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On April 09 2018 20:45 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 20:19 Tubesock wrote:On April 09 2018 20:07 n00bKing wrote:On April 09 2018 20:04 Tubesock wrote:On April 09 2018 19:55 n00bKing wrote:On April 09 2018 18:51 Tubesock wrote:On April 09 2018 17:07 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 17:00 Tubesock wrote:On April 09 2018 16:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Tubesock: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/524561-generic-mini-mafia-iii?user=SkynxOn July 13 2017 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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so you basically did a case on me based on what i said the first couple of hours and without reading the actual explanations at all.
man i was so right here:
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Funny thing is it's always "because rayn did the same thing last game as mafia". Without any thinking at all. I did laugh when his first post is a case on you. I didn’t read past page three on his filter. I’ll accept the point that he will always think you’re scummy in any game (if that’s your point). But the only similarities were the first post is a case about you. The games are a bit different. And if he’s self aware at all, something he likely would try to replicate as mafia. I’m up for lynching someone else I guess. Not HF though. Why not HF? I know you said 'his lack of nitpicking' makes him more likely town but you still have him as 'solid null' so I don't really get why you don't want him lynched. I feel somewhat confident I can read him eventually. I think he tries harder as mafia, but also I think the damage a living fairly inactive mafiaHF is less than killing a townHF who just hasn’t had much time to play. He hasn’t done anything that I think makes him town, but so far he’s on the greener shade of null. However, well within his scum range. Lazy scum _____ is more dangerous than lazy town ______ is helpful. Doesn't matter whose name you put in the blank. Not exactly what I said, but ok? Well what did you mean to say, then? There is at least one word missing in your post, and maybe other errors. I tried to figure it out as best I could, but maybe I missed the mark. It is worse to kill a town HF than let a fairly inactive mafia HF live. Then I like what I said already. Because if HF is Town, then he's probably as inactive as he appears to be. If he's Scum, there is NO way for everyone to know if he is as inactive as he appears to be. As Scum, I can largely afk the main thread, while actively crafting and guiding the scum agenda through Day Phases, and suggesting (or simply selecting) what I think would be optimal Night actions. And even if the Scum player IS truly not applying much energy or effort to the game, an empty shell scum player who is really nothing more than just a warm body provides a lot more value to this team than an empty shell town player provides to his. The only thing a Scum player needs to do in order to significantly benefit his team is not die. Low-activity scum player is more dangerous than a low-activity town player is helpful. You saying that you are confident you can read him eventually is valid, though.
Generally speaking that’s true. But town Hf wrecks mafia. so I’d like to take that chance he’s town.
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HF is right. Posts #1003 & 1004 demonstrate pretty clearly that Calex was just talking to be active and appearing hip. She froze up cause she didn’t know where to make her vote look the best.
Last two n00b votes were at 14 and 7 minutes prior to deadline. Exo’s was at 21 minutes prior. Fairly last minute I guess, I can see how that could feel like 5 seconds. But I don’t get why she wouldn’t just vote exo or Damdred as they were scummed by her and also basically AFK players if she were town. Her filter is actually quite barren of scum reads.
Eversince, I hope you give the gun to Rayn. I’d be fine with HF also. I’d just shoot Calex, currentlyhomeless, or Skynx with it. I don’t even know if I’d shoot Skynx with it. I want to see what he does in the next 36 hours.
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On April 10 2018 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
Calix points are very good.
Huh?
I don’t think you’re seeing Vivax objectively. Like he is trying to respond to you but you keep burying him with stuff. Isn’t the old Vivax famous for inconsistencies and tin foils? I’m too dumb to understand why he’s being any different this game. But I do like pretty much all his reads.
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On April 09 2018 23:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
The comment about me voting you to derail a mislynch on my partner when eversince was the lead wagon who you didn't even scum read is an example of you just flinging shit that you haven't thought about and pretty much confirms you as mafia to me. In hindsight it will be one of the most right things that have been said in the thread cause you're not the type to lean that far out of the window as mafia if not cause you have to.
I don’t understand this interaction. Are you to towning HF here?
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Vivax disregard, I misread that post.
