EPTWhat did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy.
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kitaman27
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What did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy. | ||
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kitaman27
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You say that the mafia team is kita, plus 1 of Palmar and rayn, but a kita + rayn scumteam makes no sense in any stretch of the imagination. Do you still even view that as a possibility because you never even come close to showing a willingness to vote him? I'm not twisted your words, you're up in arms about a joke post 9 minutes into the game. Suggesting that I'm mafia for putting too much effort into a joke post is silly. As for the rayn stuff, he had a 24 hour chance to call Palmar mafia but didn't until Palmar threw out a vote and then he went full omgus. | ||
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kitaman27
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On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote: I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches so I said that anticipating criticism of Rayn being lynched over Palmar and me throwing away my vote instead of voting a main wagon. Anticipating criticism? How do you know he wasn't going to flip mafia? For what it's worth a rayn + grack scum team doesn't make a ton of sense in my opinion based on the earlier plea from rayn. meh guess we'll see where the night shot goes and go from there. | ||
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kitaman27
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On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote: I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches On June 11 2018 01:13 Grackaroni wrote: No I don't think so I would expect my filter to piss him off. Why wasn't rayn's seemingly fake town read on you enough to feel stronger that he was mafia? Like I said earlier, he went out of his way to call you town at a point in the game where you hadn't even really said anything. | ||
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On June 10 2018 17:35 Mocsta wrote: kitamin27 On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote: kitamin On June 10 2018 21:26 Mocsta wrote: Kitamin On June 10 2018 22:07 Mocsta wrote: kitamin. On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote: kitamin On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote: kitamin On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote: kitamin On June 11 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote: kitamin On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote: Kitamin On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote: We clearly dot i's and cross t's differently. Maybe you should stop dotting your i's altogether. BECAUSE I'M NOT A VITAMIN. | ||
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I only share my secrets with townies though so until you do something, anything at all, you'll never know. | ||
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I really have no idea who the third could be. I could honestly come up for a reason for basically every other player why they could be mafia aside from tube and slender and that's only because they haven't posted anything. They obviously all can't be mafia, but at the same time I'm also starting to get concerned about the assumption that only 1 of them is scum if its rayn + mocsta. Late game is going to be a complete mess at this rate. -super started out okayish, but has shown no interest in yesterday's lynch. -fuba has no reads and then shows up with the ninja Palmar vote -Rels seems like he threw out a post because he needed to say something, but it doesn't seem like he strongly believes anything he has said and just calls a bunch of stuff weird -koshi threw away his vote when he could have hammered rayn, but I guess he wasn't obligated to post that he was around or preferred rayn over Palmar -KSC no idea -iamp is posting nothing but throw away comments that aren't relevant to the game aside from the rayn vote -HF's most recent post about me being mafia has me a bit concerned because we basically share the same top two scum reads. Doesn't seem very consistent from his viewpoint. -grack threw away his vote when rayn was the logical choice for him. Guess we'll see who flips and go from there. | ||
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kitaman27
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I'm not really sure what to make of the superbia shot as his day one was rather lackluster. Tube looks pretty good now that he's entered the thread. Koshi I kinda have a gut read as the townish side of null for #198. Grack's reasoning for his vote pattern was scummy, but the way he admitted to screwing up rather than trying to justify things seems a bit genuine. I don't want to lynch into anyone other than rayn or mocsta this cycle at this point. More on them when I get the chance. | ||
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kitaman27
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People that are defending rayn are focusing too much on whether or not rayn had a valid reason for thinking Palmar was mafia. Palmar's play sucked. It's whatever. That's not what makes rayn look so bad in my opinion. It's the way he waited to go hard against Palmar until later and the way all his views on players in this game are based on whether they town or mafia read him. 1) Palmar scum reads rayn but doesn't want to deal with it during the weekend 2) rayn calls the read in-genuine but leaves it at that 3) Several players including Palmar vote rayn making him the top vote candidate. 4) Palmar is 100% mafia and votes him 5) rayn attacks kita for his vote 6) casts suspicion onto iamp for his vote 7) rayn buddies up to the individuals who are on his side of the wagon 8) rayn survives the lynch 9) Kita is 100% mafia and votes him 10) HF is now 100% mafia and votes him too after a very leading question about "why is he alive" and having the chance to engage him in the thread. Wants to vote for HF day 4 though so why isn't he still pushing kita as the main lynch? He seems more interesting in attacking whoever is directly opposing him at the time. | ||
