• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:22
CET 10:22
KST 18:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book3Clem wins HomeStory Cup 287HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info4herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) HomeStory Cup 28 $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea StarCraft player reflex TE scores 2024 BoxeR's birthday message
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1356 users

[M][N] Elementary Mafia - Page 38

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 74 Next
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:02 GMT
#741
What I mean is: it doesn't matter if he player or not, it's not alignment indicative.
I'm adorable.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:04 GMT
#742
On May 28 2018 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?

You didn't really say anything noteworthy at night did you. What I judged you on were your pre-night actions. I don't think Scummie would've tried to lynch like that, even if they had gotten it, they would most likely be one of the most suspected people next day.
Why are you so worried over me trusting you? Want to admit something?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:07 GMT
#743
On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1

If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.

Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.

LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.

I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.

I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase:
On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing

He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't.

True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered.

BUT

Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise.

There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor.


LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone.

Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that?

I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here:
https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Koshi
But I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#744
On May 28 2018 09:04 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?

You didn't really say anything noteworthy at night did you. What I judged you on were your pre-night actions. I don't think Scummie would've tried to lynch like that, even if they had gotten it, they would most likely be one of the most suspected people next day.
Why are you so worried over me trusting you? Want to admit something?


It's not that I'm worried you're trusting me or not. It's that scum have a hard time coming up with reasons to read people. How can I decide if you're scum or not if you don't fully disclose your thought process regarding your reads?
You're just posting who you think is town and who you think isn't. And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#745
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:10 GMT
#746
OH THIS IS GONNA BE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
I'm adorable.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:10 GMT
#747
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.

Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:11 GMT
#748
byj you didn't care for the votecount, you kept voting me until the very end and then you flipped you read on me?
It doesn't make sense at all
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:13 GMT
#749
On May 28 2018 09:10 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.

Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows.


My distrust against Jealous and fuba made you think I'm town?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:13 GMT
#750
I'm not attacking you. I want to understand where you're coming from.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:30 GMT
#751
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:31 GMT
#752
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:41 GMT
#753
On May 28 2018 09:13 GlowingBear wrote:
My distrust against Jealous and fuba made you think I'm town?

Jealous is confirmed Mafia, fuba is likely if I am not mistaken. Of course it could be fake distrust, but for now I trust you.
On May 28 2018 09:11 GlowingBear wrote:
byj you didn't care for the votecount, you kept voting me until the very end and then you flipped you read on me?
It doesn't make sense at all

I didn't keep track of it, came back into the thread after the lynch was over. Either way, before the flip for me you were as good of a target as anybody else, so I most likely wouldn't have changed my vote.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:01 GMT
#754
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:04 GMT
#755
On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 11:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr Byj is gonna get all this good stuff from this.
I am waiting for the things he has to say about this game trn.
go.

Well now I know who I can trust
My read now:
Town:
raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, Holyflare, GB, me for obvious reasons.

LS:
Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble
Fuba:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.

and him voting on Koshi makes me suspicious. I assume either LS or him is Scum, leaning towards Fuba
Koshi:
Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now
darth:
barely talked, no clue
Rels:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:56 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba

I could do that


NOW

if we have a third, why not. Would prefer DF though

Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba

So if I had to take a guess I'd be Rels + Fuba who are our remaining Scum


OK, I've re-read this and it makes sense.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:05 GMT
#756
On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.


Yeah, you're right in this.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 01:06 GMT
#757
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:07 GMT
#758
On May 28 2018 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.


Yeah, you're right in this.


In the other hand, Jealous was definetly going to be lynched at some point, so him not wanting to vote Jealous would be suspicious.

Anyway, again, paranoia and WIFOM. Will disregard it for now.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:08 GMT
#759
On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...


Yeah, yeah, you're right.

What do you think of fuba atm?
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 01:13 GMT
#760
On May 28 2018 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...


Yeah, yeah, you're right.

What do you think of fuba atm?

Seemed a bit more me focused early? Idk man his filter is odd but nothing screams out from his filter outside of that. Null.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 74 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 143
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 446
Jaedong 399
Stork 213
Dewaltoss 141
Leta 119
sSak 74
Shine 68
Shuttle 50
Backho 29
Shinee 25
[ Show more ]
GoRush 21
yabsab 18
NaDa 14
zelot 13
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm138
febbydoto67
League of Legends
JimRising 591
C9.Mang0238
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox491
Mew2King32
Other Games
singsing781
Happy485
mouzStarbuck251
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1109
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH153
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1509
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
1h 38m
herO vs Maru
SC Evo League
3h 38m
Replay Cast
14h 38m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 2h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 2h
OSC
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS4
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.