[M][N] Elementary Mafia - Page 8

On May 28 2018 09:10 byj wrote:

Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows.

On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.

On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:

Well now I know who I can trust
My read now:
Town:
raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, Holyflare, GB, me for obvious reasons.

LS:
Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble
Fuba:

and him voting on Koshi makes me suspicious. I assume either LS or him is Scum, leaning towards Fuba
Koshi:
Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now
darth:
barely talked, no clue
Rels:

Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba

So if I had to take a guess I'd be Rels + Fuba who are our remaining Scum

On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.

On May 28 2018 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:


Yeah, you're right in this.

On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...

On May 28 2018 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 3 (conclusion)

Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow.
Regardless of my reads:

Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow:
- Holyflare (important asset)
- Rayn (important asset, can be town)
- Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch)
Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town.

SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference):

1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment)
2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon)
3) byj (forgettable play)
4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern)
5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia)

On May 28 2018 10:45 LightningStrike wrote:

I did answer your questions towards em and did tell you about the vote count stuff....

On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game.

GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia.

On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:

Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ?

On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:


It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate.

Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????).

Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi.

On May 29 2018 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh shit I'm missing some shit fights.