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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:21 GMT
#2023
On March 20 2018 09:08 Mocsta wrote:
The #188 timestamp pinged me.

Indicates active lurking against #187.
The speculation becomes why n00bking feels Ex0that is worth delurking for.


still relevant

On March 20 2018 08:58 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.

Mmhmm. "/out because too many players" and "can't be bothered to read the setup" is no kind of inconsistency.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:31 GMT
#2026
On March 20 2018 11:55 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:44 Tictock wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:22 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:12 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.



point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.


Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier.

Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which.


?????????

What a contrived way of saying nothing


Either he’s VT and doesn’t care enough to try, or scum and not saying much


And how does that further your goal of finding scum if that can be said for anyone else in the game? IE he's town or mafia. That much is obvious. Anyone is town or mafia. The addendums you just put there don't change the fact that it's a completely pointless statement to make?


He’s VT or mafia — not blue. That’s the distinction here


First off, I have no idea how on earth you believe that you can tell if HF is a role or not based on his ~4 posts.

Second, there is literally no reason why town should be concerned about someone being a role or not in the first few hours of the game.

Third, even IF you did somehow have a god read about HF's role status you should realize it is only in Mafia's interest to point that out.

##Vote: Exo

I just can't believe you actually have this "role read", and can be this bothered by Vivax pinging you to hard defend it as town.

This is a super-terrible reason to vote against someone.

It is only in Mafia's interest for a TOWN player to point it out. It's not really in Mafia's interest at all for Mafia to point it out. What is the Mafia motivation supposed to be, for making such an observation?
2nd delurk to defend ExO_
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:31 GMT
#2027
On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey Mocsta what's your read on me right now?
town

like you pissed me off EoD1 by voting me

but i like the way you have dropped the trolling this cycle.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:34 GMT
#2028
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.
Note that slam was using my call out on ykl to apply pressure.

The real question is, why is n00bking treating slam an unproductive, in particular given both parties had an interest in ykl.

TMI?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:37 GMT
#2029
On March 20 2018 13:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm about to head to bed. Pretty happy with my vote on Exo, and am now thinking Noob has a good shot at being mafia as well.

Like I said before I don't get where Exo's head is at at all if he is town, and he looks to me like mafia trying to put out reads but is only able to come up with half assed stuff that makes little sense.

Noob prob mafia for calling my vote bad, then sheeping koshi...

I think I have one other scum read atm as well, but I feel like there might be something throwing that read off so I want to hold off and see if anything changes. It's kinda half based off feels and tone atm anyways.
This is a good post from tictock in context of what happened circa page 15.

I would lynch n00bking over tictock based on this.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 04:43 GMT
#2030
On March 20 2018 16:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 16:03 rsoultin wrote:
Oh yeah also thought the exo reads were decent, both the tone ones (I think that was mocsta) and the content ones (viva?). I really don't like his posting either. Would take that with a grain of salt though because I don't tend to townread exo like ever. Something about his tone has a habit of pinging me.

yeah, that is kinda my problem here as well. totally misread and ml him in hosts revenge and the liquidmania qualifier I played in.
i give disfo a townlean here
re: Exo. - filter beforehand already indicated he agreed with vivax reasoning.

This feels like a genuine "yeah that was a good point and i agree moment" then "i say this as a free back-door to unvote"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 05:05 GMT
#2031
On March 20 2018 20:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 20:27 Palmar wrote:
So here's the argument as I understood it (I'm ignoring some early parts):

1) Exo claims hf is "not blue"
2) Ticktock votes Exo for this, claiming he doesn't believe exo has such a read (I agree, that's a stupid read)
3) noobking makes the claim that exo's read makes no sense from either perspective (aka, not really relevant)

This is where I get confused. You respond with this hf:

On March 20 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
[red]Not really true. Mafia want to post anything they can under the guise of scum hunting. Posting that I'm not a role isn't helping mafia in ANY way, it doesn't further any kind of scum read since I'm vt or mafia and it's just a completely empty read with nothing said. Good scum read.


In which you sound like you disagree with noobking (red) and then agree with him (green). Then you say "good scum read", when I don't really see him scumreading anyone, or is that referring to someone else?

what am I missing?


Ticktock says makes exo mafia for irrelevant post. I agreed with ticktock.

