Most of that explanation from #342 isn't relevant because it doesn't apply to the point of the game when rayn originally posted the town read on you. At that point, you only had the 3 person list post where he wouldn't have agreed with 2 out of the 3 options you presented.

On June 11 2018 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 11 2018 01:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Do you think it's genuine for rayn to town read you based on what you have posted so far?

No I don't think so I would expect my filter to piss him off.


You even agreed that the logic wasn't what you would expect from rayn, but now you're defending the read?

The only part from that latest quote that really is relevant to his initial read is his comparison to last game, but that explanation seems more like he is coming to a conclusion first and then providing an explanation.

For instance, look how I could come to the exact opposite conclusion depending on how I want to frame it:

1) Last game Grack looked really townie
2) This game Grack looks nothing like his town play that he sure is capable of

Therefore, Grack is mafia because he is playing so different.

What specifically do you disagree with about Mocsta by the way?
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#349
On June 13 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
Sure, his eod points make sense. His early day points don't exist and if they do they're wildly exaggerated or tmi.


On June 10 2018 08:52 Holyflare wrote:
vote in vote thread


Your turn.

Gotta run, but I'll look over your response tonight grack.
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#356
On June 13 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 12 2018 22:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Alright I'm mostly caught up. I should have more time to play after this evening.

I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster.

Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine.

I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance.
What is this even saying in red and bold? Red = scummy, Point in bold is absolutely neutral, yet is written as townish.

What is it...


I lean town on him if it wasn't clear.
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#358
On June 13 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
Can you please walk me through why Rayn delaying on Palmar is so clutch to your case?
I think its normal to brush off pressure until more join the party. What actually makes that scummy?


It's the way it goes from 1-line post about Palmar's read being in-genuine to suddenly being 100% absolutely no doubt, I'm never changing my vote, full blown mafia.

I wouldn't even consider that the clutch part of the case. The way his reads form on other players is just as bad. He goes full steam ahead against me after I voted him and asked him to explain a comment, as if I was completely incapable of thinking someone was mafia very early in the game yet wanting more information to understand his thought process. Instead, he represents me as having no interest in what he has to say. I think it was a completely reasonable question, especially considering he has 4 one liner posts total before that.

Then the interaction with HF where he dramatically announces that he "caught HF" as if he discovered some giant scum slip just seems so over emphasized to be legit.

On June 13 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn as town is known to OMGUS pretty hard, this doesn't seem to be placed in consideration at all for your read.


I'll concede that point, but it's not just 1-2 instances in this case. Basically his reads line up 100% with peoples viewpoint on him.

Palmar votes rayn -> Palmar is mafia
kita votes rayn -> kita is mafia
iamp votes rayn -> iamp is mafia
koshi shares that he would have voted rayn -> koshi is mafia
HF attacks rayn -> HF is mafia

Meanwhile guys like you, grack, rels, superbia who are leaving him alone he's totally fine with.

I think the way that he lashes out at the people who attack him is scummy in this instance because he already has a block of 4 players voting against him and scum reading a player outside the remaining pool is a real risk from his perspective. There's just too many examples this game where that happens.
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#359
On June 13 2018 08:01 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 13 2018 07:34 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2018 22:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Alright I'm mostly caught up. I should have more time to play after this evening.

I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster.

Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine.

I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance.
What is this even saying in red and bold? Red = scummy, Point in bold is absolutely neutral, yet is written as townish.

What is it...


I lean town on him if it wasn't clear.
thats my case in point.

admitting to screwing up things is a completely neutral thing.
what does genuine have to do with town?

what in particular about that exchange leans town, as being bona fide/genuine/authentic by itself is neutral.


On June 11 2018 08:06 Grackaroni wrote:
err uhh...

Yeah that one's on me.


On June 11 2018 08:48 Grackaroni wrote:
lol idk what to say I bungled it.


These in particular I found town sounding. From my experience mafia players typically try to justify their mistakes as if they had a valid reason for being responsible for a scummy looking action.

