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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:44 GMT
#3145
On March 26 2018 22:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:36 Koshi wrote:
Because I am not committed to this game. Quite simple. I still think I played quite well d1 and I didnt play at all d2.

I also dont really know who is mafia because I didnt read much for 48ish hours.

I dont really care atm about winning or losing because this game isnt something I cared about.

you literally just wrote

"so it is palmar"

What insightful analysis has caused you to reach that conclusion?

I dont know. If I didnt write it I forgot. I dont think rayn is mafia. I dont think mocsta is mafia. I remove coag for the seal. So not much is left. I always thought tt was town.

"the one in which koshi poe's himself"
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:46 GMT
#3147
and yes I'm very much fine with disfo, he's been active and just doesn't sound like mafia. I'm probably more inclined to tinfoil lynch mocsta than him.

But thanks to morons who can't be arsed to play the game we don't have the luxury of mislynching bad claimers to teach them a lesson.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#3150
On March 26 2018 22:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:43 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:36 Koshi wrote:
Because I am not committed to this game. Quite simple. I still think I played quite well d1 and I didnt play at all d2.

I also dont really know who is mafia because I didnt read much for 48ish hours.

I dont really care atm about winning or losing because this game isnt something I cared about.

you literally just wrote

"so it is palmar"

What insightful analysis has caused you to reach that conclusion?

I dont know. If I didnt write it I forgot. I dont think rayn is mafia. I dont think mocsta is mafia. I remove coag for the seal. So not much is left. I always thought tt was town.

"the one in which koshi poe's himself"

Simply not true.

I'm being facetious, cheer up mate
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:50 GMT
#3153
On March 26 2018 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:46 Palmar wrote:
and yes I'm very much fine with disfo, he's been active and just doesn't sound like mafia. I'm probably more inclined to tinfoil lynch mocsta than him.

But thanks to morons who can't be arsed to play the game we don't have the luxury of mislynching bad claimers to teach them a lesson.


From what I heard you pushed hard on NK... claimed tracker who played.

Sure, I thought he was mafia. I was wrong.

He just spoke with an authority that made me think he was a good player.

turns out he was just a bad player who gets stuck on the stupidest things.

And you know just as well as me that this part "claimed tracker who played." is complete fabrication. He never even claimed tracker afaik, he just said he was blue while trolling the thread and posting baby seals.

Are you telling me that somehow koshi prime the prince of belgium would have recognized "ah, this baby-seal-posting, trolling, blue-claiming asshole is clearly town".

Maybe with perfect information

give me a break
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:51 GMT
#3156
On March 26 2018 22:48 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:47 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:46 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:44 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:43 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:39 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:36 Koshi wrote:
Because I am not committed to this game. Quite simple. I still think I played quite well d1 and I didnt play at all d2.

I also dont really know who is mafia because I didnt read much for 48ish hours.

I dont really care atm about winning or losing because this game isnt something I cared about.

you literally just wrote

"so it is palmar"

What insightful analysis has caused you to reach that conclusion?

I dont know. If I didnt write it I forgot. I dont think rayn is mafia. I dont think mocsta is mafia. I remove coag for the seal. So not much is left. I always thought tt was town.

"the one in which koshi poe's himself"

Simply not true.

I'm being facetious, cheer up mate

stop ignoring feacal

it is now feacetiousfeast


what the hell are you on about?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:54 GMT
#3159
On March 26 2018 22:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:46 Palmar wrote:
and yes I'm very much fine with disfo, he's been active and just doesn't sound like mafia. I'm probably more inclined to tinfoil lynch mocsta than him.

But thanks to morons who can't be arsed to play the game we don't have the luxury of mislynching bad claimers to teach them a lesson.


I'll believe you. I somewhat like your posting as well. The tone that is. Oh well. I guess mafia is being chill right now so dnu what it means.

Anyway. My current guess might be fefe df moosy and then somebody I am forgetting or something. Or is it mocsta.. blah. Rayn? No. TT? Coag. Seal and then who is the last?

I mean...

the simplest answer is just that you're mafia my friend.

But, to prove what a great person I am, and show you how to not be a complete ass when you think someone is mafia, I'm gonna actually keep talking to you. Maybe I'm just bad and you're just lazy as shit and rayn is in a corner somewhere laughing his ass off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 13:55 GMT
#3161
On March 26 2018 22:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 22:50 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:46 Palmar wrote:
and yes I'm very much fine with disfo, he's been active and just doesn't sound like mafia. I'm probably more inclined to tinfoil lynch mocsta than him.

But thanks to morons who can't be arsed to play the game we don't have the luxury of mislynching bad claimers to teach them a lesson.


From what I heard you pushed hard on NK... claimed tracker who played.

Sure, I thought he was mafia. I was wrong.

He just spoke with an authority that made me think he was a good player.

turns out he was just a bad player who gets stuck on the stupidest things.

And you know just as well as me that this part "claimed tracker who played." is complete fabrication. He never even claimed tracker afaik, he just said he was blue while trolling the thread and posting baby seals.

Are you telling me that somehow koshi prime the prince of belgium would have recognized "ah, this baby-seal-posting, trolling, blue-claiming asshole is clearly town".

Maybe with perfect information

give me a break

Didnt read anything but rsoultin night post on you.

Everything I say is the truth btw. Dont believe it now. But remember it when I flip.


if you flip town friendo, game is over.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 14:03 GMT
#3169
On March 26 2018 22:58 Koshi wrote:
I also play for survival but it is for town. I just need you people to take a step back and rethink eon1 when ALOT of people townread me for my posting.

