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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 07 2018 00:26 GMT
#16
/in
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2018 18:57 GMT
#238
I really suck. Apologies.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2018 20:03 GMT
#240
I liked most all of HF stuff.

I think Mocsta was the one berating and misconstruing. I haven’t liked any of Mocsta’s posts.

I’m also not really a fan of Gracks eod performance. But it’s only scummy if Rayn is mafia. I’m leaning more towards Rayn being town.

Everyone is pretty null. Although Kita made me laugh with two of his posts. And I don’t like to kill people who make me laugh.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2018 23:52 GMT
#258
Voting Iamperfection.

Cause I feel like this nightkill means something.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 00:04 GMT
#261
On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.

Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.

Why not kitaman?


I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking?

Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re
Town so there’s that.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 00:41 GMT
#263
On June 12 2018 09:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote:
On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.

Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.

Why not kitaman?


I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking?

Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re
Town so there’s that.
i'm trembling that you could vote me tubesock.

The only thing the NK suggests is that mafia may have been concerned about N1 power roles - specifically medic dodge.
Nothing is directly implicated as you infer.

Who said iamp is town to me? I am commenting on your lack of consistency and after-the-event 'white knighting'.
If you want my iamp read, given over 50% of the game is also crap posting or lurking, its firmly null.

When are you planning to base your Kitaman read on content, as opposed to joviality?


You’re trembling? Don’t be afraid friend! It’s only one vote. Oh, wait, we’re you being sarcastic? Is that belittling me?

You can believe implications or not. Today I am. Next game maybe not. But, I doubt anyone would really worry about medic dodging N1 with a possible one shot doc. Nope.

I plan to base my Kita read on content Friday, Jun 15 9:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 00:45 GMT
#264
Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection...
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 00:51 GMT
#266
On June 12 2018 09:49 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 09:45 Tubesock wrote:
Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection...
thats a fair position.

However, I meant it from the perspective I already view you scummier than iamp.

Considering it seems only you and I are online:
Would you like to continue the witty attempts, or meaningfully engage with me?



I’m picking up the boss and we are getting dinner so probably won’t be a great convo but I’ll answer any questions. And I promise not to be snarky.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 01:51 GMT
#268
On June 12 2018 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
what do you make of kitaman27 EoN observation about HF?

On one hand, it made me instantly think.. ohh, thats a good observation, interesting.
On the other hand, I dont believe there are explicit references to this as frankly, I dont know if HF has a strong read beyond Rayn (and now, presumably Kita).

The short story is, do you think this is something someone (i.e Kitaman) can genuinely misrepresent?



I don’t read anything into it. I’m assuming you mean his last will post saying HF should town him because they share the same top scum reads.

HF only said something like “Kita is mafia, all I’m going to say” at night. So, unless HF says something further to say why he’s scumming Kita I’m treating it as a night time mind game he likes to do. Well, he often does some play where he claims to be a medic or something. Basically, if anything I think Kita is being overly defensive but even that isn’t true because I don’t think he came across as overly threatened either.

I like Kita’s posts concerning Grack and you. The posts to you were mostly defensive so not exactly alignment indicative, but what he said about Grack is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading the thread. Specifically Gracks statement preparing for how his vote would look.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 12 2018 02:30 GMT
#270
For anyone who’s played more with Grack:

I think of Grack as a player who normally doesn’t really care what the rest of the players think about him. I’ve been in and seen him in games go completely against the tide and not care at all if people scum read him. Fearless.

I think him worrying about how his vote would look right after a “It’s SHENANNY time!” Post is very strange.

Am I wrong? (Not to mention why he wouldn’t just kill rayn because it seemed he wanted him dead more so than Palmar)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 13 2018 16:58 GMT
#401
I think rayn, HF, Koshi, and Kita are all town. Fuba too.

I normally dislike nitpickers. Mocsta is definitely nitpicking. But we’re on day 57 or something and only on page 20, so ya kinda have to nitpick. I won’t be voting him today because of that.

HF already said, and I think someone already alluded to what I think about Grack. Grack was worried about his vote appearance and then after he got grief he changed his posting style. I don’t think townGrack cares that much to change up. His reads are typically REALLY good. He just doesn’t seem to be as good at or care about his survival ability or getting his Lynch in games.

