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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 11:42 GMT
#381
On June 13 2018 20:00 Mocsta wrote:
Hf
Why did you drop kitaman out of your lynch pool


Because what he said today wasn't awful. He's not out of my scummy pool just would rather lynch someone else today.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 13 2018 13:08 GMT
#382
think perfection is a good vote , him or kitamin are good but kitamin seems to have been posting more stuff.

Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 14:46 GMT
#383
On June 13 2018 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
think perfection is a good vote , him or kitamin are good but kitamin seems to have been posting more stuff.



And why are they "good votes" over lurker x, y and z?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 15:41 GMT
#384
On June 13 2018 07:14 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 23:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta
Rayn
HF

In order of towniness. I feel pretty good about this much. I misread HF last game but there were a lot of signs that I didn't pick up on in retrospect. His posts are much more investigatory and I think he picks up on worthwhile things to push in his Fuba/Grackaroni posts. Last game he basically just chose strong targets and attempted to spew them as scum like Fuba said. I have a different feel towards him this game than last game.

I want to lynch Koshi for his Mocsta read. We usually have pretty similar reads on things and Mocsta's posts after the day 1 flip are extremely townie and (imo) entertaining to read:

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2018 08:22 Mocsta wrote:
right HF. keep being big mommy and berating everyone.

you're just as bad as kita. damned if you do, damned if you don't.
what, so i am the only one voting kita and then you would say why i wasted my vote.

we dont even know rayn alignment and you are shitting on everyone.
GTFO.

the only post i have somewhat respect for is #201. keep that up pls.

On June 11 2018 08:51 Mocsta wrote:
#208 regarding me is highly superficial
i have discussed rayns kita read. In fact, theres probably 3-4 posts between me + rayn on it.

how have I misconstrued anything?
for someone that is talking about finding information to narrow things down, you are doing a heck of job of predetermining outcomes.

secondly. regarding mafia faux pas, and its converse = town mentality.
The only person in my opinion that has actively tried to narrow down things beyond early game is rayn. your #1 target.

Since the palmar flip, you can paint your posts in whatever colours you want.
The facts remain.
You have demonstrated zero disposition to reconsider rayn content.
You have demonstrated zero disposition to consider people outside rayn.
You have demonstrated disposition towards berating those that did not vote rayn.

There is too little content in the game to be tunneled. I find this scummy.


#207 is outright stupid.
Why should i be focused on team pairings. Associations is always POST FLIP.
I thought kita was meant to be an analytical player?

On June 11 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote:
#213 i can see your perspective, but i dont undrestand why you hold it.

like fuba to me reads like a feeler rather than a thinker.
Why would you hold him to the same cold hard logical disposition of an introverted thinker?

in my opinion, a feeler is more likely to cotton onto other arguments to join bandwagons, rather than put up blank positions that people like you can instantly shit on.

Happy to be proven wrong from a meta dive if you can point in the right direction.
i suspect im not far off the mark though.



On June 12 2018 19:59 Koshi wrote:
I think from all players i like mocsta the least. Mafia wise I mean ofc

Really does almost nothing

On June 12 2018 20:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe Ido him short but his posts are the most boring and he just repeats the content of posts others made

Yawn

I think Koshi is just choosing Mocsta because he seems lynchable based off HF/Kitaman pressure rather than this being his own read. Also I suspect that the Superbia night kill was made by either Koshi or Rels.

Voting Koshi.
I am seeing the light.
I note that Koshi avoided giving me a read on Kitaman too.

Retard
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 15:44 GMT
#385
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 15:47 GMT
#386
On June 13 2018 08:19 Mocsta wrote:
The observation that rayns reads lines up with thread sentiment to rayn is actually very good.
But this is why you are scum kita...

Your forte... the associated analysis.. well, its terrible.

See, to me, bar KSC.. rayn has organically shown how those reads were reached in my opinion. This makes your observation a coincidence.
Like, we cant get hamstrung on the KSC/superbia thing because IT WAS EARLY GAME. and unfortunately, KSC has done fuck all since so there is no genuine opportunity to ask Rayn (or others) to re-evaluate.

retard.

You are mafia or just fucking dumb imho.


Maybe I am wrong. But this is the dumbest shit I read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 15:48 GMT
#387
On June 13 2018 16:50 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe mocsta actually

You are my first townread for a reason.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 15:50 GMT
#388
On June 13 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:
HF:
We dont play the same and frankly you call me mafia every game no matter what i do, because of this.
I'm pretty tired of you getting fixated on round pegs that fit round holes, thinking they should be square.
I'm going to keep calling out these posts of yours, so get used to it.

