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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:18 GMT
#709
Part 1

If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.

Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.

LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.

I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:29 GMT
#710
Part 2

Koshi I have a gut feeling he is town. The way his wagon was formed makes reinforces this POV. But I have also some rational arguments against him being town. Koshi knows me (I believe), and I love when people call me town. Also, I go against "big figures" like HF and Rayn all the times as both alignments, so calling me town for that isn't really great. So, although I still believe he might be town, he can be buddying me and I'm aware of it.

byj seems disconnected from the game, I have no idea how he turned scum GB into town GB. It isn't clear how his reads are developing. I have no idea where he is coming from. I'd take a closer look at him.

Grack, meh. I'm town for him now. I guess he plays like this. It's hard to believe he would bus Jealous when he was saying nothing about his scumreads. He could've choose any of the not-townread players. I wouldn't lynch him day2.

fuba voted Koshi and his play has been unmemorable. He is a good option for lynching.

darthfoley could be mafia if Rels isn't. If rels is mafia, darthfoley is never mafia - there's no need for scum Rels trying to persuade people from unvoting main wagons to vote for his other partner. I have no strong read on darthfoley. I have to read him again because I can't remember his posts. I won't do it now. I'll do it if I get to survive
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:37 GMT
#712
Part 3 (conclusion)

Again, knowing Koshi's alignment is crucial to understand day1. If he is the doctor he should heal tonight and claim tomorrow.
Regardless of my reads:

Shouldn't be lynched tomorrow:
- Holyflare (important asset)
- Rayn (important asset, can be town)
- Grackaroni (most likely town, uninformative lynch)
Again, this is regardless of my reads. I strongly advise against lynching Koshi, as I think he is town.

SHOULD be lynched tomorrow (in order of my preference):

1) LS (forgettable and confusing play, voting the mafia counterwagon using a very bad reason while following thread sentiment)
2) fuba (forgettable gameplay, no strong reads, voted the mafia counterwagon)
3) byj (forgettable play)
4) Rels (could be mafia due to vote pattern)
5) darthfoley (if Rels flips mafia)
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:38 GMT
#713
Oh I thought deadline would be in 20 minutes lol.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:39 GMT
#714
Anyway, this is good
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:40 GMT
#715
##vote: LightningStrike
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:43 GMT
#717
On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.<


Why would you be lynching me?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:44 GMT
#719
On May 28 2018 08:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just going to laugh at GB trying to lynch me as he floundered way to hard EoD XD


Or you can play the game and answer me
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:47 GMT
#723
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just going to laugh at GB trying to lynch me as he floundered way to hard EoD XD


Or you can play the game and answer me



Okay
I'll spend the next 48 hours convincing people to lynch you. It will be very annoying
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:48 GMT
#726
On May 28 2018 08:47 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
I have no idea how he turned scum GB into town GB.

What do you mean?


You kept you vote on me all day1. At night1 I was one of your town reads. Why?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:49 GMT
#727
On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely.


Rayn was killed because HF is either mafia or very wrong.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:50 GMT
#730
On May 28 2018 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely.


Rayn was killed because HF is either mafia or very wrong.


Or Koshi is mafia and killed rayn because he was the only almost universally townread guy still going against him.
Unlikely.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:51 GMT
#732
Are we really going to discuss night kill? We all know it will get to the point of WIFOM.
If doctor used his save he will claim. If not, we will wait for it.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:54 GMT
#736
On May 28 2018 08:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that rayn kill was odd I thought they would kill HF over Rayn but maybe Rayn was killed because he was more active within the last few hours than HF? Just WIFOM most likely.


Rayn was killed because HF is either mafia or very wrong.


Or Koshi is mafia and killed rayn because he was the only almost universally townread guy still going against him.
Unlikely.

That would be a dumb thing to do for Koshi because why put all the attention on you after your scum mate got lynched Day 1? It's a stupid play for Koshi as mafia to kill Rayn in all scenarios.


Nobody will go against Koshi just because Rayn died.
Rayn won't go against Koshi because... he is dead.

Again, WIFOM.

So, you will not defend yourself from my post? What do you think of the rest? Who do you think is mafia?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:55 GMT
#737
On May 28 2018 08:51 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:47 byj wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
I have no idea how he turned scum GB into town GB.

What do you mean?


You kept you vote on me all day1. At night1 I was one of your town reads. Why?

I had no clue who was supposedly Town, and who was Scummy. All I had on you was you defending LS, who I randomly threw a vote at. So not really a proper reason. After lynch I went back and read through the thread once again with the information in mind.



But what about you read makes you think I'm town after all?
After the lynch and the night kill, what are your reads?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 27 2018 23:56 GMT
#738
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:02 GMT
#740
On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1

If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.

Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.

LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.

I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.

I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing

He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't.

True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered.

BUT

Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise.

There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor.


LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone.

Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:02 GMT
#741
What I mean is: it doesn't matter if he player or not, it's not alignment indicative.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#744
On May 28 2018 09:04 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?

You didn't really say anything noteworthy at night did you. What I judged you on were your pre-night actions. I don't think Scummie would've tried to lynch like that, even if they had gotten it, they would most likely be one of the most suspected people next day.
Why are you so worried over me trusting you? Want to admit something?


It's not that I'm worried you're trusting me or not. It's that scum have a hard time coming up with reasons to read people. How can I decide if you're scum or not if you don't fully disclose your thought process regarding your reads?
You're just posting who you think is town and who you think isn't. And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#745
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.
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