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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 16 2018 14:48 GMT
#761
Iamp's list is shitty but I don't really think that he's mafia.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2018 14:58 GMT
#762
I follow you and mocsta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 16 2018 15:00 GMT
#763
Heh maybe I don't have to do much work then.

I'm mostly bothered by some of his EoD 2 posts. And I think this is perfectly valid:
On June 14 2018 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare should be dead already, if Holyflare does not die in the next 2 nights just straight out lynch him. There are literally very few reasons (that are bad) why a guy who is townread by 11 other players during N1 does not die and the one bad reason has been now excluded from the pool. So yeah, murder HF D4 if he is alive (unless he has lynched 2 mafia which is impossible with his current vote btw).

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 16 2018 15:52 GMT
#764

Day 3 Vote Count



KelsierSC [2]: Tubesock, Holyflare
iamperfection [2]: Holyflare, iamperfection, Koshi
Holyflare [2]: Mocsta, Grackaroni
Koshi [1]: KelsierSC
Tubesock [1]: TheSlenderMan
fuba [1]: fuba
Rels [1]: Rels



KelsierSC is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 16 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, which there probably is, let me know.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 16 2018 16:06 GMT
#765
k i'll vote holyflare to save me. Think rayn wanted to kill him too.
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 16:24 GMT
#766
am I in some fucking troll game?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
June 16 2018 16:41 GMT
#767
there is no way holyflare is mafia he could have just voted me for the tenth time stop wasting your votes there. vote kelsier.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 16:55 GMT
#768
On June 17 2018 01:41 iamperfection wrote:
there is no way holyflare is mafia he could have just voted me for the tenth time stop wasting your votes there. vote kelsier.


well I mean I did try and vote for you

but this is the truth
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2018 17:05 GMT
#769
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


Voted hf.

Let iamp pass and is watching cats in trees. Also rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:06 GMT
#770
dunno what to tell you guys

mocsta must be mafia for this because none of the things he has said all game have made the slightest bit of sense

dunno about koshi, I feel like he's pushing in the right spots and then just defaults to shit lynches

grack is opportunistic as fuck

kelsier the same + bad filter

don't understand how it's so hard to lynch the afkers that don't do anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:07 GMT
#771
On June 17 2018 02:05 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare


Voted hf.

Let iamp pass and is watching cats in trees. Also rayn.


Why should I not let iamp pass? This is a very bad post because voting me is "letting iamp pass".

If I am "letting iamp pass" then why the fuck have I been pushing him the entire game after kita interaction?

don't think his post was as bad as you make it out to be
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:08 GMT
#772
especially since it was like 4am and I was playing dota when he posted it so I wasn't concentrating on it and I still don't particularly care what it says
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:10 GMT
#773
thing about kelsier's filter is that it's so unbelievably bad and incorrect I also think it's too bad to be mafia

but I'll continue voting him because fuck him if he's town

rels too
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2018 17:16 GMT
#774
I also thought your analysis was extremely lazty about the votes. But I will read what rayn said during night and think further.

Because your d2 is non existant. Pure reactive play. And especially defensive.

Like iamp posts shitreads and you just troll him a bit.


And this iamp & hf buddy buddy thing that is going on is also pretty smelly
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 16 2018 17:21 GMT
#775
You didn't really care all that much about Kita or Iamp lynch before the end of the day. I don't see why your thought process would jump to a kita/Iamp scum scenario by seeing Kita not voting Iamp. For one thing I don't see how Iamp is ever worth saving for Kita as scum. To me it just seems like you already know Kita is scum and are using that information to point to Iamp as his partner.
On June 14 2018 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
you pretty much just confirmed yourself mafia with iamp kita :D

On June 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to point out that Kita is scared of people coming back and voting him and making him a majority so he hasn't voted iamp who has done absolutely nothing and he even made one offhand comment about him doing nothing. He won't vote to save himself? Or even comment on the iamp wagon people/iamp?


Plus EoD Kita posts looked a lot like a last minute attempt to distance from you. And there's the fact that I really doubt Kita + 2 lurker scum team kills Superbia and that seems to be the alternative to HF scum team.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 16 2018 17:24 GMT
#776
Though Kelsier is pretty much intentionally trying to play as shittily as possible at the moment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:26 GMT
#777
I'll give you a summary of why mocsta is mafia though so maybe you'll do something about it:

1. Picking on things that don't make anyone mafia for illegitimate reasons (Kitaman case was full of incorrect points but when he got corrected he never updated the read, just kept it).

2. Nitpicking incessantly to reach no conclusions. See 90% of his day 1 posts towards me.

3. Continued to scum read kita for non-evolving reasons and not hearing or thinking otherwise.

4. His reads on scummy looking people were too contradictory for absolutely no reason (fuba and rayn day 1 (fuba looks super happy and therefore he's town??? rayn is not scummy because ??????))

5. Inconsistent reads that just get abandoned for no known reasons. (Says Koshi is mafia with Kitaman, calls Slender mafia a bit after that, both reads disappeared, lots of instances of reads like this vanishing).

