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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:22 GMT
#641
On April 10 2018 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I don't question the reads you have and I'm sure you have reasons for them but they look very out of place and unintuitive.


To me you just look like either I am very close to figuring out your teammates or your teammate is up for lynch and you are trying to get a counterwagon going.


Everybody not currently voting vivax, read this post. Explain to me with the team of noobking/skynx/hf that vivax espoused how he makes the bolded when he never said Eversince is mafia (even called her town) ever.

Think carefully and put yourself in a mindset where you believe this comment.

What is the town mindset that makes you able to say the bolded? It's that Eversince is mafia. Which he never says and has never alluded to.

What is the mafia mindset? To try and shovel shit in my direction with rhetoric.

A town vivax would NEVER come up with this sentence UNLESS he thought Eversince was mafia, which he never did!

Vivax who is the "teammate up for lynch " in skynx/noobking/hf team and why did uou make that post?


It's fucking simple cause the reason I said it is cause I thought HF is mafia going all in with a push on me regardless of who was up for lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:22 GMT
#642
And he's trying super hard to push the perspective where I said it cause of the reads on other people and not cause of the read on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:24 GMT
#643
So basically I didn't think HF was mafia cause I thought that who was up for lynch was mafia, or I would only have said that and not additionally "cause I'm getting closer to mafia" which was another reason for why I could see mafia HF pushing me here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:24 GMT
#645
Super retarded discussion
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:26 GMT
#647
On April 10 2018 00:24 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I don't question the reads you have and I'm sure you have reasons for them but they look very out of place and unintuitive.


To me you just look like either I am very close to figuring out your teammates or your teammate is up for lynch and you are trying to get a counterwagon going.


Everybody not currently voting vivax, read this post. Explain to me with the team of noobking/skynx/hf that vivax espoused how he makes the bolded when he never said Eversince is mafia (even called her town) ever.

Think carefully and put yourself in a mindset where you believe this comment.

What is the town mindset that makes you able to say the bolded? It's that Eversince is mafia. Which he never says and has never alluded to.

What is the mafia mindset? To try and shovel shit in my direction with rhetoric.

A town vivax would NEVER come up with this sentence UNLESS he thought Eversince was mafia, which he never did!

Vivax who is the "teammate up for lynch " in skynx/noobking/hf team and why did uou make that post?


It's fucking simple cause the reason I said it is cause I thought HF is mafia going all in with a push on me regardless of who was up for lynch.


If it was 'regardless of who was up for lynch' then why add a comment suggesting HF's push was because of circumstances relating to who was up for lynch?


Cause it's also a possible scenario where he could start a push on me out of the blue. I don't have absolute confidence in this game except on rayn/Oats. So the hypothetical that it was cause you and ES were up for lynch was also a possibility. It just doesn't mean that I thought you two were mafia at that given moment. But I can't exclude it fully.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:26 GMT
#648
On April 10 2018 00:25 Calix wrote:
Talk about something better then.


Hey fuck you I have to .
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:27 GMT
#650
On April 10 2018 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I don't question the reads you have and I'm sure you have reasons for them but they look very out of place and unintuitive.


To me you just look like either I am very close to figuring out your teammates or your teammate is up for lynch and you are trying to get a counterwagon going.


Everybody not currently voting vivax, read this post. Explain to me with the team of noobking/skynx/hf that vivax espoused how he makes the bolded when he never said Eversince is mafia (even called her town) ever.

Think carefully and put yourself in a mindset where you believe this comment.

What is the town mindset that makes you able to say the bolded? It's that Eversince is mafia. Which he never says and has never alluded to.

What is the mafia mindset? To try and shovel shit in my direction with rhetoric.

A town vivax would NEVER come up with this sentence UNLESS he thought Eversince was mafia, which he never did!

Vivax who is the "teammate up for lynch " in skynx/noobking/hf team and why did uou make that post?


It's fucking simple cause the reason I said it is cause I thought HF is mafia going all in with a push on me regardless of who was up for lynch.



That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense!! Why would I go all in if Eversince is not my partner??

You can't backtrack it. You say I'm going all in because my partners are close to being figured out or my partner is being lynched while none of the names you mention are up for lynch and you DON'T scum read the wagon!


