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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 03:01 GMT
#181
On May 25 2018 11:55 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:34 Jealous wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Jealous


[image loading]

Dont care, you either play word game with words or i hold the game hostage like you do.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So fuck you too.


[image loading]

ah i know, i am also gonna talk in codes for the rest of the game.

XCXVXCUISJ SS SDSRUI. ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 03:01 GMT
#183
On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place...

Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol.

CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 12:55 GMT
#234
On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
where was i arguing about the read on you? because i completely missed his read on you in the first place...

Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol.

CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD

this rage is townie :p
rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable

That is not the problem.
The problem is i can't tell reasoning or even how strongly he feels about the stuff he comments on. You can never add that to pictures and it is a crucial element of this game. His posts basically are "this happened and i think it means X". It doesnt really say anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 13:51 GMT
#263
I dont think there is any reason why rels should be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 17:53 GMT
#281
I giggled when i imagined LS trying to decipher my random letters code.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 22:06 GMT
#310
On May 26 2018 06:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, care to answer HF's suspicions on you?

Not really. He is scum though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 25 2018 22:34 GMT
#315
Koshi why cant i be mafia with blowingear?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 12:35 GMT
#331
On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there

I am here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 13:28 GMT
#337
On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there

I am here.

good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.

Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home.
But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 14:54 GMT
#355
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 15:01 GMT
#358
On May 26 2018 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?

I guess but the chance of both you and Glowingbear being scum and instigating that argument at the start of the game seems so low to begin with that I'm ok with him discounting the SvS scenario.

Its his reasoning whhat i have a problem with. If he had said what you just said i wouldnt have a problem with it.

Otherwise Koshi seems fine.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 15:25 GMT
#364
DF i would call scum but lately he has been terrible so maybe he is just terrible here too
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 16:52 GMT
#389
Who the fuck is babo?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:18 GMT
#396
Alright so, here's why i think HF is mafia.

It is the way he responds (or doesn't) to my posts. First is the thing where i posted this line; "Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not? I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?" Glowingbear was kindish of right that this one is a shitpost, because i intentionally wrote it in a very "fluffy" way and i also didn't even bother to check if there are 11 or 12 players in the game, which is something i could have easily done just if i wanted to. Instead i decided to just write some fluff with "encouraging" words,, Which is why, i don't remember who asked (maybe GB?) yea i was telling the truth but it is still a "shitpost".

The thing is HF tends to jump on this kind of stuff, either for pressure or because he thinks the poster is mafia. That is if he is town. That is also why i originally scumread him, because he didn't. In my opinion it doesn't matter how much time he has, it matters that he was 100% in the thread right after that, and he 100% read the post because there was like 1 page of posts. The way he (didn't) react to the post makes me think he is mafia, it doesn't fit his town MO.

Second thing is this post.
On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?).

Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo.


There are many things wrong with this particular post. In fact it's the whole post that doesn't make any sense lol. I don't go "from calling him mafia" to anywhere, because i am not calling Jealous mafia. I am simply just policy voting him until he begins to play properly, it's that simple. I have absolutely no idea where that GB thing comes from because my argument with GB was completely unrelated to HF. My progression on GB is really easy to figure out but somehow HF groups this up with my read on him, which once again doesn't make any sense. The only thing i didn't continue with the "push" on HF was because there was nothing else to be said onto the matter, not to even mention most likely noone is going to understand why i think what i do.

Furthermore there is the completely nonsense stuff on my "read"/vote on Jealous because it is -- once again -- very easy to see why i am voting for him, and it is also very easy to see i don't actually think he is even necessarily mafia. It is because i simply don't want to decipher his posts twice, his posts will always lack reasoning, and if he is mafia it is very easy to hide behind pictures to NOT post actual reasoning, and i don't like it. I don't know why this is painted as some weird terrible "retracting from a push" because it is quite clear i have never even TRIED to "push" anyone in that sense during this game.

One other thing, Holyflare likes to lynch me and push me for lynch when he thinks i am mafia. This fact coupled with the above doesn't fit his town MO because he ACTUALLY seems to be thinking i am mafia but he isn't really doing anything with it, in a town!HF way. Rels knows this "no opinions, only facts" thing, it's pretty common for HF to act that wayand push stuff like it was truth even though he isn't even sure of it. That isn't happening right now, the scumread on me and the way he handles this is way too soft.

I tend to be pretty good with this kinda stuff, unless it's sicklucker in question lol.

GB and LS are town, that's quite simple.

Maybe Grackaroni is town too, i thought he could be town early on for the no fucks given attitude, then changed my mind and now i am changing my mind again. I will probably read him better tomorrow, i don't think i have time for that today -- i mean to make a judgement call that i will trust enough.

Koshi i already talked about.

Rels sounds town but could be mafia too, not lynching him D1 though.

df's psot was terrible because he most likely calls 3 townies mafia and the reasoning for every of his read is pretty fucking crap. It's like he is trying to play the game without actually having thought anything anyone has said in the game for real (see for example my "Jealous scumread")... Mafia or terrible.

I have a bit mixed feelings on byj, on the other hand i know a lot of people who play this style of mafia where "you can't tell anything before flips so maybe no-lynch", but then it bothers me he simply ditches that thought process after LS tells him he should vote. I mean i get the LS vote quite well from his perspective but since then he has changed vote and that i don't get anymore that well. I keep thinking why would he do that as mafia, because noone was "blaming him" for playing "i dont wanna lynch anyone" - card?? idk, gun to head i'd say town. Maybe like 55% town.

I don't have pretty much anything on fuba. I thought this post:
On May 25 2018 13:45 fuba wrote:
I don't think scum has participated heavily yet. No one talking a lot has set off any alarm bells. GB v Rayn feels town v town.

I think GB seems genuine, and I kinda like his reasoning on HF (enough to lean very lightly scum on HF). I'm a fan of jealous's drawings but I can understand rayn voting him for them. I can get behind GB's grack vote, but not for the reason he said. I just think it's pointless to come in and say "I have no thoughts.". I have to reread LS, because I feel like he's posted an ok amount but I can't remember anything he's really said.

My vote would currently be on grack, lurker, or a distant HF.

..sounded townie but i was pretty tired yesterday and i can't remember anymore why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:20 GMT
#397
Oh right one more thing, Grackaroni and Koshi are never mafia together.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:24 GMT
#398
On May 26 2018 23:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Grackaroni's reads list:

Town lean:

Rels
- His attitude seems townie to me. I think Rels is more of an aggressive questioner as scum.

Raynpelikoneet - I don't think Rayn is pushing a mafia agenda. He's sticking with his Holyflare read that convinced absolutely nobody earlier and is bitching about Jealous posting pictures. I think he's acting like more of a grumpy townie than mafia and is playing in a way that will make people want to vote him for reasons that don't actually make him more likely to be mafia.

Koshi - I liked his posts earlier.

Probably won't vote today:

GlowingBear - I liked the posts + narrative that Koshi highlighted for Glowing bear as a reason to town read him instead of any of his actual content, but I'm not really very familiar with Glowingbear so meh.

No opinion:
darthfoley
LightningStrike
fuba
Jealous
byj
Holyflare

nah nevermind, i don't think this post comes from mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:27 GMT
#399
It is for especially for the GB read and the lack of scumreads. Like it looks like a mafia post which is why i think mafia wouldn't post it, when you can actually make up something better.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:50 GMT
#405
I don't really care, you're mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:53 GMT
#409
I have already talked about Grack and GB.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 17:54 GMT
#410
I don't really care about talking about anything, i am just gonna watch and say what i find to be the most likely answer.
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