6. Acting like a dick and attacking the player rather than the posts which if you look in any post-game that Mocsta is in you'll see him comment that this forum is a cesspool because people do that and he would never do it. He does it repeatedly this game and for no good reason.

7. The lead up to the kita lynch. He wants to lynch kita all game but when it comes to it he makes up a reason to vote himself and get off the wagon which enables the iamp wagon to get higher and higher

On June 14 2018 07:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 07:28 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
HF you know what

fuck you.
i want that apology from koshi, and i want to wipe that stupid grin from your face

+ i just got super tied up with EoFY stuff as well

##Unvote
##Vote: Mocsta

I cannot apologize for calling you a dumb townie if you go out like a dumb townie.

Just an fyi.
Well its pointless

im dumb for wanting to vote kita
im dumb for wanting to vote koshi

that only leaves myself..


this was all because koshi called him dumb and koshi was his scum read

On June 14 2018 08:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
Let it be known that I fell for his emotional appeal and wanted to vote iamp. Who is also probably mafia too but still.
acknowledged... vindiction but i prefer koshi

who came out to play when kitaman was in pressure.. koshi
who did koshi target.. kitaman primary voter.. me

maybe kita/koshi/iamp is possible too.

slenderman also comes to my mind
rels is still unknown
need to recheck why ksc chose iamp over kitaman too

on that note, adios


why does koshi leave his pool of scum reads? because of this:

I really liked koshi obsercation about same reads as tubesock but different alignments so neither is in my pool.


but whenever I point out the same thing normally about why this makes someone mafia mocsta has previously said "oh, they can have the same reads but still call someone mafia" so reaching this conclusion is bull shit

8. Why am I in Mocsta's scum list? This observation is why:

On June 16 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2018 07:19 Tubesock wrote:
On June 14 2018 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
iamp and slender are going to show up 2 minutes before the deadline and hammer me.

I can feel it.


Why would a mafia say this if one of iamp or Slender are his partners?

He’s worried about losing control of the lynch and wants it in a direction he likes. But he can’t control two of the afkers. But why not all the afkers? Like KelsierSC?

Ezcellent point and aligns eith what i mentioned too

Totally can see kita / hf / ksc as a unit

On that note. Its the weekend. Will be back later but aus v france tonight so.... sorry. Priorities


but when I've contradicted it with "kelsier was already on the wagon" and tube updates his read and acknowledges it, instead Mocsta does not use this new evidence to update his read but he bull shits a read on me and now I'm a vote

9. now that iamp was a likely lynch with 2 votes????? mocsta, after receiving nothing new and learning nothing from iamp's read post and still having unanswered questions switches to me because it's an easy lynch on absolutely anyone right now and I'm the only one calling him potentially mafia left
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:30 GMT
#778
On June 17 2018 02:21 Grackaroni wrote:
You didn't really care all that much about Kita or Iamp lynch before the end of the day. I don't see why your thought process would jump to a kita/Iamp scum scenario by seeing Kita not voting Iamp. For one thing I don't see how Iamp is ever worth saving for Kita as scum. To me it just seems like you already know Kita is scum and are using that information to point to Iamp as his partner.
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
you pretty much just confirmed yourself mafia with iamp kita :D

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to point out that Kita is scared of people coming back and voting him and making him a majority so he hasn't voted iamp who has done absolutely nothing and he even made one offhand comment about him doing nothing. He won't vote to save himself? Or even comment on the iamp wagon people/iamp?


Plus EoD Kita posts looked a lot like a last minute attempt to distance from you. And there's the fact that I really doubt Kita + 2 lurker scum team kills Superbia and that seems to be the alternative to HF scum team.


to a lesser player it might look that way

to a person taking votes out of context it might look that way

to an intelligent handsome man that can look at a simple vote count and another player's intentions it's easy to determine that interaction between the largest vote counted player vs the second wagon

it's not fucking rocket science either, how is it hard to reach this conclusion? Iamp is a shitter that has posted nothing, kita (as any alignment) should be worried about being lynched so I theorised that a player that doesn't vote an easy scummy lurker that he even posted about being scummy to save himself must make him mafia together with that person

I put myself in that position as either alignment and thought what I'd do. As town I would just vote to save myself and still make cases/pushes on who I think is mafia. As mafia, if Iamp was my partner I would just try and divert and last minute switch to save myself. If I am mafia and Iamp is town I just vote him and make up some bull shit. Maybe even try shenanigans.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:31 GMT
#779
Also to add to the kita thing, his emotional crap really did appeal to me enough that I was actually going to lynch iamp. I looked at the votes, saw everybody I hated on that wagon and saw slenderman (who looked really weird eod) on there and I wanted to bail asap.

and yeah that distancing point is bs really because he was mafia so nothing he says means anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2018 17:31 GMT
#780
didn't make sense to me at the time but if it gets people (like you) to make an excuse to vote me then his plan kind of worked, no?
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