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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 13 2018 21:23 GMT
#2041
I’m on board with Calix Lynch.

##calix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:28 GMT
#2042
What's better than a democracy after all?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:28 GMT
#2043
I have skimmed the thread. I don't understand why people read my post as a soft-claim. It really wasn't. I do not claim blue to save myself as either alignment. I don't do it as blue because blues who play like shit should usually be lynched and I am no exception. I don't do it as mafia because I never do it as blue so claiming a role under pressure would be a scum claim. I am explaining this because this isn't standard TL Mafia site meta and people misunderstood my post as a soft-claim. I do not care if you agree with me or not because I believe this regardless of alignment. You just need to know that this is logic I use.

Anyway I am VT.

I will have more time over the weekend to look into things. But I will have sparse internet access for the foreseeable future so you are just going to have to deal with me mostly posting in the evening. I mention it a lot to make it really fucking clear that no, I cannot spam the thread like I usually do.

ANYWAY it is possible that ExO is legit and that might be why he is posting weirdly. Another point in his favour would be the kills. I am THEORISING that Vivax/ HF/ rayn very likely contain mafia even without ExO claim because none of them are dying. These kills look like status quo shots. Like if I was mafia, I'd only shoot a replacement if I didn't want to upset the current game state.

It is possible that ExO is making a strategic fake claim but setup-wise, it makes sense to have a direct investigative role (yes yes, even if GS is 'technically' investigative). Not 100% convinced he's telling the truth - it would make sense for mafia to claim in his spot - but it looks alright at first glance.

Don't think Tubesock's claim was that bad although claiming Vet outright was dumb. If he genuinely thought I had softed blue then it would make sense for him to think "hm there are too many blue claims, I'm going to claim" after ExO claimed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:30 GMT
#2044
Absolutely amazing wall of text that had a completely nothing conclusion on the two checks.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:33 GMT
#2045
It is also extremely tilting to have one of the biggest filters in the game where most of that filter contains reads and content (which everyone ignores when it comes to 'reading' me) and yet still get called out and mafia-read because I dare to not post occasionally. I would greatly appreciate it if people stopped using activity as a 'tell'. You should all relate to having full-time jobs or generally being busy so it's rather silly, honestly.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:34 GMT
#2046
On April 14 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely amazing wall of text that had a completely nothing conclusion on the two checks.


Yes, I've only skimmed the thread. Actual filtering will happen tomorrow. Because it is half ten and I have not even had dinner yet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:35 GMT
#2047
On April 12 2018 14:26 Calix wrote:
ES and Damdred will probably vote me so I am very likely just dead here. People seriously need to give thought to the insane amount of ES defence compared to people who are actually defending me (AKA nobody). And think about why that might be the case.

Anyway I am off. Not claiming role because if I get lynched over scummy AF Eversince then I played bad and deserve lynch, anyway.

Break a leg :p


I will never believe this wasn't a blue soft.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:37 GMT
#2048
On April 14 2018 06:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 14:26 Calix wrote:
ES and Damdred will probably vote me so I am very likely just dead here. People seriously need to give thought to the insane amount of ES defence compared to people who are actually defending me (AKA nobody). And think about why that might be the case.

Anyway I am off. Not claiming role because if I get lynched over scummy AF Eversince then I played bad and deserve lynch, anyway.

Break a leg :p


I will never believe this wasn't a blue soft.


You're entitled to your wrong conclusion. If you guys are going to lynch me over something this dumb then let me know please so I don't waste my time on this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:37 GMT
#2049
On April 14 2018 06:34 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely amazing wall of text that had a completely nothing conclusion on the two checks.


Yes, I've only skimmed the thread. Actual filtering will happen tomorrow. Because it is half ten and I have not even had dinner yet.


You've only skimmed the thread but pretty much weighed in on everything that wasn't relevant. How about where you stand with the claims off the top of your head. Snap judgement.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 13 2018 21:43 GMT
#2050
On April 14 2018 06:33 Calix wrote:
It is also extremely tilting to have one of the biggest filters in the game where most of that filter contains reads and content (which everyone ignores when it comes to 'reading' me) and yet still get called out and mafia-read because I dare to not post occasionally. I would greatly appreciate it if people stopped using activity as a 'tell'. You should all relate to having full-time jobs or generally being busy so it's rather silly, honestly.


While I know people said you dropped off, but that’s not he primary reason you’re being scummed. It’s your EOD1. Your activity doesn’t matter but starting off active and dropping off is more scum indicative than town. But again, the primary reason isn’t your activity.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:43 GMT
#2051
On April 14 2018 06:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:34 Calix wrote:
On April 14 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely amazing wall of text that had a completely nothing conclusion on the two checks.


Yes, I've only skimmed the thread. Actual filtering will happen tomorrow. Because it is half ten and I have not even had dinner yet.


You've only skimmed the thread but pretty much weighed in on everything that wasn't relevant. How about where you stand with the claims off the top of your head. Snap judgement.


I gave my opinion on ExO/ Tubesock?