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On April 10 2018 14:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, I was GlowingBeer, just so this is settled.
I'm lynching Skynx or [red]rayn[/red tomorrow. No one else.
Actually I could lynch homeless if these lynches can't get traction.
rayn, your play until here makes no sense to me. You start by inquiring homeless, drops the push over nothing, votes eversince for flimsy reasons, says exo is scum but don't really try to convince people he is mafia. Such a weak gameplay for someone who has such a strong personality while playing mafia.
I don’t agree with you concerning rayn. They’re all pretty subjective points that add up to him not being the wrecking force he normally is right? If that’s your point, I think it’s due to being busier in life. Same thing happened to HF and why he plays differently now. I also don’t really agree with the points you brought up. I think he dropped homeless once he realized Kush was trolling. Eversince’s reads are a hot mess, so not sure how his reasonings are weak (you even scum read her, what are your strong reasons?), he posted several times to get Exo lynched. “Try” I guess would be subjective.
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On April 10 2018 14:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh and you even scumread Damdred because he was afk.
To be fair you did too, said you hated it.
What do you think of HF? What about Calex and her EOD shenanny? You said that you need to reread Calex but cba, why did you say that?
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Eversince,
Maybe you shouldn’t give it to rayn. Maybe say 1 of X people. Or your second top town. OP said you start with a gun and have the option to hand out or create. Maybe you can create another one. In this case I think some wifommagic would be good.
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Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third.
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I’ll shoot whomover wins the poll.
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I’m lying. I’d just shoot. Calex.
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On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol.
Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru
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On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next?
Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody.
Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo.
I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out.
HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive.
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On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive.
Bleh. Skynx TOP scum for me.
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On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar.
I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax.
That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either.
Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town.
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On April 10 2018 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think exo is town. Come at me.
: : Why?
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On April 10 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:56 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar. I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town. Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why? I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer.
I’ve been saying he’s town all game. My reasonings haven’t changed at all. I’m willing to bet his “chill and do nothing” is him living a life outside of mafia. Otherwise known as just busy. And frankly, you can not criticize him for not being around all the time.
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On April 10 2018 21:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:03 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think exo is town. Come at me. : : Why? Tone innit. Just like what he's saying and the way he's saying it. Probably because it's just copying me and he called me town so I won't interfere.
Lol that’s fair.
I think it would be awesome if Exo and Calix (spelled it right! Yay) were in qt and were like “we both may get lynched. Let’s shitfight and Jedi mindtrick folks.”
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On April 10 2018 21:11 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:07 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 20:56 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar. I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town. Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why? I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer. I’ve been saying he’s town all game. My reasonings haven’t changed at all. I’m willing to bet his “chill and do nothing” is him living a life outside of mafia. Otherwise known as just busy. And frankly, you can not criticize him for not being around all the time. On the contrary, I think his read on me is weak, but towards EoD and since he hasn't done very much. He kinda afked his vote on me and left. I get having a life outside of mafia, but this Rayn doesn't seem like Town Rayn trying to solve the game. Humor me -- based on the past 24 hours, why do you think Rayn is town?
The only thing I didn’t like about rayn was his final read on Eversince. I didn’t think Calix’ case was that good. The only things Calix had right in it were weird reads. Arguably, you can say her point about Eversince only scumming AFK’s is true. But so is the entire game soooooo....yeah.
I read you scummy for your first case. Scumming you for your case wasn’t weak, your case was that bad.
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On April 10 2018 21:19 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:13 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 21:09 Holyflare wrote:On April 10 2018 21:03 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think exo is town. Come at me. : : Why? Tone innit. Just like what he's saying and the way he's saying it. Probably because it's just copying me and he called me town so I won't interfere. Lol that’s fair. I think it would be awesome if Exo and Calix (spelled it right! Yay) were in qt and were like “we both may get lynched. Let’s shitfight and Jedi mindtrick folks.” You know, when pretty much EVERY single scum theory people have made with mafia!Calix consists of “SHE IS HARDCORE BUSSING/ BEING HARDCORE BUSSED” then maybe said theories are shite and something is horribly fucked up somewhere 
I don’t remember that in any case.....  But yeah that would be weird.
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