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On June 10 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Screw it i don't really think Grackaroni is mafia either. Everyone look back at the way rayn casually throws a town read on grack and tell me it it looks legitimate to you guys. Here is the entirety of grack's filter at the time of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: Never fear old chums -- GRACKARONI is on the HUNT. None can evade the penetrating gaze of my frothing noodles. On June 09 2018 09:16 Grackaroni wrote: Man of 27 kitas, could you send me a banana? I am all out of bananas. I have heard that you have the bananas. Two throw away posts and then one more. A scum list of 3 players. Now he obviously agrees with the Palmar read, but how about the other two? On June 10 2018 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like Superbia and Kelsier the most so far Well Rels hasn't entered the game yet and Superbia is his strongest town read! So why is grack suddenly town for a list post where he agrees with 1/3 names on the list? Why isn't he questioning grack about the superbia read considering he doesn't see any evidence to support it? rayn suddenly having an epiphany with a town read on grack just seems so out of place at this point. Then when I directly confront him about it, he twists it around on me without an explanation as if I'm the one that is looking scummy for finding the inconsistency. He doesn't bother trying to justify the read because he knows he can't and someone picked up on it so he goes full offense. | ||
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On June 09 2018 20:30 Mocsta wrote: kita is mafia for going to the effort of splitting kelsier post into mini quotes BiG job right thurr.. and for what??? On June 09 2018 23:32 Mocsta wrote: You dont think its weird to dig for quotes from 2015? Too stupid to be conceived pregame and too much effort for a game we are too busy to play. He starts off the game accusing me of being mafia for my joke post about KSC because I'm putting in too much effort. 1) KSC's post was made pre-game and obviously can't be interpreted as alignment indicative 2) I clearly wasn't trying to argue that KSC was mafia by poking fun at his busy comment 3) In what world do I think I'm going to earn myself town cred as mafia but throwing together a bunch of quotes. Who here looked at that post as thought "wow look at that! kita really is try harding this game. Town leader material for sure"? On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote:mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita. I called him out for the forced read and then he immediately spins it back to me. It's pretty clear that he's already made up his mind that I'm mafia at this point. His explanation about how mafia know more info day 1 isn't relevant in the slightest to the fact that he is suspicious of my joke post. The fact that rayn instantly town reads mocsta is what creeps me out even more. No way a town rayn takes a look at mocsta's try hard KSC post argument and finds it valid. He conveniently never actually comments on that, rather than instantly shooting it down the bad logic like HF. On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote: i think you are over exaggerating the intensity of his vote on you. Then he follows up his attack on me by calling the way I treated rayn as scummy. However he ignores that argument that's being made. This post seems as if he views my vote on rayn as an early game feeler vote to get a reaction from rayn, but why would he take this perspective if Mocsta thinks I'm mafia? If I'm mafia then vote intensity seems irrelevant since I'm trying to push the mislynch. Furthermore, he ignores the rayn town read on grack as part of my case and focuses only on the Palmar stuff, while ignoring the way rayn goes about it. On June 12 2018 15:03 Mocsta wrote: Regardless of fuba/grack being the same timestamp, grack 90% sealed rayn fate when he voted iamp. kita/grack/?iamp? as a 3-way? Why regardless? Isn't that relevant? What are you trying to argue here? That me and grack conspired to keep rayn alive? rayn reached majority first so he was getting lynched at the time of the iamp vote, which means we had to anticipate the fuba vote, and then have grack ready for the failed hammer in an effort to get one townie lynched over another townie? That all seems so convoluted that I'm really struggling that think that you actually believe it as a scenario rather than just throwing out random stuff as an attempt to make it seem like you're trying to figure things out. | ||
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On June 11 2018 01:13 Grackaroni wrote: No I don't think so I would expect my filter to piss him off. You even agreed that the logic wasn't what you would expect from rayn, but now you're defending the read? The only part from that latest quote that really is relevant to his initial read is his comparison to last game, but that explanation seems more like he is coming to a conclusion first and then providing an explanation. For instance, look how I could come to the exact opposite conclusion depending on how I want to frame it: 1) Last game Grack looked really townie 2) This game Grack looks nothing like his town play that he sure is capable of Therefore, Grack is mafia because he is playing so different. What specifically do you disagree with about Mocsta by the way? | ||
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kitaman27
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On June 13 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote: Sure, his eod points make sense. His early day points don't exist and if they do they're wildly exaggerated or tmi. On June 10 2018 08:52 Holyflare wrote: vote in vote thread Your turn. Gotta run, but I'll look over your response tonight grack. | ||
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kitaman27
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On June 13 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote: What is this even saying in red and bold? Red = scummy, Point in bold is absolutely neutral, yet is written as townish. What is it... I lean town on him if it wasn't clear. | ||
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