My only crime d2 was not posting a lot and it is on you people to scumread me for not posting.


Like... I played a good but not active game. But cant do much against thread sentiment.


There's more than just that.

You also have a very inconvenient claim and frankly you sound much less good than the other two claimers. Additionally while I kinda like this koshi who is a bit more chill, I've come to associate town koshi with zero tolerance wrath towards your chosen lynch targets, to the point where being targeted by you is simply unpleasant.

You're going to have to come up with more than just "I guess this guy is mafia".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:31 GMT
#3179
On March 27 2018 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is disformation not mafia?

because he doesn't talk like mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:40 GMT
#3184
On March 27 2018 00:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 10:08 Mocsta wrote:
So.. after reading Koshi filter - clearly scum as we already predict.
I also think Palmar is just as clear.
Note this post
On March 22 2018 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you (still) think Koshi is mafia?
On March 22 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
I don't think I ever thought koshi was mafia. I don't really care about koshi until he starts playing. I haven't noticed him playing much at all.

He hasn't found any kind of a tunnel to get settled in to yet, so maybe it's fine, but maybe this is just weak scum koshi. I don't think he's a primary lynch candidate right now.

Very relevant for player to player interactions.

The third scum is clearly Disfo because of the fake claim & how both Palmar/Koshi targetted him Day1.

The forth scum is the interesting one. I originally thought Moosy - but I suspect its actually now FF.

Both Palmar/Koshi are very obliging about eliminating Moosy and keeping FF.
In particular, when Palmar starts talking about vig shots on all lurkers (bar FF),

So scum team is: Koshi / Palmar / Disfo / FeacalFeast


rayn

FYI


You need to remove me and probably disfo from that list.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:42 GMT
#3186
On March 27 2018 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not really seeing your case because it is all unflipped associations.
Also Koshi called disformation mafia and afaik he claimed rb so rb makes sense if there is a mafia vet.

You think it's likely that the town roles are rb+jk.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:43 GMT
#3190
On March 27 2018 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar alwasy talks about vigshotting lurkers because it is basically what he thinks vig's are invented for.

That's what they are for.

Vigilantes should kill liars and lurkers. If there are no lurkers or liars, shoot people who shit up the thread, but this never happens as there's always lurkers.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:45 GMT
#3193
On March 27 2018 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't care, i don't know what roles scum have so i can't know what roles town has / would have.

we know we have:

tracker + jk

and we have some combination of

vig/vet/rb

Don't act like you don't know this.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 15:57 GMT
#3205
On March 27 2018 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am well aware what combination of roles we have or can have. It ahs nothing to do with what i said because what roles scum have will obviously matter in what we have.

It's almost irrelevant, if mocsta is town then we have exactly 1kp that can target mafia. town cannot coordinate actions (rb + vigi) because claiming is dumb as town.

so no, rb to counter mafia vet is just fantasy
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:00 GMT
#3207
On March 27 2018 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You very well know palmar that a smart host decides to put "stupid" combination of roles just because people do this shit all the time where they try to game the setup. Maybe someone will make the argument that Mocsta is mafia because no way in hell would a host put so many investigative roles in the game.


On March 25 2018 08:22 Palmar wrote:
There is a missing kill btw, but I don't think Mocsta is ever gonna flip mafia.

a normal game is: 10v3 = 13 players
this is: ??vs? = 20 players

if those numbers are 16vs4, that means town has gained 6 players for 1 mafia. harsh for mafia
if those numbers are 15vs5, that means town gained 5 townies for 2 mafia, harsh for town.

So the most likely scenario, by far, is that mafia has 4 players, but some extra killing power. Mafia may have held a shot, we may have a doc, we may have a mafia vigilante who hasn't shot etc etc.





For post game bragging rights I did bring up the Mocsta=mafia tinfoil theory and a good reason why it may be true,

but honestly I'm just never gonna lynch mocsta because of activity.

I'd much rather go out killing shitty lazy townies than by tinfoiling myself into killing a townie that's actually trying. And if mocsta is scum he made a clever claim and followed up with activity so hats off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:03 GMT
#3210
yeah but honestly, if you look at the numbers, there's been no indication that mafia has any extra kp, and I think (I cba doing the math) the game would be mathematically over if we have 5 mafia. So we have 4 mafia and unusually many townies.

I don't know how that is balanced without mocsta being scum. But maybe hosts are just bad at balancing.

OR maybe hosts are next-level and anticipated half of town being full of shitheads who get themselves modkilled, and counted that as mafia kp

best hosts tbh.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:04 GMT
#3213
in any case, you're going to have to prove disfo is mafia rayn.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:08 GMT
#3218
On March 27 2018 01:04 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 01:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah but honestly, if you look at the numbers, there's been no indication that mafia has any extra kp, and I think (I cba doing the math) the game would be mathematically over if we have 5 mafia. So we have 4 mafia and unusually many townies.

I don't know how that is balanced without mocsta being scum. But maybe hosts are just bad at balancing.

OR maybe hosts are next-level and anticipated half of town being full of shitheads who get themselves modkilled, and counted that as mafia kp

best hosts tbh.

yeah i think with 5 mafia it would be 5-5 now and game ogre

oh shit we're 6v4 not 7v4

yeah of course, then it's guaranteed we have 4 mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:09 GMT
#3220
On March 27 2018 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is easy, he has been in the thread like all the time commenting on everything thats going on in the game but never does anything with any information.

good case would sheep
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 26 2018 16:09 GMT
#3221
On March 27 2018 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oki i gotta prepare for work, see you in the morning.

much help thanks
Computer says mafia
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