If you're asking about the two checks then I think you would be the mafia on first skim. Because a) rayn's reaction (where he's a bit skeptical and like "well okay but I think HF is town and this claim would be good for mafia so idfk man") seemed townie because he's showing doubt at the right time. You kinda did this too with saying "well your softs don't make sense m8" on ExO but you wanting to lynch outside of the claimed PC/ checks is pretty bad. Like either ExO is telling the truth, in which case rayn should be very likely scum to you, or ExO is full of shit and is mafia.

So saying I am somehow the superior lynch for a not-really-a-blue-soft is off from town!HF perspective. Because you have this 1v1 kinda situation where there is definitely mafia somewhere FYPOV and you want to lynch me instead.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 13 2018 21:48 GMT
#2052
Anyone wanting to lynch anybody other than HF or Rayn is scum.I’m telling the truth, but if you don’t believe me you should 100% be pushing me. There’s literally no other way to look at this logically from a town perspective

HF/TS scum for wanting to lynch outside of this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:51 GMT
#2053
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 21:52 GMT
#2054
Especially when calix softed blue (at least in my mind) to survive a lynch.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:52 GMT
#2055
On April 14 2018 06:43 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:33 Calix wrote:
It is also extremely tilting to have one of the biggest filters in the game where most of that filter contains reads and content (which everyone ignores when it comes to 'reading' me) and yet still get called out and mafia-read because I dare to not post occasionally. I would greatly appreciate it if people stopped using activity as a 'tell'. You should all relate to having full-time jobs or generally being busy so it's rather silly, honestly.


While I know people said you dropped off, but that’s not he primary reason you’re being scummed. It’s your EOD1. Your activity doesn’t matter but starting off active and dropping off is more scum indicative than town. But again, the primary reason isn’t your activity.


Great, how's that working out for you? You have never reconsidered - incorrectly and arrogantly, if you are town - and have not deigned to analyse my D2 content so there is zero way for your read to ever progress. Hardly anyone has. It is like I am talking to walls.

Feeling like nobody gives a shit about what you are saying usually makes for a dull game.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 21:54 GMT
#2056
On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.


Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 13 2018 22:04 GMT
#2057
On April 14 2018 06:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:43 Tubesock wrote:
On April 14 2018 06:33 Calix wrote:
It is also extremely tilting to have one of the biggest filters in the game where most of that filter contains reads and content (which everyone ignores when it comes to 'reading' me) and yet still get called out and mafia-read because I dare to not post occasionally. I would greatly appreciate it if people stopped using activity as a 'tell'. You should all relate to having full-time jobs or generally being busy so it's rather silly, honestly.


While I know people said you dropped off, but that’s not he primary reason you’re being scummed. It’s your EOD1. Your activity doesn’t matter but starting off active and dropping off is more scum indicative than town. But again, the primary reason isn’t your activity.


Great, how's that working out for you? You have never reconsidered - incorrectly and arrogantly, if you are town - and have not deigned to analyse my D2 content so there is zero way for your read to ever progress. Hardly anyone has. It is like I am talking to walls.

Feeling like nobody gives a shit about what you are saying usually makes for a dull game.


Lol people have been telling me they don’t read any of my posts either. Get over it.

I hated your last day 2 post. The rest of your posts were whining that people can’t scum you because of bussing/getting bussed. Not doing towny stuff.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 22:07 GMT
#2058
On April 14 2018 06:54 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.


Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck.


Why is it weak? If there's a framer rayn isn't a bad frame n1 or me n2. Miller is statistically low odds but not unheard of at all. Just because something in a game is improbable doesn't make it bad in the slightest. It's worse to blindly follow probability.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 22:10 GMT
#2059
On April 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:54 Calix wrote:
On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.


Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck.


Why is it weak? If there's a framer rayn isn't a bad frame n1 or me n2. Miller is statistically low odds but not unheard of at all. Just because something in a game is improbable doesn't make it bad in the slightest. It's worse to blindly follow probability.


I also would quite like to get mafia today outside of this claim and then see what the nk looks like after that.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 13 2018 22:15 GMT
#2060
On April 14 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 06:54 Calix wrote:
On April 14 2018 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
There's framer, miller etc. I think lynching outside the claims isn't bad at all.


Statistically speaking, the odds of this affecting results are extremely low so using that as an excuse is weak as fuck.


Why is it weak? If there's a framer rayn isn't a bad frame n1 or me n2. Miller is statistically low odds but not unheard of at all. Just because something in a game is improbable doesn't make it bad in the slightest. It's worse to blindly follow probability.


It is weak because you have decided to lynch outside of claims unreasonably quickly without properly evaluating the two players. If one were to evaluate the cop claim and the other check and go "well actually I think both are town, we probably just have a mind-fuck cop check somewhere?" or something before voting elsewhere then this would make more sense.

Also mafia people who get checked tend to bring up Framer/ Miller/ Godfather/ etc more often than town people do in this situation. Because it gives them a chance of escaping the constraints of a 1v1.

Of course, it is POSSIBLE that Framer/ Miller/ Godfather/ whatever fucked with ExO's results. But going "this unlikely scenario could have happened therefore we should leave all the involved parties alive" is not sensible.
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