This is where i am at anyways
Holyflare
Rayn
fuba
kitaman27
tubesock
koshi
Rels
KelsierSC
iamperfection
Grackaroni
TheSlenderMan

Holy is intention half green as hes the weakest of my town circle.
Whilst the timing of fuba claim is questionable, I am inclined to outright believe it because of the observation Grack identified prior. That observation solidifies Grack as confirmed town for me as well.

I think HF is focusing on whats in front of him, cos 40% of the game is AFK. But overall I think the game is solved in that list of red and black.

In short this cycle: Kitaman27 >> Koshi >> Anyone else.


To town: Lynching Mocsta is good even if he is town.
To mafia: Holy fuck you must love Mocsta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:18 GMT
#389
I'll do some effort. I am at a pc since a long time and why the fuck not. And if I am lynched I can shrug and live with the fact the townies on me had information to decide correctly.

1. Holyflare
Town - I said why
4. raynpelikoneet
Can't read his posts because they are boring as fuck.
5. fuba
Blue claim and will believe it. Dumb as fuck claim unless he was going to get lynched and I think he might be so ok for me.
6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia. Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol.

7. Tubesock
See my earlier townread on him. It was explained.
Then this post:
On June 12 2018 05:03 Tubesock wrote:
I liked most all of HF stuff.

I think Mocsta was the one berating and misconstruing. I haven’t liked any of Mocsta’s posts.

I’m also not really a fan of Gracks eod performance. But it’s only scummy if Rayn is mafia. I’m leaning more towards Rayn being town.

Everyone is pretty null. Although Kita made me laugh with two of his posts. And I don’t like to kill people who make me laugh.

Let's just lynch Mocsta and if he is mafia we have some confirmed townies and can be happy.


8. Mocsta
Really Mocsta. No offense. I like you. Also you think I am mafia so in the rare case you are town just see this as a mafia annoying you trying to tilt you.

If Mocsta is town, he is (more likely) extremely wrong this game. (kita is not mafia, I am not mafia)
If Mocsta is town, he is boring as fuck to read. Really fucking boring posts imo.
If Mocsta is town, he bickers with people (ex. Tube) and not doing a lot of working together with people to solve the game.
If Mocsta is town, he is super m33k towards HF and rayn and again he is not making posts towards them that look townie. He is not trying to push his will on them, just greasing them or something. It's dirty.

And all in all I don't believe Mocsta scumreads kita but is just mafia defending against with OMGUS.

10. Rels
Should have killed this shitter D1 like I told you. Still looks like horseshit even if iamp is mafia or rayn town or w.e he said in his little post is true. Lynch this fucker.


11. KelsierSC
More trash for the trashcan

12. iamperfection
He is mafia more likely. I would lynch him over Rels and Kelsier. Because the other 2 are more likely to be trash and town than iamp.

13. Grackaroni
Could be mafia taking the backseat adjusting his reads correctly when sentiment shifts. So could be dangerous mafia. But we probably can't lynch him till the trash is taken out. Also haven't reread his filter.


14. TheSlenderMan
Trash for the trashcan.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:20 GMT
#390
Also if the people described as trash for the trashcan take offense:

I would also describe myself as that before the post you got offended by and my realization that Mocsta needs to go asap and the fact I voted Mocsta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:21 GMT
#391
In unrelated news:
I forgot to vote in the votethread.
##Vote: Mocsta
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 16:25 GMT
#392
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:27 GMT
#393
Just read rayn and he is the main reason Palmar died and is calling Mocsta town.

I am assuming he is town and terribly wrong.

rayn


Maybe I should read Kita his case but this is why I think rayn might be town:
1) I like the tone of his posts. For example it has some ego in it. "my reads are pretty good lately" & "I only care about being right"
2) He is pushing the game forward with his reads/posts and not reacting to reads (I think) (For example the Palmar read)
3) He is so fucking wrong HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. rayn as mafia more likely just plays into thread sentiment writing what people want to hear and predicts where the thread ends up. This rayn is imo (due to my reads) more likely completely fucking wrong. And that is why he is getting votes from townies. Because he is wrong. Not because he is mafia.

