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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 10:33 GMT
#2097
Okay it's now 6:30AM and I need to get out of my warm, comfy bed. Ugh. I'll be back much much later
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 10:35 GMT
#2100
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

Similar to last game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 10:36 GMT
#2101
On March 23 2018 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.

wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were.

In the next game as mafia you decided it's a good plan to roleblock yourself to give town another mislynch as last mafia alive immediately losing you the game so sorry i have a really hard time seeing you being a world class mafia player.

Now talk about something that is not your ego.


Flames
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 11:41 GMT
#2120
On March 23 2018 19:35 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

Similar to last game

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:44 GMT
#2195
On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track

What would lead you to this assumption?

Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion.

Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration.


Lol I think ykl is town
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:47 GMT
#2196
On March 23 2018 22:36 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 20:52 Conversion wrote:
also recent posts here give me good vibes about people who jumped on me, so I’m now wondering whether the 6 votes on me was a pure wagon.. hm. contrary to my previous opinion of that wagon not being pure


anyways, just as a clarification to this point-- if there are any scum in my wagon I'd have to narrow it down to Koshi/DF, more leaning towards DF.

that's what I meant when I though the wagon wasn't pure, but I am now unsure.


So I'm the scum who went out on a limb and started a Conversion wagon instead of consolidating on another wagon? And everyone else (6 people) who followed me were all town.

okay
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:48 GMT
#2197
On March 23 2018 22:45 Conversion wrote:
Meanwhile KSC has used an offensive slur against DF and called him for acting gay, and no one blinks an eye.


Oh I noticed that. I think the guy is a huge dick so I haven't been interested in interacting with him. I appreciate you calling him out too
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:49 GMT
#2199
On March 23 2018 23:20 Conversion wrote:
I'm not mad at people calling me mafia I'm mad at people telling me my behavior has been shitty. where the fuck do you people get off talking shit about my behavior while you silently condone a dude literally making homophobic slurs and calling people outright retarded?


Because that guy "looks townie!!!!!" so it's okay.

/s
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:55 GMT
#2204
##Vote: n00bking
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:57 GMT
#2210
On March 24 2018 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where were there slurs?


On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


On March 22 2018 07:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


1. He's not gay
2. He's not a gypsy
3. If this was supposed to be humorous, it missed the mark


must have been the way you were RPing it, my mistake


So yea, it was definitely meant to be an insult. But i'm going to leave this to post game actions discussion
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 17:58 GMT
#2215
On March 24 2018 02:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:31 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><

I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.

Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE.

In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.


I appreciate the caps lock frequency. It really screams "I'm secure about my ability as a player."

jesus christ


Why did you post this 10 times?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:00 GMT
#2219
On March 24 2018 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:17 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.


Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter

The ironyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

rayn may be arrogant as shit but what you posted was as equally arrogant darthfoley


Fair enough
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:04 GMT
#2230
On March 24 2018 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
OH HEY MY NAME IS DARTHFOLEY BTW RAYN YOUR ARROGANT AS SHIT I DONT LIKE YOU HAHAA 12 BTW BTW IM GOING TO CALL NOOBKING ABSOLUTE SHIT BECAUSE HE DOESNT PLAY THE WAY I WANT HIM TOO HAHAA 12 BTW EKS DEE NOT ARROGANT AT ALL MYSELF HAHAA


Where did I call n00bking absolute shit? I made a sarcastic comment about his use of caps lock.

My point was that most people who are the best don't feel the need to remind people constantly. I don't think he's a shit player. But I also don't think he's mafia Jesus
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:16 GMT
#2241
On March 24 2018 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

Similar to last game

lol OBJECTIVELY untrue.

You say noobking had a strong D1 last game
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 23 2018 19:22 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
You know I completely forgot noobking was in this game. Not a good sign


This is also a feeling I had after n00bking made that arrogant "I'm the best player to walk the earth" post. That's the last thing I remember him doing, saying, or believing.

I hesistate comparing this game to last game too much because last game was themed and very hard for mafia. But n00bjing had a strong D1 last game and a semi strong D1 this game (at least in terms of activity). I also agreed with HF/Mocsta's assessment of him early.

