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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43226 Posts
On April 17 2018 04:50 Calix wrote: Rayn should be the lynch because he complains and berates other people but doesn't contribute anything 'better' or try to fix anything. His filter is full of negative comments, criticisms, etc, but no solutions. Mafia do this because it's easy to point out someone's mistakes but it's harder and actually pro-town to actually create and push for answers. A lot of his scum-reads are just "things that don't make sense" or "I do not understand how it comes from town" and not things that actually make people mafia. He uses lots of WIFOM arguments when defending himself, such as with comments like "I wouldn't do X as mafia" and his latest posts were lacking in substance. By this I mean he introduced gun WIFOM (something which nobody else can confirm or disprove ever) which can only confuse, not clarify, matters for the town. This isn't a case because that implies I want a response from rayn. I just want him dead. I am open to an Oats lynch today as well but I do not actually have a good case on him aside from "POE + dodgy comments + could be scum with most people" so I'm feeling a bit waffly there. Tubesock go read this again because: First part is the definition of reasoning that makes people mafia and i am mafia for using that line of reasoning?  Second one doesn't say anything, like ofc i will say i never do X as mafia because i don't. I don't shoot my mislynches lol. This isn't a case she just wants me dead. mhm.. okay. But she doesn't apparently really want me dead because she can also vote for Oatsmaster but is waffling? What's the point of writing the post when it doesn't end anywhere despite providing a conclusion even before the post ends? | ||
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Calix
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On April 17 2018 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tubesock go read this again because: First part is the definition of reasoning that makes people mafia and i am mafia for using that line of reasoning? Second one doesn't say anything, like ofc i will say i never do X as mafia because i don't. I don't shoot my mislynches lol. This isn't a case she just wants me dead. mhm.. okay. But she doesn't apparently really want me dead because she can also vote for Oatsmaster but is waffling? What's the point of writing the post when it doesn't end anywhere despite providing a conclusion even before the post ends? 1. What I am saying there is that you are picking things which 'don't make sense' but you don't go the extra mile to prove how they make people mafia. It's just "this guy made a mistake/ logical error, therefore I scum-read him". Your analysis is not quite surface-level but it's close because you're not putting actual thought into your reads. Your wall-post is a good example of what I am talking about. 2. Yes, it's saying your defense arguments aren't grounded in anything you've done in the game and those are the PRIMARY arguments you are using. Instead you defend yourself using unfalsifiable arguments which essentially mean nothing. You might as well not have bothered. 3. I want both of you dead. I want you dead more. I am letting people know I can also vote for Oats. Do you have anything worth reading or are you and CH going to nitpick my wording to paint me as mafia? Because that's not going to get you very far. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tubesock go read this again because: First part is the definition of reasoning that makes people mafia and i am mafia for using that line of reasoning? Second one doesn't say anything, like ofc i will say i never do X as mafia because i don't. I don't shoot my mislynches lol. This isn't a case she just wants me dead. mhm.. okay. But she doesn't apparently really want me dead because she can also vote for Oatsmaster but is waffling? What's the point of writing the post when it doesn't end anywhere despite providing a conclusion even before the post ends? On April 17 2018 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah you're right and i am bad. It's Oats/Calix/HF. Tube and CH are gonna throw though.  And I do????? | ||
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Calix
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currentlyhomeless
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so scum are all baddies? its just wifom calix you are pretty aware of what wifom is. i think of all players in the game you said it more than everyone else combined. so why is it that when it conveniences you to throw shade on others for using wifom thats them being scum or wasting time but when you use it, it makes you town | ||
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Calix