No you could also have been going all in cause I figured out Skynx and N00bking as your partners
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:28 GMT
#652
Starting a massive chainsaw that I declare concluded cause no matter how hard you try to misrep what I said, it's all coherent if you don't only focus on that single part of that single post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:29 GMT
#655
On April 10 2018 00:27 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:26 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:25 Calix wrote:
Talk about something better then.


Hey fuck you I have to .


No you don't. You could just tell us to fuck right off before blowing us away with some intelligent scum-reads.



There is no way I let something this retarded remain an argument. So I have to.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:30 GMT
#658
On April 10 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:27 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I don't question the reads you have and I'm sure you have reasons for them but they look very out of place and unintuitive.


To me you just look like either I am very close to figuring out your teammates or your teammate is up for lynch and you are trying to get a counterwagon going.


Everybody not currently voting vivax, read this post. Explain to me with the team of noobking/skynx/hf that vivax espoused how he makes the bolded when he never said Eversince is mafia (even called her town) ever.

Think carefully and put yourself in a mindset where you believe this comment.

What is the town mindset that makes you able to say the bolded? It's that Eversince is mafia. Which he never says and has never alluded to.

What is the mafia mindset? To try and shovel shit in my direction with rhetoric.

A town vivax would NEVER come up with this sentence UNLESS he thought Eversince was mafia, which he never did!

Vivax who is the "teammate up for lynch " in skynx/noobking/hf team and why did uou make that post?


It's fucking simple cause the reason I said it is cause I thought HF is mafia going all in with a push on me regardless of who was up for lynch.



That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense!! Why would I go all in if Eversince is not my partner??

You can't backtrack it. You say I'm going all in because my partners are close to being figured out or my partner is being lynched while none of the names you mention are up for lynch and you DON'T scum read the wagon!


No you could also have been going all in cause I figured out Skynx and N00bking as your partners


You haven't voted skynx, you never voted skynx and you made no push on noobking that had any traction.

You also literally just stated "it's regardless of the names I posted" but now you're posting names again.


I can only vote for one person at a time and my vote still feels good on N00bking. I also have said what makes him mafia, I have said what makes skynx mafia. I have said what makes you mafia. That's enough of a push for me, I can't decide where other people put their vote afterwards.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:37 GMT
#662
On April 10 2018 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax if youre town you dont need me to prove you are town and honeatly i am not that sure anymore.


Then talk about something else.

1) Skynx entry trying to be overly polished in an environment that really wasn't.

2) N00bking talking again like a politician where he says a shitton while saying nothing.

3) HF trying to lynch me on D1 on flimsy arguments he didn't want to engage me in.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:39 GMT
#664
Honestly he just behaves like an asshole towards me from the start cause I ask him to explicate what the fuck it means that I don't have the read that he expects me to, he refuses and no one accepts to try and talk on my terms or point out that the argumentation from HF is fucking unfair. It's a fucking assholeish environment and doesn't make me want to play.

Would also lynch Calix at this point without caring for her alignment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:40 GMT
#665
If you guys want to just never consider HF to be mafia with the way he argues and don't realize the amount of bullying I'm dealing with that isn't playing mafia I'm fucking out forever.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:46 GMT
#670
On April 10 2018 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 22:00 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:57 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
The last like 5 posts from vivax are all sureties about reads that look really out of place from what I'd expect vivax to be at right now. Hard defend rayn. Pick out a rayn post and defend exo.


Let's play a game then, you tell me where you expect me to be and why and I tell you where I am actually at.


Let's just do this instead

##vote vivax


Cool so you are not interested into my alignment at all or explaining where I should be with my reads so I can dunk all of your expectations. Sorry, but I am willing and ready to go into detail about anything you want, but you refuse.

I am still fully expecting you to do this:

HF

"Vivax should be reading this guy and this guy and this guy as this cause..."

so I can do this:

Vivax:

"No but I actually read them as this cause l..."

That's not how this works


Yes it is, cause that's how HF said it works so if you don't agree with it you don't agree with HF.

On April 09 2018 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
The last like 5 posts from vivax are all sureties about reads that look really out of place from what I'd expect vivax to be at right now. Hard defend rayn. Pick out a rayn post and defend exo.



