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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 07:37 GMT
#309
On June 12 2018 16:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 16:20 Holyflare wrote:
The nk is super weird and it makes me think about Mocsta being mafia more and more. Not only does he talk about medic dodging but a Superbia kill effectively gives no information and was imo a waste of a nk since he'd done nothing.
u farny

BTW, do you note the self-contradiction by stating superbia gives no information (optimal for mafia) and in parallel state it was a waste of nk (presumably because it wasnt you lol)

i really dont recall you randomly throwing rocks to see what shatters... hmmmm.. should i be reading this last game of yours?


This is exactly why I think it implicates you. I don't give a crap about giving no information. I just nk people that oppose me and give the game life via talking a lot until it's a dead thread and you command it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 07:39 GMT
#310
On June 12 2018 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
I kinda doubt I'm getting shot, but if I do rayn and Mocsta should be the ones you guys focus on tomorrow. I still need to do a reread myself since I've only really skimmed the n1 stuff.

I really have no idea who the third could be. I could honestly come up for a reason for basically every other player why they could be mafia aside from tube and slender and that's only because they haven't posted anything.

They obviously all can't be mafia, but at the same time I'm also starting to get concerned about the assumption that only 1 of them is scum if its rayn + mocsta. Late game is going to be a complete mess at this rate.

-super started out okayish, but has shown no interest in yesterday's lynch.
-fuba has no reads and then shows up with the ninja Palmar vote
-Rels seems like he threw out a post because he needed to say something, but it doesn't seem like he strongly believes anything he has said and just calls a bunch of stuff weird
-koshi threw away his vote when he could have hammered rayn, but I guess he wasn't obligated to post that he was around or preferred rayn over Palmar
-KSC no idea
-iamp is posting nothing but throw away comments that aren't relevant to the game aside from the rayn vote
-HF's most recent post about me being mafia has me a bit concerned because we basically share the same top two scum reads. Doesn't seem very consistent from his viewpoint.
-grack threw away his vote when rayn was the logical choice for him.

Guess we'll see who flips and go from there.


I think this is an extremely surface level post that is effectively a glorified list post that says the whole game could be mafia. Pretty bad imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 08:16 GMT
#314
Yes but I didn't make it my "last will" and I didn't waste my time writing about every player in the game when I said it in one sentence.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 11:27 GMT
#322
On June 12 2018 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lynch him on D4 when hr is not dead.
##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Lol lynch him d4 but vote him now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 19:39 GMT
#340
that's the most bull shit point I've ever heard though?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 20:34 GMT
#346
On June 13 2018 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
He explains that more fully here:

Which I think is actually correct logic.
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 14:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 12 2018 14:25 Mocsta wrote:
On June 12 2018 14:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes
is that purely by association with kita?

no, he just came out of a game where he played quite townie. I would assume he would try to emulate that as mafia since he sure as hell is capable of it. Also the eod1 incriminates him for those black-and-white thinkers (which this game is apparently full of) and there is not really any scum reason for him to do what he did unless he wants to gain my trust which isn't really hot fuzz atm.



You're defending rayn's logic of calling you town at eod as an example of why he called you town at the start of the day with 0 posts?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2018 20:35 GMT
#347
Sure, his eod points make sense. His early day points don't exist and if they do they're wildly exaggerated or tmi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 06:42 GMT
#369
That's convenient.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 06:48 GMT
#370
On June 13 2018 08:19 Mocsta wrote:
The observation that rayns reads lines up with thread sentiment to rayn is actually very good.
But this is why you are scum kita...
Your forte... the associated analysis.. well, its terrible.

See, to me, bar KSC.. rayn has organically shown how those reads were reached in my opinion. This makes your observation a coincidence.
Like, we cant get hamstrung on the KSC/superbia thing because IT WAS EARLY GAME. and unfortunately, KSC has done fuck all since so there is no genuine opportunity to ask Rayn (or others) to re-evaluate.


How did he show how he thought grack was town after grack posted two posts?

How does Superbia's filter align with someone who doesn't care what people think?

Same with kelsier.

Those reads were so bull shit it's ridiculous. Where does it show they don't care? Superbia posted 3 names and afked? Kelsier did absolutely nothing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 06:50 GMT
#371
I think it's quite ridiculous/scummy how you have an answer to defend people at every turn that you shouldn't really have. It's not normal to look at things like that and say it was a fluid thing that makes sense because it does not.

