[M][N] Elementary Mafia

On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?

On May 27 2018 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DF i would call scum but lately he has been terrible so maybe he is just terrible here too

On May 27 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1st post: "GB is town"
2nd psot: "GB is ACTUALLY town, this is my final decision"
3rd psot: "you know actually GB is town"

yeaaaahhh...

On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1

If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.

Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.

LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.

I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.

On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely.

On May 28 2018 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:


Giving more thoughts to the votecount, as rayn already said, it heavily suggests mafia was afk at EoD.
fuba was active and could've hammered me. So was Rels and he could've voted Koshi.

Jealous was AFK, so he wouldn't be able to place a vote on counterwagons.
fuba was here and could've unvoted Koshi to vote darthfoley with me and Rels, thus saving darthfoley UNLESS darthfoley was mafia with him.

Rels could give any reason to vote koshi. I don't remember him townreading Koshi so it would be an okay play. He even agreed with Rayn's post.

Darthfoley was afk. He was one of the few that could've saved Jealous without looking bad.
I'm lynching between Darthfoley and LS. But i think Darthfoley will be more informative.

##Unvote
##Vote: darthfoley

On May 29 2018 00:52 Koshi wrote:

What if I am not mafia? Is it completely valid then? Because that means I can stop playing and you claimed mafia to me.

On May 29 2018 00:56 Koshi wrote:
I am not really kidding. I am town. Your defense on a good point against you is "Koshi might be mafia".

But I am not. So how do you defend in that situation? Dont you agree it is odd that Jealous was lyncjed with 3 votes when there are so many active people.

Meh.

Mafia busses anyway and there are no blues but still.

On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:

Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now.

On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:


It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate.

Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????).

Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi.

On May 28 2018 23:01 darthfoley wrote:
I looked through fuba's filter... and it felt okay.

I think Jealous's wagon is pure (rayn/grack/hf) probably. HF could have hammered me with rels/GB and bullshitted some reason to justify it. Grack's reaction to the lynch seemed townie enough.

Koshi wagon, i'm not sure. Really depends on Koshi's alignment here. I think there are two scum between Koshi/Rels/byj/GB/LS.

I need to reread some shit later today, but GB's switch off Jealous and onto me makes me worry. He, like Rels, were interested in anything but Jealous/Koshi EoD. Tried fuba, and me. If HF had actually switched like he said, I would've been lynched with 3 votes (Rels/HF/GB)

On May 29 2018 05:22 Holyflare wrote:


Fuba voted koshi based on rayn's case didn't he?

On May 27 2018 05:31 fuba wrote:

This is starting to bother me. I know rayn can be stubborn (at least that's how I consider him), but I think he's actually on to something with Koshi and he's still not voting him to sit on a policy lynch.

I don't think they're both scum together, and I still thought rayn was town, but there's stubborn and there's this.

On May 27 2018 07:36 fuba wrote:
I filtered him and I'm not sure anymore -_-

Koshi's whole "GB, use this post to defend yourself later" thing seems genuine town.

On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.

On May 29 2018 06:37 Holyflare wrote:


You didn't hammer your scum partner. There was ample time to switch absolutely anywhere. Which you did.

On May 30 2018 06:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Man the df vote on Koshi though it's bugging me hard as he didn't give a reason for it yet everyone else not comment on that????????

On June 02 2018 07:42 Rels wrote:
What's a Survivor ORG ?

On June 02 2018 07:48 Rels wrote:

so the challenges are played over facebook games ?

On June 02 2018 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
You have absolutely no right to be mad at people.

On June 02 2018 07:58 darthfoley wrote:
Just fyi, i'm gonna die, and mafia voted for me.

It literally makes 0 sense to believe i'm mafia based off of D1 EoD, and somehow i'm the "town shitter" who plays terribly.

gg, fuck off. had no fun playing this game and shouldn't have signed up for it. I'm rooting for Rels to win regardless of his alignment. Only player who deserves to win

bonne chance mon ami

On June 02 2018 08:30 Grackaroni wrote:

Don't worry about it you seem stressed.

I'm sorry too about the shitter comment.

On June 02 2018 11:04 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, I just realized that if I don't retrieve my account I won't be able to play the game after tomorrow.

I don't know my password and I lost my e-mail's password. So... here we are.

Does anybody know what I can do?

On June 05 2018 05:38 byj wrote:
Zzz, guess Mafia is fine not talking.

On June 05 2018 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
I also didn't initially realise df wasn't around at the end of the day 1 vote so it makes a hell of a lot more sense why no mafia voted to save their partner in that case.

On June 05 2018 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's hard when two people who are supposed to be decent at the game decide to only pretend they are playing and the doctor decides to save a guy who can't get anything done.

well gg, couldnt have rels early on.