While I completely disagree with his town reads on you and rayn, don't think he really misrepresented my case too badly, I just think he's mostly wrong.
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#360
On June 13 2018 07:29 Mocsta wrote:
rayn has kept up activity, logic and his new writing style.


What? He's been a non-factor this cycle.

The only the he even mentions me is "kitaman is not town. can you please go and read what i have wrote on him and actually think about it?".

Then he catches HF but has done not much at all to get him lynched.
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#367
I'll pretend you don't exist if you vote rayn again.
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#432
Oh hiya rayn

It seems increasingly unlikely that I'm going to be able to get you lynched today since nobody wants to listen to a word I say. Your latest points totally misrepresent my play but I'll get to that later.

At least a few people are picking up on Mocsta's utter nonsense he has been spewing in the thread all game. His lynch would be much better than the alternatives at this point.
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#433
NOOOOOOO

Koshi cmon man. Lets lynch Mocsta first. He has a way higher chance of flipping scum.
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#434
About to drive home. Will be back in a bit.
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#435
iamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me.

I can feel it.
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#452
On June 14 2018 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
you pretty much just confirmed yourself mafia with iamp kita :D


Mocsta has a way higher chance of flipping mafia. If you're town you have to see that pretty easily.

iamp is a shot in the dark. We eventually have to deal with the inactives, but not when we have scum staring right if front of us. I think slender comes off a bit worse out of the inactives tbh.
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#457
On June 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to point out that Kita is scared of people coming back and voting him and making him a majority so he hasn't voted iamp who has done absolutely nothing and he even made one offhand comment about him doing nothing. He won't vote to save himself? Or even comment on the iamp wagon people/iamp?


You're sure right I'm scared about getting mislynched. But I'm not suddenly going to be in favor of an iamp lynch when we have way better options. iamp is about as null as you can get for me right now. As for the wagon, I don't actually see a problem with most of the people on it. Tube looks town. Koshi seems okayish, but I gotta re-read why he prioritizes iamp over mocsta. ksc i have no idea, and you I'm mostly just frustrated you aren't pushing mocsta more while softing useless garbage about why I potentially look bad.
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#458
On June 14 2018 07:14 Koshi wrote:
I dont understand why kita his posts became so boring and panic indusing while rayn his posts became interesting and worth to read.


lol cell phone mostly. Can't filter or type anything XD

Walking in the door atm.
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#495
A summary for why Mocsta is mafia

1) His opening post attacking my joke about KSC's pre-game post and stating that I put in way too much effort as if I was trying to gain town cred.

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On June 09 2018 08:09 kitaman27 wrote:
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On June 09 2018 08:03 iamperfection wrote:
On June 08 2018 20:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Considering how this community has apparently become a podium for people to talk about how busy their lives are and how much they have going on, this game seems like a good idea.
It's true though, people who play mafia are in fact the only people in the entire world who have a full time job and adult responsibilities...please get over yourselves.

/in


This guy is a dick i dont like dicks i would like to lynch

Vote## KelsierSC2


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On November 30 2017 06:39 KelsierSC wrote:
just too busy for stuff like mafia anymore.


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On November 28 2017 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
just way too busy and then when it got to the weekend had things to catch up on because my week was so hectic.


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On November 28 2017 01:24 KelsierSC wrote:
I was busy, couldn't vote.


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On November 24 2017 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Going to be super busy


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On November 24 2017 03:34 KelsierSC wrote:
work is busy and martial arts/gym takes up too much time =)


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On July 17 2016 01:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I am far too busy to be hanging around in the thread.


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On October 13 2015 04:01 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm rather busy tonight


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On August 29 2015 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
blegh got busy today


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On March 07 2015 00:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Gotta go. Busy day so probably not on till later.


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On February 17 2015 12:23 KelsierSC wrote:
busy day


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On February 17 2015 08:52 KelsierSC wrote:
I had a busy day planned.


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On January 04 2015 10:48 KelsierSC wrote:
shit got real busy


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On November 06 2014 17:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Im busy at work all day


I feel myself returning to top form already.

Vote## KSC


On June 09 2018 23:32 Mocsta wrote:
You dont think its weird to dig for quotes from 2015?