I think that you know rayn is probably town so in your mind these conclusions look good because you know rayn was being genuine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 06:52 GMT
#372
Mocsta/fuba are probably our best lynches today. I'd edge towards fuba personally.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 07:50 GMT
#373
Maybe mocsta actually
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 09:59 GMT
#376
On June 13 2018 17:59 Mocsta wrote:
HF:
I clearly mention the early game points you refer to.
I don't think its heavily relevant unless Rayn still thinks KSC is town - which frankly I would be shocked.

To say that Rayn threw out a town read early game as a crucifiable point is you being obtuse; because you haven't demonstrated how that read lead to a scum agenda. Its not like those people were under pressure to be lynched and that was used as a defense, and arguably it wasnt a pocket attempt either.

Not everyone is so smart and wise that they are so consistent in their thought process from start to finish to not have contradictions or opposting points of view - unlike you HF of course...


Your filter this game is the epitome of everything you espouse to hate. Little niggles at the player rather than accusations or content. You say you despise people calling other people stupid etc but you just do it in more subtle ways. I don't think you're town at all because all these things add up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 10:00 GMT
#377
Do you scum read me? If no, then the highlighted is just there to diminish the player's integrity rather than anything else.

If you do scum read me then you haven't said a single thing about it and it's a waste of time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 10:03 GMT
#378
On June 11 2018 13:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Superbia and Rels. Could you guys talk to me? Mocsta is town and Holyflare is super tunneled so i am just going to ignore him for the rest of the game.

I understand i am probably going to get lynched tomorrow what you guys need to do after that is lynch kitaman. Mocsta is correct in that kitaman is over and over again presenting a damned if you do, damned if you dont arguments. Look at what i said about him earlier. Look at Mocsta's posts. Look at the time where he says "nothing is set in stone and i am constantly reconsidering" or some bs like that, when i confronted him about already deciding i am mafia and then still questioning Palmar. Then Palmar answers his question with "scummy post" comment and look at all the amount of him reconsidering. Do you think an "answer" like that should make him reconsider? I mean like, at best the dude is the worst hypocrite in the game and i do not really think that is what town!kitaman is. Also there is the calling Grackaroni town.

Superbia talk to me about iamperfection. The guy has been a total trashcan in this game and from what i know he is a trashcan when he is mafia, so yeah, i can easily see him being mafia. I just couldn't see 3 mafia jumping on me like that because it's very retarded thing to do in my opinion regardless of the outcome of the lynch.

I kind of sorta agree with fuba being weird. Otherwise i would think he is mafia but there was a time where he made a post where he already set in voting for me and decided against it in the end. I mean if i was fuba i would totally lynch rayn who plays over garbage Palmar. I am not sure why he wouldn't as scum do that?

Grackaroni is probably still not scum, because kitaman is scum, and if he was scum he would most likely have made sure i get lynched.

Koshi can be mafia. I actually thought at the same thing Mocsta did earlier, that the vote on Rels was a "vote on townie", like he said lol. It's probably not what he meant but now that Rels has actually posted stuff, Koshi should do something. We will see, he can easily be mafia anyways.


Rayn addresses this post to rels and Superbia which I thought was really weird at the time. I still don't understand where his Superbia read stemmed from and his rels read is unexplained in this post but he addresses them as if they are both town.

Even does it again to Superbia to talk about iamp.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 11:42 GMT
#381
On June 13 2018 20:00 Mocsta wrote:
Hf
Why did you drop kitaman out of your lynch pool


Because what he said today wasn't awful. He's not out of my scummy pool just would rather lynch someone else today.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 14:46 GMT
#383
On June 13 2018 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
think perfection is a good vote , him or kitamin are good but kitamin seems to have been posting more stuff.



And why are they "good votes" over lurker x, y and z?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 16:25 GMT
#392
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 16:34 GMT
#396
On June 14 2018 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?

Oh another retard.

Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck.

And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit.


If you read them then you should know if they are surface level posts or not. You then proceed to call them good posts.

How can you read them and think they're good but have no idea if they're surface level?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 18:09 GMT
#407
On June 14 2018 01:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2018 01:30 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?

Oh another retard.

Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck.

And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit.


If you read them then you should know if they are surface level posts or not. You then proceed to call them good posts.

How can you read them and think they're good but have no idea if they're surface level?

I don't want to talk to you. Read my posts. Or don't.
If you don't understand simple shit like this I don't really give a fuck.


Mate you just pulled out a kita post and questioned his conclusion and basically said it's surface level. Don't expect anyone to listen to what you say if you can't even keep your story straight
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