And if you read the scum QT you'd know that noobking gave up after prplhz got lynched D1 which is why his posts went to absolute shit afterwards. It's why his D1 and afterwards were completely different.

So unless you're lying and noobking DIDN'T have a strong D1, you're an idiot and this post makes no sense :D


He had a strong d1 last game, but that was mainly from activity and length. I, like others, felt he fell off hard after D1. It's understandable given his situation with prplhz. I never read the mafia QT because I didn't care much about a themed quirky game.

Thanks for calling me an idiot!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:17 GMT
#2243
On March 24 2018 03:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 23 2018 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You too Tina.
Last game i actually played i instantly caught you for all the right reasons regardless of what you say and think.
You can keep your Koshi circle too.

On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote:
Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.

I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted.
The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.

Dude. Rayn. Tone down the aggression. Absolutely nothing transpired that warrants this aggression or anger from you. You get scum read, sucks man. Wagons don't go your way, feels bad. It doesn't warrant an outpouring of whining and anger. In fact, things are generally going your way and the majority of people are town reading you.

Same thing with rsoultin.

I get that you guys are veterans of this site and might feel entitled for some reason but I feel uncomfortable that you guys frequently flip the whiny frustrated switch at the smallest sign of resistance. And it contributes to a substantially shittier game.

I dont think i am being aggressive, sarcastic yes.
I get frustrated when people cant even think why i am doing the things i do. It doesnt matter to me if they scumread me or not but i cba to argue in my defense against things that are completely hilarious.

Idk, i might start playing like disformation here, just comment on every thing that goes on in thread but never actually do anything with any information. I promise i will do that next game, it will for my own amusement.

Dont even ask why i react to Koshi as i do.

Funnily enough i do t feel like talking to anyone in this game atm except for Palmar and Mocsta, aside from you. Nothing has been done today except apparently people managed to kill Conversion and dick move analysis alone says he is town, so well done moat likely.

Im just gonna get drunk tonight and probably tomorrow as well.

-pokes-

I keep making people not want to play. Including myself. Join me on heroes?

I'm not even sure what I've been doing so wrong this game >< other than being wrong a whole fucking lot. But yeah.


Idk I've never felt like you make me not want to play; quite the opposite actually. You remind me of an irl mafia friend so perhaps that helps
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:19 GMT
#2245
On March 24 2018 03:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 11:24 darthfoley wrote:
On March 15 2018 10:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
What Mocsta says is very true. I definitely contributed to the toxicity during my stay here in the past but it was definitely encouraged by others.

This game wasn't that bad in terms of bullying or telling people they suck so I did enjoy playing.


Yes, there are some people I know I won't enjoy playing with as much as others for the reasons you state.

I do agree that too often, people go to the OMGUS method. This game I didn't for a few reasons. I don't even know what other sites people play on, so I can't really have other reference points.

I just didn't think this game was the right time to bring that up. There have defffffinitely been a few games where I would 100% agree with you and Mocsta

Can we all remember this glorious quote from darthfoley from last game

eks dee haHAA


Yup, and I don't think that post was particularly controversial. I would say that generally Mocsta is being proven right this game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 18:20 GMT
#2247
On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off


No idea actually. It seemed to come out of nowhere
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 21:19 GMT
#2275
On March 24 2018 05:54 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 22:46 Conversion wrote:
I'm done with this. All of you can just waste your fucking day and policy lynch me.


Uhh what? This was a pretty civil discussion until you apparently wound yourself up over shit that happened days ago?

I hate to potentially add fuel to the fire here, but this comes off as fake to me. Like nobody is even talking about lynching you today and Rsoul is very clearly trying to have a civil discussion. Compared to your reaction when there was a giant wagon forming on you yesterday I’m just left scratching my head here.


I mean he wasn't bluffing. The dude got himself modkilled
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 21:19 GMT
#2276
On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later


Who's your favorite smasher?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
March 23 2018 23:39 GMT
#2293
On March 24 2018 08:28 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 03:04 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's a shit player. But I also don't think he's mafia Jesus

This is a pic of me from December, choking out a so-called "strongman."

[image loading]


lmaooo I don't know if I can ever vote for you after that
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