Too stupid to be conceived pregame and too much effort for a game we are too busy to play.



2) The way he interprets my vote on rayn. He thinks I'm mafia, but makes a post suggesting that I'm making a feeler vote, which is a conflict in logic from his perspective.

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On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
If anything. I believe kitamin is scummy for his suggestive language with you e.g. "confront" rather than what you point out. This is because i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you. Not sure yet if intentional.


3) The way he interacts with rayn. On day one he always brings up rayn as a potential person to vote, but based on his filter it seems pretty clear that he would never be willing to vote rayn as if he wants those posts to be in his filter for later, but would never act on them. His town read on rayn just doesn't feel natural. It's hard to explain.

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On June 10 2018 21:26 Mocsta wrote:
On my day1 vote list
Kitamin or one of palmar/rayn

I dont like kitamin.
Rayn has some good content and some twisted content.
Palmar has the most forced content.
Preferring palmar than rayn.
Preferring kitamin than palmar.


On June 11 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
i gotta go to a meeting.

If no one will vote kitamin i have to choose between palmar/rayn.

I think rayn is still least likely to be scum in this group.
I say so because he gives me the impression of being willing to die by the sword he forged.
he is maintaining his will to post differently.
he is maintaining his reads, instead of throwing shit out there to see what sticks.
in short, he is doing what himself what he read superbia/ksc town for: i.e. playing solo - without a team.

So, Palmar...
I have nothing new to add then what others have commented other than I have mentally noted his extremely light and delicate "scummy" comment about kita.

##Vote: Palmar


4) That really weird conversation with tube and HF. I really don't see a town motivation for that one the way he brings me up with tube as if he is trying to work together. It seems like a real buddying attempt. And then later he has a back for forth with HF (don't really have time to pull all the quotes) where it seems confrontational, yet at no point to I really believe that he believes that HF is mafia just reading through the posts. Then he throws out a bunch of really weak points that are quickly shot down and just sticks with it as if it makes sense.

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On June 12 2018 09:22 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote:
On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.

Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.

Why not kitaman?


I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking?

Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re
Town so there’s that.
i'm trembling that you could vote me tubesock.

The only thing the NK suggests is that mafia may have been concerned about N1 power roles - specifically medic dodge.
Nothing is directly implicated as you infer.

Who said iamp is town to me? I am commenting on your lack of consistency and after-the-event 'white knighting'.
If you want my iamp read, given over 50% of the game is also crap posting or lurking, its firmly null.

When are you planning to base your Kitaman read on content, as opposed to joviality?



On June 12 2018 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
The short story is, do you think this is something someone (i.e Kitaman) can genuinely misrepresent?


5) Finally, everyone's unwillingness to vote him.

If Mocsta was town and attacked me with that obvious joke post at the start of the game, don't you think a bunch of mafia would pounce on it in an instant? I know that's a wifom argument, but there are too many people just throwing out a town read on mocsta because he's too weird to be mafia, but isn't reading the junk that he's posting. Now today his lynch isn't gaining traction in the least bit.
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#500
On June 14 2018 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita your 2012 tactics dont work here.

Why didnt you make the case 2 days ago?


I did. But you clearly know that because you read my filter, right?

On June 13 2018 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Now on to Mocsta...

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On June 09 2018 20:30 Mocsta wrote:
kita is mafia for going to the effort of splitting kelsier post into mini quotes

BiG job right thurr.. and for what???


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On June 09 2018 23:32 Mocsta wrote:
You dont think its weird to dig for quotes from 2015?

Too stupid to be conceived pregame and too much effort for a game we are too busy to play.


He starts off the game accusing me of being mafia for my joke post about KSC because I'm putting in too much effort.

1) KSC's post was made pre-game and obviously can't be interpreted as alignment indicative
2) I clearly wasn't trying to argue that KSC was mafia by poking fun at his busy comment
3) In what world do I think I'm going to earn myself town cred as mafia but throwing together a bunch of quotes. Who here looked at that post as thought "wow look at that! kita really is try harding this game. Town leader material for sure"?

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On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote:mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita.