I think Iamperfection is the player everyone knows is mafia, but no one wants to kill him cause he’s a lurker and a slow game will be even slower if we decide to lynch him early in the day.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 13 2018 17:02 GMT
#402
To be more clear about Mocsta. It’s not that I think he’s twin, it’s more becoming less sure of him being mafia. I’ve been in his spot where I thought way differently from the game and everyone thought I was scummy.

But his hypocrisy is delicious. Complaining about HF doing things that Mocsta is doing to HF.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 14 2018 19:14 GMT
#638
I’m saving rayn.

Mafia doesn’t have the balls to stop me.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 14 2018 22:05 GMT
#642
Koshi, Rels, KelsierSC covers the last two.

It’s still theoretically possible Iamperfection is mafia but I think low chance.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 00:20 GMT
#649
On June 15 2018 07:30 TheSlenderMan wrote:
If 67% of the pool is Rels+Kelsier, that's too convenient.

The lazy solution to the game is never the correct one.

Why am I not in your pool, Tube?


I’m giving you towncred for your vote. And TMI obviously.

I disagree it’s lazy. We will find out soon enough.

I don’t think you understand why I was scumming Grack. His EOD looked liked he tried to save his scum buddy and he expressed concern how he’d look. The former is only scummy if rayn was mafia. I’m going to assume you understand why. Grack worrying about his appearance is not normal Grack town play. So “strange” and “not a fan” of his actions are saying his actions were scummy. I did not change my mind at all for the basis of my read. I don’t understand how you got that idea.

While later I did town read Kita, at first it was literally I didn’t want to kill a funny person. Not something a town person would hard defend if they want to win. So your point about soft defending him and that means I’m mafia is trash.

I didn’t vote Mocsta because he had heat on him and was playing. And shortly after I add thinking he was town anyway. Iamperfection had none but loose suspicion. So I thought I’d throw a vote out and see if he’d start producing. I was gone the rest of the day so I couldn’t save Kita. I don’t know how that’s indicative in any way but whatever.

I do a lot of one liners, you’ll have to get used to it.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 16:24 GMT
#678
On June 15 2018 20:06 Koshi wrote:
Kelsier and iamp I just dont like. There is no mafia motivation I can proof but I just dont like them. If they flip town I can only blame myself for not looking deeper into the game though. Ofc I will blame them for being utter shit but you know.

Tube I dont understand. I dont understand why he calls me mafia. We had the exact same reads. And he was after me. Like...... why does he flip on me? My EoD was probably way townier than the rest because I actually did things near EoD. Horrible things in retrospect, but I was not pushing iamp or removing votes from kita. I was just wrong...


I POE’d everyone else. You usually overwhelm me with town feels, which you haven’t this game. Granted because it’s a four page long game that could be unrealistic. I’m fine with lynching you last if it goes that far. Since you’re playing the most of the pool.

HF could be right about Iamperfection. So he’s in the pool. We have 3 miss lynches anyway right? It’s not auto but pretty close.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 17:11 GMT
#680
On June 16 2018 01:50 Koshi wrote:
I dont buy it tbh.

I dont buy that you first write
"Iamp is the mafia we all know but dont want to vote and Koshi is a clear townread"
Into
"Iamp cant be mafia anymore and Koshi has a 66% chance to be mafia"

Such bs. Your iamp change doesnt make sense. And you completely forget why you tr me in the first place it seems. Like... nope.


Sure. I don’t think the odds of having two mafia wagons were high so that’s why I gave him low odds. While it happens, it’s quite uncommon.

To be fair, I haven’t done anything that I can’t do as mafia. So, from other perspectives I should be in the pool as well. Towns still in a good spot if they lynch me, then you (and you flip town), then Rels/KelsierSC/Iamperfection.

My preference would be KelsierSC/Rels first then it can go to the three of us. One of those are def mafia.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 17:51 GMT
#684
On June 16 2018 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
Don't leave mocsta out. He scum read kita for purely bs reasons and his eod "walk out and be sad" looked pretty forced


I’ll reread his eod, but I think he’s pretty towny. I don’t think scum!Mocsta would case half the game including his partner like that. Plus, I just don’t see how They could be partners with their interactions.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 19:27 GMT
#697
On June 16 2018 04:22 Koshi wrote:
Some1 needs to explain why we dont talk about Kelsier


He hasn’t done anything to talk about.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 15 2018 20:56 GMT
#705
I’ll start the wagon.

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