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On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax? ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic
Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D
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On April 10 2018 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:
Why exactly do you think Damdred is super-town, Oats? Do share. He thinks you are mafia and vivax is town lol, it's super clear
You might have a point here.
In any case, I noticed you said 'ExO looks terrible' or something to that effect, want to elaborate on that?
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On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax? ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier?
Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.
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On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:
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ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by.
Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons
No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town.
Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc.
@n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.
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On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:
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Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol. Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.
I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.
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On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that?
No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened.
I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible.
Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way?
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On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.
Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.
I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_ Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch. And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.
Dunno about rayn but I think you're mafia skirting by. Your reads are safe (e.g., scum-reading Damdred), you don't seem to be doing a lot, and the only read I really remember from you is you insisting Vivax is town. Well, not even that. You have this to say about him:
mixed feelings on Vivax, and low post count doesn’t
help, but his thoughts on Calix and the reaction he had when Calix responded feel townie to me
And you also have a couple posts where you say he 'seems townie' or 'doesn't give me scum vibes'. It's one of the few things you've 'pushed' (for lack of a better word) in the thread and I am not sure why since you haven't explained your read well.
I also didn't like that post you made where you tried to break up the Vivax/ Calix thing when it wasn't a fight. Felt out of place.
This isn't really a case because it's mostly what you're 'not' doing that concerns me (not making waves, not trying to find scum) more than what you are doing.
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On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that? No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it
I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this.
Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all?
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On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that? No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this. Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all? That's gonna be a no from me.
You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions.
Don't think I believe you.
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On April 10 2018 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 03:02 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that? No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this. Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all? That's gonna be a no from me. You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions. Don't think I believe you. You said changed my read which is no. I'm convinced you are scum, I think that's pretty obvious
I said 'changed at all', I think you'll find.
I maintain nobody's read remains 100% static after prolonged interaction with them.
But since you are apparently 'convinced' that the super-solvy townie with highest post count is mafia, I shall go back to fucking around in the thread.
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I freely admit to not following the Gunsmith discussion but I would really love for n00b to talk about literally anything else. Like the wagons. Or whether he actually thinks Oats is town or scum. Or something relating to a not-Eversince player's posts.
When I agree with Vivax on something, you know it's bad, lol.
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On April 10 2018 03:18 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 03:02 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that? No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this. Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all? That's gonna be a no from me. You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions. Don't think I believe you. Can sure be convinced to lynch Oatsmaster. Choosing you as the best D1 lynch strikes me as pretty ridiculous. He's just as obtuse as Vivax, but it feels more sinister. Vivax is maybe more...directionless, than malicious.
Yeah, it's dumb and possibly scummy but I am not lynching anyone with 6-page filter on D1. I think this should be common sense. It's amazing that people are not taking this into account. Mafia like shooting the active high-posting people and leaving the shitty AFK scrubs. Lynching someone who is freely active and not trying to hide on D1 is therefore a terrible idea.
This argument is why I am a bad lynch. It's self-serving in my case but who gives a shit, it's not wrong.
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On April 10 2018 03:34 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 03:18 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 03:02 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that? No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this. Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all? That's gonna be a no from me. You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions. Don't think I believe you. Can sure be convinced to lynch Oatsmaster. Choosing you as the best D1 lynch strikes me as pretty ridiculous. He's just as obtuse as Vivax, but it feels more sinister. Vivax is maybe more...directionless, than malicious. What do you think about damdred and skynx then? They also wanna lynch calix and they are objectively worse than me I don't want to lynch Calix?
You said you might sheep Oats, lol. I also interpreted that as a scum-read on me.
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Skynx I don't get why you now think Vivax isn't a mafia wagon when you had this quote interaction where you seemed more hostile to him than anything else. Please explain the progression in your Vivax read.
On April 10 2018 03:26 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 03:21 Vivax wrote:On April 10 2018 03:19 Skynx wrote:On April 09 2018 21:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done.
Highlights from the reread as well:
Don't like Skynx entry.
Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting.
Content arguments:
Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work.
Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard.
Moving on. I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing? Except I don't always pay attention to everything at once and when you posted it I didn't read it thoroughly as I did today. Why do people always bring the argument that someone is scummy cause he doesn't have the attention span of a savant? Nice try. You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit.
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On April 10 2018 04:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think vivax is mafia. Mafia vivax just rolls over and dies. Damdred can easily be mafia. Why does mafia vivax roll over and die?
Isn't he meant to be below-average at the mafia alignment? Dunno why I'm asking - don't you know Vivax's meta well enough to know what he generally does as mafia by now?
I wouldn't know from personal experience aside from my first game here. He only stopped doing stuff after D3-ish in that game. And that was after his team-mate died D2, I think.
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On April 10 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Day 1 Vote count
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Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear Eversince (0): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (0): Skynxn00bking (2): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_ Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax ExO_ (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet Raynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting (1):Skynx
Currently Vivax is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) Just my thought but this vote count is horrendous for town
I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2.
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On April 10 2018 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:12 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:On April 10 2018 04:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Day 1 Vote count
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Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear Eversince (0): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (0): Skynxn00bking (2): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_ Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax ExO_ (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet Raynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting (1):Skynx
Currently Vivax is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) Just my thought but this vote count is horrendous for town I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2. Why don't we consolidate on you? Thanks for your consideration
That would be strictly sub-optimal.
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We could like, vote ExO or something. A lot of people here think he's scummy but he's never really gained traction.
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Also Skynx is probably town. He seemed genuinely 'lost' and confused back there.
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On April 10 2018 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
So, Skynx has a very simple path to self-preservation, which is just to vote against Vivax. He votes against me instead, which (regardless of Vivax's own alignment) just SCREAMS "I know someone has my back."
Huh? That's like the opposite conclusion to what I had.
Seriously, not taking the path of least resistance is what townies do. Mafia would just take the Vivax lynch. It's not like Skynx would get much flak for it cuz self-preservation.
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