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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 16:06 GMT
#383
On May 27 2018 01:03 Holyflare wrote:
Regardless, the point stands even more then. It does nothing for GB's alignment so your giant post was even more pointless because it has no scum reads in it and town reads the wrong people.

My post pretty clearly had a point. I wanted to give reads and my reasoning, which I tried to do.

Just because you don't agree with my reads and think they're hipster-mafia reads doesn't make the post pointless.

You're aren't making any sense and at this point I think you're just trying to shoehorn me as mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 18:30 GMT
#443
On May 27 2018 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games


Cool.

For the record, I don't think this characterizes my play very well at all.
On May 27 2018 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
if you're town you see grack who, let's face it, is an incredibly sideline and not making reads out of the blue player making reads on you when you've done pretty much nothing that are "so correct" but you think it's just a mafia post that makes him town?

why does that make sense?

I think I give my fair share of unorthodox reads and try to justify things with my own reasoning, which usually is dependent on the impressions I have of different players.

Though I am pretty lazy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 18:55 GMT
#455
I'm legitimately quite baffled as I think I have a townie filter this game.

I think Jealous is a pretty good lynch. He's gotten lots of easy town reads this game and the main analysis he has posted was prompted by a question from Glowingbear rather than him just posting thoughts on things that he finds interesting to him in the thread, which I think is more mafia-ish than townish.
On May 26 2018 07:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Hey jealous!

What do you think about me?

Am I town?

Am I scum?

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On May 26 2018 08:37 Jealous wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI!

I'm town.

Rayn is mafia again.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet


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On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.


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On May 25 2018 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the pictures but if you wanna play pictionary you are in the wrong game man....
It really gets annoyng after a while when you have to double decipher someone's posts.


Nope.


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On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.


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On May 25 2018 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When you have read the thread aka 10 posts tell me GB.


OHAI!

I've read it all.

Just pointed out the ones I felt talking about.

Me town. You town? I don't think you town.

On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.

"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total".

:D

2 mafia down boyzz.


If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff.
If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time.

That's where I come from.


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On May 25 2018 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

Hey it been a long time since I played with you how it been?
Also side note for myself this fight is a bit forced?


HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LS!

Rayn is forcing it. I'm just having fun


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On May 25 2018 11:01 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

for reference.
worst post 100%, says nothing.


It says I don't like you and you might be mafia
It says I don't like HF and he might be mafia

It says I think LS may be town

It's says a lot for only 2 pages of game.


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On May 25 2018 11:05 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why didnt you just say "LS might be town" then instead of all that crap?


I'm just typing as words comes to my mind

I'm kinda euphoric right now

And I'm not a native speaker. Also not a very good english speaker at all.


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On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.


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On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?


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On May 25 2018 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.


Now that I read it again, it's actually pretty clear I'm saying he might be town.

ah yes, you did have to read it again to make sure what you said?


Not what I said, but how I said it


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On May 25 2018 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?

now you're using my argument and painting it as yours


No, your argument is that he didn't pick up a shitpost you claim you made on purpose.
My argument is that if he is town he would either play the game or simply not post a single post until he has time.

On May 25 2018 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but then again you also called me mafia


I didn't like your bait post. Looked forced to me.

On May 25 2018 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not?
I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?


This.
This is so forced.

It either looks
1) You mean it, and talking about setup is something you're really against, which makes me feel you're mafia
2) You don't mean it and you're looking for a scum slip "OMG ONLY SCUM WOULD CARE IF IT'S 9v3 OR 8v3". We all know that there are no such thing as scum slip, so it makes me feel you're mafia.
3) "How about we figure out shit fast" is bad and forced, and it feels you didn't mean it. It feels you made this post for people to nitpick. But you're not one to make shitposts like this. Actually you always bashed on me for trying to do stupid things on purpose. This seems out of character.

There.


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On May 25 2018 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways GB is likely town and same with rayn hopefully we can get a town circle going.


Why am I town?

Your responses to rayn seemed townie especially pointing out that part of the your quote regarding your read on me to rayn felt townie as mafia I don't think you would be bothered to even try that knowing you.


Just to get this clear: you're meta-ing me and you think I'm so lazy as mafia that I wouldn't bother to answer rayn like that?

On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?


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On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

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On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni



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On May 26 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 26 2018 00:49 darthfoley wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Indeed. I am also puzzled by how these comments = he may be mafia


My wording can be confusing, but it's simple logic.

If I don't see town motivation behind a post, it makes the guy probably mafia.


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On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.


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On May 26 2018 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni



This is like 90% why ls isn't town and 5% on grack yet you vote the off hand comment instead. Baaaaad gb.


This is me being transparent on my stream of thought regarding LS. I even said I have to rethink LS in that.

In the other hand, it's clear I have a strong opinion on that post by grack.