Noobking says it doesn't make him mafia, in fact it makes him more likely TOWN because "it doesn't help mafia to post like that".

I disagree with his premise that it makes exo town. I still agree with ticktock that it makes exo more likely mafia. It's an irrelevant post that has no real reason to post it for. It looks like he's scum hunting by posting a read but it's not actually a read.

[red]Then noobking argues with me that it doesn't try and look like scum hunting instead of anything to do with exo's motivation for posting in the first place. Drawn down to semantics.
Perhaps not semantics.. rather, TMI
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 05:28 GMT
#2032
On March 21 2018 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
@darth second question, regarding the point I made earlier on that ticktock just reposted. Why did you leave exo off town list ?
On March 21 2018 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
I left ExO the town list because my opinion of him decreased
This marks one of the first times DF breaks from roleplay and its important.

Like, what DF writes is technically consistent with the below: however, in context of Kelsier point, its total bullshit.

+ Show Spoiler [Kelsier good point] +
On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.


yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders


I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general.

he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres


gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out.
I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP.

On March 21 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation.

....
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 07:42 GMT
#2036
Why kill conversion

Talk to me
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 07:48 GMT
#2037
Just cos nk is different doesnt mean not scum
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 08:02 GMT
#2039
On March 23 2018 16:55 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I don't disagree on nk, mocsta. I expected some night action analysis given his perception of how the game should be played and there wasn't any that i noticed?

As for conversion...he feels different than the game I was scum in. Like wasn't he trying to be a new and better conversion? Don't see that here at all.

I thought conv got all emo that game and almost rage quit?

I must say hes a complete minf blank to me when i think of him in this game.
Thats not a good thinf
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 08:06 GMT
#2040
What do you think about the stuff above with darthfoley?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 08:14 GMT
#2042
Hmmmm
Perhaps that is a deal scum indicator

I jumped onto him cos i had no idea. This is in my filter a few timea as well.

He couldnt jump onto me cos im town, but no reference posts... so tmi in the moment

I am contemplatinf replacing cos this game is taking ocer my life in a bad way.

If i stay i will read conv pronto
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 08:29 GMT
#2045
Well i only stopped tr you after you drank the hf lynch mocsta juice

Anyways. Pointless item.

Thats df in general.

What about df with what i wrote preivous page.
The exo exclusion is not good...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 09:26 GMT
#2054
On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Ok yeah, I'm finally back. Kinda got stuck with some RL stuff last 2 days. Just kinda quickly read up the last few pages.

Quick reply to n00bking firstly:
I was kind of hesitating on the first day vote, that was quite terrible and came about since I woke up at 6am trying to do a last minute decision before the deadline at 7am my time. Probably not the best of ideas. I made a snap judgement between the front runners and it was pretty much that. I'm also not too sure where you're reading fear from tbh, I've been nothing but very open and the fear/dodging that you want to attribute to me was more lack of time just having to keep up with the thread.
And also: "instead" of putting your vote on me.


So general game stuff:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track, there's probably a pool of KelsierSC, Koshi, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, ticktock, fecalfeast there? I'd try and filter them out one by one later to take a look.

Can anyone point out which page was the start of the rels push, I want reread what the heck happened there since I was slightly sleep dazed and reading off a tablet.

Rels was around the p70 zone.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 09:26 GMT
#2055
palmar

i shall sheep

##Vote: n00bking
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 09:50 GMT
#2066
vivax was shot im sure for the same reason i shot kelsier that game.

because i was comfortable and undetected, so wanted to disrupt circle and leave big players on wrong path.
in vivax case he was a hard town read for many, so it helps with PoE.

the thing is, it points to a strategic thinker to do a kill like that.. i.e. n00bking.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 09:51 GMT
#2067
yeah, lol medic dodge.

guess thats the same intent in 2 words lol
but implies comfort and forward thinking.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 11:01 GMT
#2114
#2110 is solid
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 23 2018 11:26 GMT
#2117
n00b

you are scum because, for all your proclamations of being world-class, you are merely existing; content to reply to others and one-post pressure lurkers.

you stand for game theory; over the actual game at hand.

you are mafia and i have no interest in i or others trying to force a confession.

if you had a chance to be town; the next 30hrs will prove it in your filter as the onus is on you to pressure your reads; not the other way around.

good luck
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