EPT[M][N] Elementary Mafia - Page 8
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On May 28 2018 09:10 byj wrote: Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows. My distrust against Jealous and fuba made you think I'm town? | ||
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On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote: Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj. Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you. But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF. Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia. | ||
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On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote: Well now I know who I can trust  My read now: Town: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, Holyflare, GB, me for obvious reasons. LS: Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble Fuba: and him voting on Koshi makes me suspicious. I assume either LS or him is Scum, leaning towards Fuba Koshi: Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now darth: barely talked, no clue Rels: Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba So if I had to take a guess I'd be Rels + Fuba who are our remaining Scum OK, I've re-read this and it makes sense. | ||
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On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote: Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that. Yeah, you're right in this. | ||
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In the other hand, Jealous was definetly going to be lynched at some point, so him not wanting to vote Jealous would be suspicious. Anyway, again, paranoia and WIFOM. Will disregard it for now. | ||
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On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote: Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all... Yeah, yeah, you're right. What do you think of fuba atm? | ||
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On May 28 2018 08:37 GlowingBear wrote: Part 3 (conclusion) Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow. Regardless of my reads: Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow: - Holyflare (important asset) - Rayn (important asset, can be town) - Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch) Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town. SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference): 1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment) 2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon) 3) byj (forgettable play) 4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern) 5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia) Giving more thoughts to the votecount, as rayn already said, it heavily suggests mafia was afk at EoD. fuba was active and could've hammered me. So was Rels and he could've voted Koshi. Jealous was AFK, so he wouldn't be able to place a vote on counterwagons. fuba was here and could've unvoted Koshi to vote darthfoley with me and Rels, thus saving darthfoley UNLESS darthfoley was mafia with him. Rels could give any reason to vote koshi. I don't remember him townreading Koshi so it would be an okay play. He even agreed with Rayn's post. Darthfoley was afk. He was one of the few that could've saved Jealous without looking bad. I'm lynching between Darthfoley and LS. But i think Darthfoley will be more informative. ##Unvote ##Vote: darthfoley | ||
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On May 28 2018 10:45 LightningStrike wrote: I did answer your questions towards em and did tell you about the vote count stuff.... I didn't mean I was literally playing alone I just meant that nothing is really going on after the rayn kill Sorry, you're a fluffy little friendly poney that played with me  | ||
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On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote: Who is koshi pushing? Jealous was up for lynch for quite a while and yet nobody joined onto the koshi wagon other than ls (who I think/thought was town) and fuba (really weak gut read town). Unless both of them are Jealous' partners or his partners are afk then nobody gave a shit about lynching koshi to save their team mate? Koshi never really became any kind of majority when it would be the easiest counter push for mafia to make. This goes the same for df. If LS or Fuba are mafia why did they not switch to df to save jealous? Koshi seems incredibly meek from what I've skimmed and is probably mafia. His alignment is really the key to figuring out this game. GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING I POST BUT KEEP CALLING ME MAFIA JESUS CHRIST IVE NEVER SEEN YOU THIS TUNNELED AS EITHER ALIGNMENT | ||
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On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote: Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? The only reason Jealous died was because I voted him and he became the main wagon BEFORE koshi. Holyflare's swap didn't hammer Jealous. HF, let me ask you something. If I am mafia with Jealous, why would I flip my reads on Grack and Rayn and HAMMER MY FUCKING SCUMPARTNER? | ||
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On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote: It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi. OMG HF Grack was going to be the lynch when I switched to Jealous WHY WOULD I SWITCH TO JEALOUS TO SAVE GODDAMN KOSHI? | ||
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But you say I'm not doing shit I'm trying to gather information on almost EVERY player in the game I have a big filter for a 44 page game and you say I'm not playing the game Then you said I didn't answer Grack and I ANSWERED his question before If you're town, you should take a step back, if not, I'll figure it out and I'll trainwreck the shit out of you | ||
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On May 29 2018 06:12 Grackaroni wrote: Oh shit I'm missing some shit fights. I'm not fighting, was I rude? I didn't mean to be rude. | ||
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##Vote: Holyflare You're mafia. | ||
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You're a logical player. At this point, with the whole thread telling you I'm town, with a lot of things pointing out I can be town, I'd expect you would at least reconsider your read. You aren't. Because you decided I'm mafia BEFORE having you arguments. And now you want to keep suspicions on me. You've played with me a lot. You know I can be disruptive, flip my reads, hard defend mafia, etc., as town. Yet you refuse to try to see things from this point of view. This is not a townie mindset. This is someone trying to get a mislynch or to discredit someone who is being universally townread. I have three main reasons to think you're mafia: 1) You kept accusing me of not doing things while I was, and you actually agreed with a lot of posts I made. 2) You've called LS almost confirmed town for a reason that is an extreme bullshit. You're a logical player, it's hard to believe that you actually believe LS could be town for that post of his. 3) You fucking agreed with me that Koshi's alignment is key to understand the game. I also believe that. But you think Koshi is mafia. If he flips mafia, both Rels and me would look bad. It makes sense, under your POV, a Jealous/Koshi/GB mafia team. But if the key of solving it relies in Koshi's alignment and if you think Koshi is mafia, YOU WILL ALWAYS START DAY2 CONVINCING PEOPLE TO LYNCH KOSHI, and once his alignment is revealed, if he flips mafia, YOU GO AGAINST ME. YOU WOULD NEVER BE GOING AGAINST ME BEFORE KILLING KOSHI. | ||
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@Rels: I may have missed a post of yours, but why are you voting Koshi instead of darthfoley? You seemed pretty sure DF was scum day1. | ||
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