BAAAAD HOLYFLARE


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On May 26 2018 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 22:38 Grackaroni wrote:
That was the towniest series of Koshi posts that I think I've ever seen. Extremely high content to personality ratio.

I'll sheep the read on Rels and take his word on the Glowingbear town read.


Uhm, no, he just calls me town and Rels mafia.


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On May 26 2018 06:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, caught up.

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On May 26 2018 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Gb do you actually scum read anyone? You seem to flop back and forth, comment on things amd say nothing.


Yeah, I thought it was clear that I think grackaroni might be mafia.

For now, I have rayn and grackaroni as possible mafia.

Koshi is probably town.
Rels is probably town.
You are probably town (every one knows I pick posts that sounds scummy right at the beginning of the game and I rethink it later)

I admit I'm getting paranoia regarding LS. Sometimes he sounds townie, sometimes he sounds scummy.


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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 20:24 GMT
#499
Where is LS?

He was here all day yesterday waiting for activity and now that people are talking about things he's the only one who hasn't voted.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 20:25 GMT
#500
On May 27 2018 04:36 LightningStrike wrote:
I back from preping for my cpl match catching up now.

ah nvm
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 20:55 GMT
#510
On May 27 2018 04:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol the grack game I read he was town nvm :D

hmmm.

On May 27 2018 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games

This seems promising.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 20:57 GMT
#511
On May 27 2018 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
To be clear about the grack thing, I read one town game and one mafia game and his mafia game was really meek and just complacent. Not really like this game but I don't think the reads that he made this game are anything like his usual town game either. The problems I have with it are they are two notoriously hard to read people and his strongest reads are on those people for bad reasons that don't make sense for them to be that alignment (since they do those things as mafia too) and when he's told that nothing changes.

Why are you talking about me as if I'm unfamiliar with you, Rayn, or Koshi.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 21:02 GMT
#512
On May 27 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
grack, care to weigh in on the koshi read since it directly contradicts your read?

I talked about this earlier:

On May 26 2018 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 26 2018 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?

I guess but the chance of both you and Glowingbear being scum and instigating that argument at the start of the game seems so low to begin with that I'm ok with him discounting the SvS scenario.


I still think Koshi is townie.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#513
Holyflare are you still scum reading Rayn?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 21:34 GMT
#526
On May 27 2018 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I can start the wagon then.
##Vote: Koshi
I think he got a higher chance to flip scum than Grack.

Why Koshi instead of Jealous?

Don't you usually dislike voting off good players early?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 22:06 GMT
#549
I'm fine with voting Fuba if the votes are there. It doesn't seem like it at the moment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 22:12 GMT
#553
I think you're pretty heavily mafia siding Holyflare.

I think I gave a more defensible argument for voting Jealous than either Lightningstrike or Fuba gave for voting Koshi. And my list was pretty clearly superior to DF's in terms of reasoning even though there wasn't any scum reads at the bottom of it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 22:32 GMT
#575
On May 27 2018 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
grack is basically a gut read too????? "High content to personality ratio" isn't a content post is it.

What I meant by that is that Koshi's starting posts usually have kind of a hyper-Koshi essence to them but this stream of Koshi posts had that but actually convinced me on some things when I didn't have any strong opinions on what happened so far of my own.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 22:34 GMT
#577
Please don't vote Koshi. I am quite confident that it will be a failed lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 22:49 GMT
#587
On May 27 2018 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Nice afk, we're really looking at a mafia lynch here.

Ye of little faith.

On May 26 2018 04:46 Koshi wrote:
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On May 26 2018 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
game is stale as fuck

jealous are you just gonna post in 50/50 scenarios all game or you gonna make decision making pictures?

Mafia isnt playing. Ez lynches in hiders. Dont lynch or go ham on actives.

Free tip.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 23:06 GMT
#615
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 23:06 GMT
#616
GRACKARONI LYNCHED A SCUM
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 23:06 GMT
#617
hahahahaha

Sideline player my ass.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 27 2018 12:28 GMT
#685
This game really should be straightforward but Rayn/HF have the potential to make it much more difficult with their pushes.

These people are town:
2. GlowingBear
5. Holyflare
7. Koshi
8. raynpelikoneet

This is the lynch pool:
1. byj
4. darthfoley
6. LightningStrike
9. fuba
10. Rels
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 27 2018 17:23 GMT
#696
I dislike that Rels refers to the Jealous lynch as just a coin flip when his assumption was that the scum team would be a team of lurkers.

On May 27 2018 07:17 Rels wrote:
Jealous is a coinflip. I would vote Koshi over him. But I would really prefer to just lynch DF? I don't understand why nobody is voting him except me when everybody agreed he is scummy

On May 27 2018 07:54 Rels wrote:
I don't think GB is scum. I hate this EOD though. Team is probably something like DF / dyl / fuba, and just letting the lynch happen

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