I called him out for the forced read and then he immediately spins it back to me. It's pretty clear that he's already made up his mind that I'm mafia at this point. His explanation about how mafia know more info day 1 isn't relevant in the slightest to the fact that he is suspicious of my joke post.

The fact that rayn instantly town reads mocsta is what creeps me out even more. No way a town rayn takes a look at mocsta's try hard KSC post argument and finds it valid. He conveniently never actually comments on that, rather than instantly shooting it down the bad logic like HF.

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On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you.


Then he follows up his attack on me by calling the way I treated rayn as scummy. However he ignores that argument that's being made. This post seems as if he views my vote on rayn as an early game feeler vote to get a reaction from rayn, but why would he take this perspective if Mocsta thinks I'm mafia? If I'm mafia then vote intensity seems irrelevant since I'm trying to push the mislynch. Furthermore, he ignores the rayn town read on grack as part of my case and focuses only on the Palmar stuff, while ignoring the way rayn goes about it.

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On June 12 2018 15:03 Mocsta wrote:
Regardless of fuba/grack being the same timestamp, grack 90% sealed rayn fate when he voted iamp.

kita/grack/?iamp? as a 3-way?


Why regardless? Isn't that relevant? What are you trying to argue here?

That me and grack conspired to keep rayn alive? rayn reached majority first so he was getting lynched at the time of the iamp vote, which means we had to anticipate the fuba vote, and then have grack ready for the failed hammer in an effort to get one townie lynched over another townie? That all seems so convoluted that I'm really struggling that think that you actually believe it as a scenario rather than just throwing out random stuff as an attempt to make it seem like you're trying to figure things out.

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#503
On June 14 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote:
##Vote: Koshi


BAHAHAHA.

I'm his number one scum read all game long and he doesn't want to be responsible for my lynch?

Look at the hypocrisy people. It's not too late to start a wagon of justice.
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#506
On June 14 2018 07:40 iamperfection wrote:
people realize there is a reason i dont play anymore right? I'm in a very different situation now.


Would you consider Mocsta?

Look at his throw away vote on koshi.
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#511
rayn, you honestly look at mocsta's koshi vote and still think he's town?
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#518
lol maybe it's HF afterall. The fact that he's just sitting around letting Mocsta and rayn have their way looks terrible.
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#524
Well I guess I shouldn't have signed up then. Nobody obviously cares about playing this game, except rayn and mocsta and they're both scum.
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#528
Heh 46 games as town. I've never been mislynched up until now.

I guess all things good must come to an end

I'm sure I share the blame for not effectively pushing my thoughts, but oh well.

Can we just lynch iamp and give myself a chance to redeem myself? I have a ton of time from here on out.
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#534
On June 14 2018 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you just say who is mafia?


I honestly really think that it's you, mocsta and one lurker with an outside chance of HF.

I know that's not going to earn your vote, but I'm not going to suddenly change my mind when I'm in trouble. I promise to re-evaluate you if I've somehow been misreading this game all along if I'm alive next cycle, but that seems doubtful.
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#536
On June 14 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 14 2018 07:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Well I guess I shouldn't have signed up then. Nobody obviously cares about playing this game, except rayn and mocsta and they're both scum.


I'm going to say that all of your actions leading up to this lynch are classic scum emotional appeals and shit stirring. I don't think I've done nothing. Your case on both rayn and mocsta piggybacks off of what I already said about them so it's highly disingenuous to start throwing my name out now.


lol you just want credit for lynching me as town don't you
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 13 2018 22:59 GMT
#537
look at the last 2 hours everyone!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 13 2018 23:09 GMT
#549
GG!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2018 00:10 GMT
#1087
gg wp town

Thanks for hosting Calix and Conversion
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-18 00:26:37
June 18 2018 00:24 GMT
#1090
On June 18 2018 09:17 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 18 2018 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
gg wp town

Thanks for hosting Calix and Conversion
i signed up to this game to play with you as BOTH TOWN! lol


IT WAS A JOKE POST.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2018 21:06 GMT
#1098
Oh I was just teasing iamp by pretending you were a smurf since that's all he was talking about at that point.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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