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TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 14 2018 20:44 GMT
#641
Could see kitaman-Koshi-Tubesock making a LOT of sense, in case that wasn't clear.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 14 2018 22:30 GMT
#644
If 67% of the pool is Rels+Kelsier, that's too convenient.

The lazy solution to the game is never the correct one.

Why am I not in your pool, Tube?
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 14 2018 23:17 GMT
#648
Was hoping rayn would've had time for a long post before PC. Oh well.

Going to go Vote Tubesock in the Vote-thread now. Here's the case:
On June 12 2018 05:03 Tubesock wrote:
I liked most all of HF stuff.

I think Mocsta was the one berating and misconstruing. I haven’t liked any of Mocsta’s posts.

I’m also not really a fan of Gracks eod performance. But it’s only scummy if Rayn is mafia. I’m leaning more towards Rayn being town.

Everyone is pretty null. Although Kita made me laugh with two of his posts. And I don’t like to kill people who make me laugh.
This is the post I paraphrased earlier thusly: "I've decided to sheep HF this game. I want to make a remark about Grack's EoD1 but I have TMI so I point out that what he did isn't OBJECTIVELY Scummy, so I won't pursue what should be a subjectively interesting possibility [for me] of finding Mafia. I end the post mentioning one of my Scumbuddies in an off-handed joke."

The next moment you elaborate on Grack, you change your mind about what formed the basis of your earlier read?
On June 12 2018 11:30 Tubesock wrote:
For anyone who’s played more with Grack:

I think of Grack as a player who normally doesn’t really care what the rest of the players think about him. I’ve been in and seen him in games go completely against the tide and not care at all if people scum read him. Fearless.

I think him worrying about how his vote would look right after a “It’s SHENANNY time!” Post is very strange.

Am I wrong? (Not to mention why he wouldn’t just kill rayn because it seemed he wanted him dead more so than Palmar)


This post also looks pretty bad. There's the soft-defending of kitaman, for one thing. But there's also the fact that you have "decided" to suspect iamperfection, while Mocsta's the person you've paid more attention to. Not just by your own direct admission, but also because you say you've liked HF's content, and you went out of your separate way to mention Mocsta in your first catch-up and reads -post.
On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.

Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.

Why not kitaman?


I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking?

Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re
Town so there’s that.


When it comes to your iamperfection-suspicion, you remain passive aggressive. You don't pursue it, you don't ask questions. Instead you just keep pointing out that it's a thing and it should be a thing for the rest of us as well -- but your Vote just kind of ends up remaining there until the very end of the Phase. Even though a LOT happened in the mean time.

And then you weren't around to help save kitaman EoD2. And your posts since the flip have been one-liners.

And the soft-defending of kitaman I mentioned earlier also happened in all of your other comments regarding him.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:06 GMT
#909
Got sick yesterday, almost forgot the deadline is today. I see ten new pages before me and a mainwagon I did not expect.

So. Probably my Vote won't make a difference. But if anyone would be able to give a little helpful TL;DR as I try to go through today, I'd appreciate it.

What I saw from Koshi yesterday [early D2] seemed a lot better. Tube also was a bit better but not to the same extent. This leaves me feeling quite confused, and it's probably not just because of the sickness.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:35 GMT
#927
I've read enough to think HF should never ever be Lynched today, this wagon is just wrong and the way it came out of nowhere is Suspicious. Pretty much the only thing I feel confident about.

I still need to wrap my head around Mocsta, I can see the points and am not able to argue against them but I have this impression it's Mocsta's eccentricity (no offense meant but I can't find a better word here) that muddies things over. But I don't ACTUALLY know his meta so I could just be giving some benefit of doubt when it's not earned.

The same goes for Rels, he could be displaying TMI or he could just be even more eager than "master Rayn" -koshi to sheep EVERYTHING he sees rayn say and the feeling I've got is it's the latter.

Something about the presence I've seen from Grack makes me worried.

iamp's "reads" have seemed suuper lazy.

Kelsier being on the HF-wagon seems mighty, mighty weird. Haven't seen the post yet where he actually Votes.

Bah, maybe I just misread kitaman's interactions with Mocsta and have simply been wrong.

