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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:24 GMT
#471
On May 26 2018 17:48 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 26 2018 08:37 Jealous wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI!

I'm town.

Rayn is mafia again.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet


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On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.


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On May 25 2018 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the pictures but if you wanna play pictionary you are in the wrong game man....
It really gets annoyng after a while when you have to double decipher someone's posts.


Nope.


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On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.


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On May 25 2018 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When you have read the thread aka 10 posts tell me GB.


OHAI!

I've read it all.

Just pointed out the ones I felt talking about.

Me town. You town? I don't think you town.

On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.

"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total".

:D

2 mafia down boyzz.


If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff.
If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time.

That's where I come from.


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On May 25 2018 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

Hey it been a long time since I played with you how it been?
Also side note for myself this fight is a bit forced?


HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LS!

Rayn is forcing it. I'm just having fun


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On May 25 2018 11:01 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

for reference.
worst post 100%, says nothing.


It says I don't like you and you might be mafia
It says I don't like HF and he might be mafia

It says I think LS may be town

It's says a lot for only 2 pages of game.


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On May 25 2018 11:05 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why didnt you just say "LS might be town" then instead of all that crap?


I'm just typing as words comes to my mind

I'm kinda euphoric right now

And I'm not a native speaker. Also not a very good english speaker at all.


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On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.


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On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?


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On May 25 2018 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.


Now that I read it again, it's actually pretty clear I'm saying he might be town.

ah yes, you did have to read it again to make sure what you said?


Not what I said, but how I said it


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On May 25 2018 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?

now you're using my argument and painting it as yours


No, your argument is that he didn't pick up a shitpost you claim you made on purpose.
My argument is that if he is town he would either play the game or simply not post a single post until he has time.

On May 25 2018 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but then again you also called me mafia


I didn't like your bait post. Looked forced to me.

On May 25 2018 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not?
I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?


This.
This is so forced.

It either looks
1) You mean it, and talking about setup is something you're really against, which makes me feel you're mafia
2) You don't mean it and you're looking for a scum slip "OMG ONLY SCUM WOULD CARE IF IT'S 9v3 OR 8v3". We all know that there are no such thing as scum slip, so it makes me feel you're mafia.
3) "How about we figure out shit fast" is bad and forced, and it feels you didn't mean it. It feels you made this post for people to nitpick. But you're not one to make shitposts like this. Actually you always bashed on me for trying to do stupid things on purpose. This seems out of character.

There.


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On May 25 2018 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways GB is likely town and same with rayn hopefully we can get a town circle going.


Why am I town?

Your responses to rayn seemed townie especially pointing out that part of the your quote regarding your read on me to rayn felt townie as mafia I don't think you would be bothered to even try that knowing you.


Just to get this clear: you're meta-ing me and you think I'm so lazy as mafia that I wouldn't bother to answer rayn like that?

On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?


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On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

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On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

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On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni



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On May 26 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 26 2018 00:49 darthfoley wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Indeed. I am also puzzled by how these comments = he may be mafia


My wording can be confusing, but it's simple logic.

If I don't see town motivation behind a post, it makes the guy probably mafia.


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On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.


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On May 26 2018 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

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On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni



This is like 90% why ls isn't town and 5% on grack yet you vote the off hand comment instead. Baaaaad gb.


This is me being transparent on my stream of thought regarding LS. I even said I have to rethink LS in that.

In the other hand, it's clear I have a strong opinion on that post by grack.

BAAAAD HOLYFLARE


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On May 26 2018 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 22:38 Grackaroni wrote:
That was the towniest series of Koshi posts that I think I've ever seen. Extremely high content to personality ratio.

I'll sheep the read on Rels and take his word on the Glowingbear town read.


Uhm, no, he just calls me town and Rels mafia.


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On May 26 2018 06:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, caught up.

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On May 26 2018 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Gb do you actually scum read anyone? You seem to flop back and forth, comment on things amd say nothing.


Yeah, I thought it was clear that I think grackaroni might be mafia.

For now, I have rayn and grackaroni as possible mafia.

Koshi is probably town.
Rels is probably town.
You are probably town (every one knows I pick posts that sounds scummy right at the beginning of the game and I rethink it later)

I admit I'm getting paranoia regarding LS. Sometimes he sounds townie, sometimes he sounds scummy.


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In your first quote when gb tells people his read on me is based on what I would say as town or town with no time you give him a green plus but then when he elaborates on it later you completely change the green plus to a null/confused. Why?


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:28 GMT
#472
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:28 GMT
#473
why the fuck is that so tiny
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:28 GMT
#474
oh nvm just click it, it's the same posts but different reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:31 GMT
#476
To be clear about the grack thing, I read one town game and one mafia game and his mafia game was really meek and just complacent. Not really like this game but I don't think the reads that he made this game are anything like his usual town game either. The problems I have with it are they are two notoriously hard to read people and his strongest reads are on those people for bad reasons that don't make sense for them to be that alignment (since they do those things as mafia too) and when he's told that nothing changes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:35 GMT
#478
On May 27 2018 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 27 2018 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
oh nvm just click it, it's the same posts but different reads

and?