Anyway. That is enough. I shall read what Kita said about rayn. I ignored that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:30 GMT
#394
On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

Show nested quote +
6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?

Oh another retard.

Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck.

And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:31 GMT
#395
oh and mocsta

I will yield and say he is mafia. And not hide behind horrible as fuck townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 13 2018 16:34 GMT
#396
On June 14 2018 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?

Oh another retard.

Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck.

And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit.


If you read them then you should know if they are surface level posts or not. You then proceed to call them good posts.

How can you read them and think they're good but have no idea if they're surface level?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:36 GMT
#397
On June 12 2018 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Screw it i don't really think Grackaroni is mafia either.


Everyone look back at the way rayn casually throws a town read on grack and tell me it it looks legitimate to you guys.

Here is the entirety of grack's filter at the time of the post.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Never fear old chums -- GRACKARONI is on the HUNT.

None can evade the penetrating gaze of my frothing noodles.


On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana?

I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas.


Two throw away posts and then one more.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 04:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 10 2018 03:22 Superbia wrote:
this game seems to be going p well, carry on

iap
mocsta
rayn?

Yes indeed

Superbia
Palmar
RELS??


A scum list of 3 players.

Now he obviously agrees with the Palmar read, but how about the other two?

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like Superbia and Kelsier the most so far


Well Rels hasn't entered the game yet and Superbia is his strongest town read! So why is grack suddenly town for a list post where he agrees with 1/3 names on the list? Why isn't he questioning grack about the superbia read considering he doesn't see any evidence to support it?

rayn suddenly having an epiphany with a town read on grack just seems so out of place at this point.

Then when I directly confront him about it, he twists it around on me without an explanation as if I'm the one that is looking scummy for finding the inconsistency. He doesn't bother trying to justify the read because he knows he can't and someone picked up on it so he goes full offense.

This is weak Kita.
Why isn't this town!rayn just doing things because he is town and he can do things?
Maybe his thought process simply isn't in the thread. The epiphany doesn't make rayn mafia, unless you can proof mafia motivation, it might just be town rayn seeing something and feeling something click in his head that made Grack town.

The part about him attacking you I don't remember from thread but not justifying yourself towards a townie and just go blatant offense sounds actually townie.
That's what townies do and mafia don't do. Mafia do it when theyy are really cornered and it is their last hope.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:37 GMT
#398
On June 14 2018 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 01:30 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2018 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2018 00:03 Koshi wrote:
Kita tries hard but I like it
This read is consistent with the comment made about rayn
Take back comment b4.
Didnt see this.

What makes you say he is trying hard?
all i see is surface level content and questions that lead no where...

Oh ok. Due to earlier bluntness I shall answer this one.

Kita types many words in a game you don't need to type many words.
I did no research if the many words have complicated thought process behind them.
But I am quite sure he doesn't have to attack so many people.

Anyway. If he is mafia he is hardtrying on an insane level.

6. kitaman27
Can't be fucking mafia showing this much effort and I actually like to read his posts because they seems smart but I will glance his filter and write another sentence.
I think this guy is town because his reads line up with mine and he has made a lot of small smart reads that people don't bother reading because they are retarded fucks or mafia.
Anyway, if he is mafia he is one of the best mafia players out there. Who is mafia and reads and understand the game on this level when not a single townie gives a fuck??? lol


?? How do you know if you say you haven't read them?

Oh another retard.

Where the fuck did I say I didn't read them? I literally said I read them. You even bolded that part you dumb fuck.

And there is a huge difference between understanding the full game and how people think and why they think what they think and just glancing and looking if people type up smart or really indepth shit.


If you read them then you should know if they are surface level posts or not. You then proceed to call them good posts.

How can you read them and think they're good but have no idea if they're surface level?

I don't want to talk to you. Read my posts. Or don't.
If you don't understand simple shit like this I don't really give a fuck.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:39 GMT
#399
Anyway.

There is always a chance Kita/rayn/HF/Tube are mafia and I am wrong but the past 1.5 years have shown I am always more on the right side than the wrong side. And most of the time on the really really right side.


But maybe this is the game I am really wrong. Who knows these things?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2018 16:41 GMT
#400
Kita/rayn/HF/Tube
Mocsta, iamp

I will do this for now. If you don't vote in the reds just vote me lol.
Because I won't show more commitment towards this game than I just did.


Also. If you fucks would read filters you would see how many people have issues with Mocsta. It's incredible actually.
I had a good night of sleep.
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