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On April 17 2018 22:21 currentlyhomeless wrote: what a stupid line of thought, literally no one decent at scum would shoot any of those players so scum are all baddies? its just wifom calix you are pretty aware of what wifom is. i think of all players in the game you said it more than everyone else combined. so why is it that when it conveniences you to throw shade on others for using wifom thats them being scum or wasting time but when you use it, it makes you town I'm not arguing it makes me town. I literally said earlier in the thread that the night-kills do not confirm me as town. Rayn is defending himself by saying "well I'd never make these kills as mafia" so I am demanding to know why I, as his scum-read, would make those kills as mafia when it makes way less sense for me to have killed those people. | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:26 Calix wrote: I'm not arguing it makes me town. I literally said earlier in the thread that the night-kills do not confirm me as town. Rayn is defending himself by saying "well I'd never make these kills as mafia" so I am demanding to know why I, as his scum-read, would make those kills as mafia when it makes way less sense for me to have killed those people. so youre not arguing it makes you town but youre arguing it makes you town jesus if you actually are town youre seriously so stupid | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
tube i want you to tell me why you think calix is town | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:28 currentlyhomeless wrote: so youre not arguing it makes you town but youre arguing it makes you town jesus if you actually are town youre seriously so stupid That's not what I said. If you are town you should learn how to work with people. Or read. Because you just look like you're trying to argue over irrelevancies and piss people off over anything else. | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:26 Calix wrote: I'm not arguing it makes me town. I literally said earlier in the thread that the night-kills do not confirm me as town. Rayn is defending himself by saying "well I'd never make these kills as mafia" so I am demanding to know why I, as his scum-read, would make those kills as mafia when it makes way less sense for me to have killed those people. i can read fine. you are not making a case for rayn beig scum here you are just defending yourself with wifom | ||
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Calix
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On April 17 2018 22:32 currentlyhomeless wrote: i can read fine. you are not making a case for rayn beig scum here you are just defending yourself with wifom No, you can't. I am using rayn's 'internal logic' against him. He apparently thinks that defending himself via NKs is fine. I'm applying the reasoning THAT HE IS USING to ask why I am mafia who makes those NKs. You do not need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out. Also rayn has been using a shitton of WIFOM in his defense and you think he's scum. Why am I the only person you are attacking for this? I do not understand the difference. According to you, using NK WIFOM is bad. rayn is using NK WIFOM. You think I am using NK WIFOM. Why only talk about what I said exactly when, in your eyes, we were both doing the same thing? | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:12 Calix wrote: Yeah, does anyone wanna explain why I shoot some random AFK people when I was being widely scum-read N1 and N2? Because that's not how I roll either. like this whole post is not defending yourself with wifom? literally the same shit you called rayn out for | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:37 Calix wrote: No, you can't. I am using rayn's 'internal logic' against him. He apparently thinks that defending himself via NKs is fine. I'm applying the reasoning THAT HE IS USING to ask why I am mafia who makes those NKs. You do not need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out. Also rayn has been using a shitton of WIFOM in his defense and you think he's scum. Why am I the only person you are attacking for this? I do not understand the difference. According to you, using NK WIFOM is bad. rayn is using NK WIFOM. You think I am using NK WIFOM. Why only talk about what I said exactly when, in your eyes, we were both doing the same thing? where did he call you scum based on the nks | ||
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currentlyhomeless
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Calix
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On April 17 2018 22:38 currentlyhomeless wrote: where did he call you scum based on the nks What? I'm not saying that he's calling me scum based on NKs. I don't care what nitpicking you do to make it sound like I did because I did not. I'm being very clear with what I'm saying here. You're either obtuse or just mafia. I'm going with the second option. | ||
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Calix
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:41 Calix wrote: What? I'm not saying that he's calling me scum based on NKs. I don't care what nitpicking you do to make it sound like I did because I did not. I'm being very clear with what I'm saying here. You're either obtuse or just mafia. I'm going with the second option. you literally asked the thread how you are scum based on the nks, in response to what rayn said. this is not nitpicking, thats a fucking contradiction. why is rayn scummy for using wifom but you arent for asking the thread why you would kill those players? you don’t get it cause youre scum | ||
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currentlyhomeless
Japan405 Posts
On April 17 2018 22:41 Calix wrote: You are stretching so incredibly hard to avoid voting for rayn here, aren't you? yea you got me | ||
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Calix
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Glad to hear it then. | ||
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