If he's making a thoughtful read on GB's posts then why are the same posts reaching different conclusions............? Looks like he's just arbitrarily assigning pictures.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:40 GMT
#481
On May 27 2018 03:43 GlowingBear wrote:
For now my hangover is too strong for me to catch up, so I just skimmed.

@HF: I meant "what's your read on me?"


I don't have a read on you other than you are on the scummy side of null imo. I'm having a bit of trouble after reading your filter tbh, I don't think you've really said a single thing. Specifically, I think it's your whole approach to the rayn/me situation. You think rayn might be mafia initially, you've agreed with my points on him and wanted a follow up and he's followed up since but you haven't interacted with him or re-evaluated anything around it at all and you keep making excuses to not play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:41 GMT
#483
On May 27 2018 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 25 2018 21:52 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

Hey it been a long time since I played with you how it been?
Also side note for myself this fight is a bit forced?


HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LS!

Rayn is forcing it. I'm just having fun

Imo town.

Small sentence. But I can see gb believe rayn is forcing it and I can believe gb is enjoying him here. Both as town gb.

Mafia gb going head on vs town rayn posting this sentence is brave play.


So I will run with town gb for now.



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On May 26 2018 04:44 Koshi wrote:
I would agree more with you if GB didnt went head on against rayn. If one is trying to play buddy buddy as mafia, one does not clynch with rayn and lick on LS. As mafia you more likely do the opposite.

Both of the red parts are based on the assumption that i am town, otherwise it doesn't make any sense, but then:;
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rayn dnu. Going to let him play. I didnt like 1 thing though. Forgot what it was. Something he attacked somebody for that was dumb on his part.

So one of the reasons GB is town is because mafia!GB doesn't go after town!rayn (which is also bs btw) but then he doesn't know if i am town or mafia (so why can't like.. we both be mafia for example??).

And this was not an off-hand comment, he even said it TWICE.


good catch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 19:43 GMT
#484
On May 27 2018 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 27 2018 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
oh nvm just click it, it's the same posts but different reads

and?


If he's making a thoughtful read on GB's posts then why are the same posts reaching different conclusions............? Looks like he's just arbitrarily assigning pictures.

so you're going to wait for another picture to "clear that up" or? the next one after? or after?
I thought his pictures were quite clear and understandable, or what?

.................


it's not that black and white you know, if he really is town and wants to play to his win condition then at some point he's going to have to transition and answer questions

I'm all for someone having fun and I'm not going to stop them. If his pictures didn't have that contradiction in them I would be quite happy with what he's done, even if it's just a GB read and a bunch of 50/50s.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 20:25 GMT
#501
rayn you're not even voting koshi?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 20:33 GMT
#503
grack, care to weigh in on the koshi read since it directly contradicts your read?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 20:36 GMT
#505
we should probably kill koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 20:37 GMT
#506
or grack
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 20:41 GMT
#508
why do you have no opinion on grack ls?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 21:22 GMT
#516
On May 27 2018 06:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Holyflare are you still scum reading Rayn?

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 21:24 GMT
#517
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 21:25 GMT
#518
I also have nothing to go on as to why you're "reconsidering" your reads on grack or rayn because you've provided no reason for your 180 so what's the reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 21:25 GMT
#519
the amount of koshi dodge when there's an actual good case in here is unreal

even the guy that made the case is dodging the vote
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 22:01 GMT
#544
On May 27 2018 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 27 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????


First I thought Grack can be town
Then I thought if rayn was mafia he would not protect town grack
Therefore, both can be town

Therefore I don't want to lynch them

Therefore I believe Jealous is a good lynch because he kept saying you were a scumlean but is voting byj + I will never be able to figure out his motivations because his playstyle never reveals the WHY he gives his reads.


I still don't understand this at all. Nothing has changed other than rayn mentioning he's "too scummy to be scum" and you disagreeing with that as a fundamental premise that you believe in. I find it hard to see how you've rationalised yourself to this point AND THEN also make an unflipped association read with rayn based on your random change of heart on grack.

It looks like grack has stopped becoming the flavour of the thread and now you've just jumped onto jealous over a good case on koshi while not really commenting on koshi?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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May 26 2018 22:02 GMT
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On May 27 2018 06:33 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 27 2018 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back, thought about Grack's alignment, I'm reconsidering it, also reconsidering my read on rayn, I don't see why rayn would protect him unless he is mafia with him, currently voting Jealous because of Grack's reasoning which sounds right.


Protect who?

If you're referring to grack then why the fuck would you ever write this when you think both grack and rayn are scummy????????


First I thought Grack can be town
Then I thought if rayn was mafia he would not protect town grack
Therefore, both can be town

Therefore I don't want to lynch them

Therefore I believe Jealous is a good lynch because he kept saying you were a scumlean but is voting byj + I will never be able to figure out his motivations because his playstyle never reveals the WHY he gives his reads.


Didn't really say this either.
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