Anyways, will by the EoD change my Vote to something that saves HF. That wagon is just a really, really bad idea.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:38 GMT
#929
I suppose wanting to sheep rayn to the max doesn't mean Rels couldn't be lazy!Mafia just as equally as he could be lazy!Town. Ugh.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:47 GMT
#935
Wait what, Tubesock, how did you unvoting just now "help HF to not get Lynched"? The wagon you were on is the only established one that could've formed a counterwagon!
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:52 GMT
#948
On June 17 2018 07:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Slender who is your top lynch right now?
That depends if Mocsta is just really, REALLY eccentric as a player, or if him not making any sense in his progressions (and even trying to take credit for stuff he actually never said or did) is an actual Scumtell.

Could be Mocsta if it's the latter.

Asking my fever-ridden gut rn I'd actually say you, Grack, but I don't have any concrete case against you. Just the feelz after the skim I tried to do just now.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 22:55 GMT
#950
Kelsier-wagon was at two. At two you staying in it never interrupts with the HF-wagon dying.

But oh well that's not relevant during that last 5 minutes.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 23:09 GMT
#972
Rels, I would've always found an excuse to Vote iamp over kita D2 if I was the third one.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 23:19 GMT
#978
On June 17 2018 08:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2018 08:09 TheSlenderMan wrote:
Rels, I would've always found an excuse to Vote iamp over kita D2 if I was the third one.

the idea behind this argument being that kita being alive is more valuable than iamp for the scumteam?
Yes. And joining the iamp-wagon would've been really, really easy. As Mafia I wouldn't need to even start "suspecting" kitaman in the first place -- his posting style is analytical and convincing enough that no one would think worse of me for not following up on the earlier mention of kitaman.

Not that I'd care too much about being Mislynched at this point if we can just narrow down the pool to an auto-win.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 23:27 GMT
#981
Tube, you really can just do what HF suggested -- take a look at Mocsta's filter, start from #548, and notice that he lacks consistency and/or coherency. Doesn't really take a deep look to notice that.

What I'm personally still undecided on is whether it's simply Mocsta's personality coming through. When I joined the game, Mocsta was initially one of the people who most strongly troubled me (in the sense that I found him suspicious). Then I noticed I had mostly misunderstood what he had tried to say. Like, atleast for me his posts in GENERAL are really hard to read and understand, and it seems to me the lack of coherency is related to general playing style first and foremost.

But now that we have the second flip solving Mocsta 100% shouldn't be a problem.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 16 2018 23:29 GMT
#982
On June 17 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now. Holyflare. You need to kill mafia on D3.
Otherwise you are mafia.


Rekt
You didn't START the wagon, now did you?
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 17 2018 00:10 GMT
#987
...Right, I forgot that the iamperfection-wagon was a thing for a really long time.

So if we take Rels' appearance in the Thread just now as confirmation of him being Town.

....That leaves us with exactly a pool of three: me, Holyflare and Mocsta.

I know that I'm Town but you guys don't so for the sake of being "objective" for a moment: HF was a part of iamperfection-wagon for a long time. This makes him very unlikely to be Mafia, though it was unlikely before already.

So unless something drastic comes up, the pool (for you guys) is exactly me/Mocsta.

I feel like I'm quite okay with this.

Oh wait, fuba could be fakeclaiming.

BUT.

If fuba lives the Night, he will come back with a report on either myself or Mocsta.

Game solved?

Also, who did you track last Night, fuba? You never actually told us, did you?
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 17 2018 00:19 GMT
#991
Would've been funnier if I was Mafia -- could've bragged that I'm the only Player who Voted for Mafia D1, D2 AND D3.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 17 2018 00:20 GMT
#992
Ah, shoot.

Well the pool still seems fairly okay I guess.
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 17 2018 18:40 GMT
#1021
Wow.

I'll take that exchange as an outright Scumclaim.

...Never mind, I can also take it as a LITERAL Scumclaim
On June 17 2018 22:17 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2018 22:15 Holyflare wrote:
I can just make you concede tonight so we don't have to wait 48 hours of you wasting our time
lol make me.

Tough words internet warrior
TheSlenderMan
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland70 Posts
June 18 2018 17:35 GMT
#1097
Gg wp everyone!

Not sure what kita meant with the smurf-comment, maybe he mistook me for someone else?
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