On April 24 2018 08:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw in what situation would I claim before tube?

even after tube claims, the only remote possibility of me claiming is if I actually believed that role balance made one of exo or tube scum.

and even if I did do that, from everyone else’s perspective that would mean there is minimum one scum among 5 people: me, exo, tube, you, rayn. 1 scum to 5 town is a worse ratio than the actual random lynch odds. Even if two scum are in that pile, which I had no reason to believe, it would be 2 to 5 which is much better but still doesn’t guarantee a scum lynch i.e. there’s one or two scum between me & exo & tube and one or zero between you & HF if there are 2 among 5.

I don’t see why I would ever claim there. Just because others claimed is a pretty awful reason given how terrible the other 3 claim timings were.

If you claimed on the day of the blues, like you should have done, there'd be mafia between me and rayn and one of the blues.

I don't think I'd ever believe someone that typed a whole wall of text on balance could believe that we'd have a vet that can stop kp, a jk that can save someone or block kp (jk is pretty broken) and a gunsmith that can give kp. That's potential on the end of n2 to have stopped two bullets and killed a mafia. Straight up broken. Yet you believed 4 blues was balanced in this instance.

Furthermore, you only claimed when rayn was surely up for lynch and I noticed you start throwing shade on tube well before this. This suggested two things:

1. Rayn was a role that stopped you from killing tube.
2. You had to claim because tube and I would never lynch calix and we were guaranteed to lynch you.

Your posts throughout that cycle were completely opportune. You neglected to ever look into rayn's hypocrisy and repeatedly tried to use it against calix and myself. Your 180 on me didn't make sense in the slightest since all I said was "you could be town" but never actually did any kind of commitment whereas you'd been sold on rayn being town throughout the game.

I don't believe your jk targets either. Sure, you thought vivax was towny n1 but you were just about the only person who did think that. The other person thinking that was rayn, who was mafia. So to protect vivax n1 was straight up dumb.

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 07:52 GMT

#3243

Especially if you thought I was mafia then I'm hard pushing vivax and he would never ever be shot.

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 08:20 GMT

#3246

What trap?

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 08:22 GMT

#3248

On April 24 2018 17:12 currentlyhomeless wrote:

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On April 24 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:

I talked about balance when there were more blues than that in the suggested setups. I guess you didn’t actually read the thread when I was responding to it at that time or you’d know that.

Anyway none of the rest actually matters cause that’s what you see after you’ve already assumed I’m mafia.

Lastly the Vivax thing is pretty hilarious to say when apparently you as scum would not kill someone you are hard pushing yet the same doesn’t apply to me for some reason? Why would I kill GB n1, who I was hard pushing?

This isn't the argument I'm putting forth though is it? My argument is that why would you protect somebody that nobody was town reading and your scum read was scum reading. Your argument seems to be why would you kill gb if you were mafia. Not the same at all.

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 08:23 GMT

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[QUOTE]On April 24 2018 17:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw.

did you actually read my balance posts?

[quote]
Then SK + Jailor + cop + veteran would probably be balanced because there is sufficient anti-KP/faction balance and there are no breaking claim strategies.

replace SK with gunsmith and see what happens?[/QUOTE]

Replace a third party that arbitrarily kills anyone with a town gunsmith claimable role that gives town kp? Not really. [/b]

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 08:24 GMT

#3252

You're gonna have to prove to me why tube is mafia I'm afraid.

Holyflare

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April 24 2018 10:27 GMT

#3256

It was clearly a joke?

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