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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:02 GMT
#741
What I mean is: it doesn't matter if he player or not, it's not alignment indicative.
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:04 GMT
#742
On May 28 2018 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?

You didn't really say anything noteworthy at night did you. What I judged you on were your pre-night actions. I don't think Scummie would've tried to lynch like that, even if they had gotten it, they would most likely be one of the most suspected people next day.
Why are you so worried over me trusting you? Want to admit something?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:07 GMT
#743
On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1

If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.

Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.

LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.

I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind.

I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase:
On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing

He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't.

True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered.

BUT

Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise.

There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor.


LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone.

Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that?

I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here:
https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Koshi
But I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#744
On May 28 2018 09:04 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Please, I would like to talk about my night posts. What are your thoughts on them?

You didn't really say anything noteworthy at night did you. What I judged you on were your pre-night actions. I don't think Scummie would've tried to lynch like that, even if they had gotten it, they would most likely be one of the most suspected people next day.
Why are you so worried over me trusting you? Want to admit something?


It's not that I'm worried you're trusting me or not. It's that scum have a hard time coming up with reasons to read people. How can I decide if you're scum or not if you don't fully disclose your thought process regarding your reads?
You're just posting who you think is town and who you think isn't. And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:08 GMT
#745
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:10 GMT
#746
OH THIS IS GONNA BE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:10 GMT
#747
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.

Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:11 GMT
#748
byj you didn't care for the votecount, you kept voting me until the very end and then you flipped you read on me?
It doesn't make sense at all
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:13 GMT
#749
On May 28 2018 09:10 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:And your read on me flipped for no particular reason, which is weird.

Your distrust against Jealous and fuba. You getting off the Jealous train so easily is weird, but I trying to lead a lynch against a townie is too scummy for scummy. Who knows.


My distrust against Jealous and fuba made you think I'm town?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 00:13 GMT
#750
I'm not attacking you. I want to understand where you're coming from.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:30 GMT
#751
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 00:31 GMT
#752
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 28 2018 00:41 GMT
#753
On May 28 2018 09:13 GlowingBear wrote:
My distrust against Jealous and fuba made you think I'm town?

Jealous is confirmed Mafia, fuba is likely if I am not mistaken. Of course it could be fake distrust, but for now I trust you.
On May 28 2018 09:11 GlowingBear wrote:
byj you didn't care for the votecount, you kept voting me until the very end and then you flipped you read on me?
It doesn't make sense at all

I didn't keep track of it, came back into the thread after the lynch was over. Either way, before the flip for me you were as good of a target as anybody else, so I most likely wouldn't have changed my vote.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:01 GMT
#754
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:04 GMT
#755
On May 28 2018 01:03 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 11:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr Byj is gonna get all this good stuff from this.
I am waiting for the things he has to say about this game trn.
go.

Well now I know who I can trust
My read now:
Town:
raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, Holyflare, GB, me for obvious reasons.

LS:
Him trying to lead off/ defend Jealous seems suspicious to me, but I don't think Mafia would take such a gamble
Fuba:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.

and him voting on Koshi makes me suspicious. I assume either LS or him is Scum, leaning towards Fuba
Koshi:
Doesn't exactly seem the most innocent to me, but I don't trust the lynch on him, so going with Town for now
darth:
barely talked, no clue
Rels:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 07:56 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:55 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Shenannies on fuba

I could do that


NOW

if we have a third, why not. Would prefer DF though

Makes me think that he might be in cahoots with fuba

So if I had to take a guess I'd be Rels + Fuba who are our remaining Scum


OK, I've re-read this and it makes sense.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:05 GMT
#756
On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.


Yeah, you're right in this.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 01:06 GMT
#757
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:07 GMT
#758
On May 28 2018 10:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Hell he could of voted df or Koshi EoD to save jealous if he was mafia so it would of been a stupid mistake from him to vote jealous at EoD like that.


Yeah, you're right in this.


In the other hand, Jealous was definetly going to be lynched at some point, so him not wanting to vote Jealous would be suspicious.

Anyway, again, paranoia and WIFOM. Will disregard it for now.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 28 2018 01:08 GMT
#759
On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...


Yeah, yeah, you're right.

What do you think of fuba atm?
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2018 01:13 GMT
#760
On May 28 2018 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 28 2018 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
My god holyflare might be actually mafia.

Why would mafia HF vote his partner at the very last minute? I don't think HF would do that at all given he was on you with byj.


Jealous was still the lynch when HF voted him. So, trying to gain town cred, like he is gaining from you.

But actually, I'll reevaluate it, maybe I'm being a bit paranoid of HF.

Note to myself: Holyflare tried a lot of counterwagons before voting Jealous. Grack, Koshi, Me. Keeping this in mind to not dismiss the possibility that he is mafia.

Sacing 1 guy this early is to stupid to do which would handicap himself for no reason at all...


Yeah, yeah, you're right.

What do you think of fuba atm?

Seemed a bit more me focused early? Idk man his filter is odd but nothing screams out from his filter outside of that. Null.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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