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:55 GMT
#682
On April 10 2018 00:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Honestly he just behaves like an asshole towards me from the start cause I ask him to explicate what the fuck it means that I don't have the read that he expects me to, he refuses and no one accepts to try and talk on my terms or point out that the argumentation from HF is fucking unfair. It's a fucking assholeish environment and doesn't make me want to play.

Would also lynch Calix at this point without caring for her alignment.


I am genuinely not being an arse. I see you make reads like rayn being shiny and "never mafia" which sets off alarm bells because you are ALWAYS wary of people like rayn and you just came off a game where he was top town and mafia (yes you called him mafia). That's the first read of many(!) that I don't think you make. Your reads on tubesock/calix/Eversince are also flaky as fuck and you basically give no opinion on Eversince even when she's the leading wagon. There's also your gb/damdred read which I thought looked far too quick and elaborate excuses.

It's all these town reads that I can't get past.

I think your scum read on noobking is actually good though.


Or MAYBE I am actually able to read rayn either way (at least some time) and have some degree of confidence on it? He can make big shiny posts as either alignment but as mafia he can't display cues of big committment, emotional committment. He lacked that last game in my opinion and if memory serves me well. It was just big shiny posts designed to appease everyone but he didn't have posts that display that he ACTUALLY cared like I think he posted this game. And combined with PoE and the feeling that it was a mafia driven thread.

And I don't care if you are an arse if you are being mafia. But I care that nobody else seem to notice cause it just doesn't concern them and it's infuriating. You go from argument A (unexpected reads) that you don't care to engage me on, then when I think that's done you go to argument B (but you said mafia was up for lynch Vivax) and I do my best to debunk it, oh here comes argument C Vivax (you didn't vote skynx) .
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 15:56 GMT
#683
On April 10 2018 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax lynch is ehhh.

Seems like typical inconsistent town vivax


How am I being inconsistent Oats?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 16:03 GMT
#688
On April 10 2018 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax lynch is ehhh.

Seems like typical inconsistent town vivax


How am I being inconsistent Oats?

Because you think that ever since is town but also think that skynx' scum partner is the leading wagon which also happens to be ever.


Hey mate the moment I wrote that ES ninjad my post with her claim so I wasn't able to rule her out and Calix was the next leading wagon with two votes so both qualified for me as possible HF teammates. Either that or Skynx and N00b could have been the ones I just wrote about that rustled HFs jimmies.

Either way the post was centric about what could have been the reason for mafia HF to go all out, not who the leading wagon was.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 16:06 GMT
#693
Wait a moment now that I'm not busy defending myself against BS I can start dishing out.
FIrst of all let me point out the following:

On April 09 2018 16:44 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 12:24 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2018 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 09 2018 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax is forgettable, i had to look at his filter to see what was up and yeah theres nothing much, not gonna lynch today though


Why not oats.. why not then..
Looks like scum to me.

My God, kush, is there a single smurf you didn't blow mid-game?

So it's Kush that blows all the smurfs? I knew he looked familiar....
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@Holyflare: I see currentlyhomeless already called you out for the fake vote against him. Care to explain?


@currentlyhomeless: Have anything you might use to convince me that Holyflare would flip red? Seems like you're saying he's scum because he felt threatened by your randomly-generated vote against him. Is there more to it than that?

I'll probably read some more of this thread now.


This is the very first question that came to n00bkings mind and neither is it answered nor is he trying to get it answered when it's obvious he's in the thread with HF so it's safe to assume the two don't even read each others posts and now you go and tell me how unlikely it is that they are both mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 16:08 GMT
#696
On April 10 2018 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, vote skynx with me or I'll have to consolidate on Vivax


You blow bro what is this about consolidation? Do you even have an own opinion? Why are you scumreading me? This isn't EoD and the first thing you come and do is just argue about consolidation without even engaging in whatever the hell people are talking about.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 09 2018 16:14 GMT
#706
On April 10 2018 01:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 01:08 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, vote skynx with me or I'll have to consolidate on Vivax


You blow bro what is this about consolidation? Do you even have an own opinion? Why are you scumreading me? This isn't EoD and the first thing you come and do is just argue about consolidation without even engaging in whatever the hell people are talking about.


I won't be here in 10 minutes, that's why I'm concerned about consolidating.

I've talked about you plenty of times.


Vote Skynx then. Cause I can guarantee that I'm not mafia and if you didn't figure that out by now then I doubt you are even reading my posts.
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