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raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 08:57 GMT

#2049

And you look nothing like your last scumgame.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 09:03 GMT

#2050

On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><

I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 09:47 GMT

#2063

Oh i forgot. I will keep a list of this. Idk what other people read as big names but here's the list still:

On March 23 2018 06:24 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names.

Holyflare
Vivax - although i have absolutely no idea why Vivax was shot here since this game he was never going to convince anyone of anything, at least alive. Probably medic dodge.
Mocsta - i for once agree with Koshi here 100%
Koshi - townread
Palmar - townread
rsoultin - townread

rels - i am pretty sure df can't claim i wasn't being aggressive with Rels since i voted for him, twice.
We will see if i would actually need to be aggressive with big names. So far looking pretty good for df, don't you think?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 09:49 GMT

#2064

I will most likely sheep Holyflare or Palmar here. That honestly probably means i will vote for noobking or tictock actually instead. I am gonna let df and disformation be and say "i told you so" post game.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:12 GMT

#2079

On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote:
Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.

I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted.
The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:19 GMT

#2086

On March 23 2018 19:17 darthfoley wrote:

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On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:

On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:

On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:

On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game

On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.

On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*

Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.

On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:

On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:

On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:

On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.

On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"

Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:

s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.

He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.

On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.

Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.

I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".

We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter

The ironyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:26 GMT

#2090

On March 23 2018 19:22 n00bKing wrote:

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I provided 3 meaningful discussion points? Maybe discuss them? ONE person has made ONE comment on ONE of the 3 of them.

No you didn't, especially when you vote off of those three people. I don't even know if you scumread any of them or not and if you do why is your vote on Tictock instead if you want them discussed?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:31 GMT

#2094

On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.

wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:34 GMT

#2098

On March 23 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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In the next game as mafia you decided it's a good plan to roleblock yourself to give town another mislynch as last mafia alive immediately losing you the game so sorry i have a really hard time seeing you being a world class mafia player.

Now talk about something that is not your ego.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:40 GMT

#2103

That's apparently true. I didn't even notice that because it's not how strongman usually works here.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:44 GMT

#2106

On March 23 2018 19:41 n00bKing wrote:

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Because I actually know how to accomplish more than one thing at the same time?

From what i know no you don't, at least as town you don't.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:45 GMT

#2107

On March 23 2018 19:41 n00bKing wrote:

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Because I actually know how to accomplish more than one thing at the same time?

So do you scumread them or not?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:58 GMT

#2110

Okay look noobking.

Your post about 3 lurkers basically says nothing but that they are lurking. If you want to pressure them or think they are mafia i don't understand at all why you are voting for tictock instead, especially since you claimed on D1 that killing the non-playing people (aka sicklucker there) is the best play. I think you are directly contradicting what you said on D1 here, because -- as you are a logical player -- logically you should want to pressure lurkers to talk or kill them (as per your stance on D1). Which to me looks really scummy since you did this shit last game hard core. You pressed all people to scumhunt and then you threew it all into trash by voting for an afk Kelsier who was never gonna be lynched at the EoD. I don't care if you swapped your vote on Rels here, it doesn't take much brain to correct your obvious "mistake" you made as mafia last game.

The point is. If you think the lurkers are mafia, why aren't you pressuring them instead of voting for Tictock? Why aren't you actually even calling them mafia? If you think they are not mafia why the hell are you even talking about them? What is the point?

People are not commenting on your stuff because you are not really saying anything. If you wanna say something say why you think they are mafia or don't bring them up if you don't. Because to me it looks like you are just trying to find targets to lynch instead of trying to find mafia. If one person does say this, they might be wrong and you might be right in your narrative. But when 5 people tell you this then you should probably see what you are actually saying and think again.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 10:59 GMT

#2111

Here.

On September 05 2015 08:50 n00bKing wrote:
##Vote: raynpelikoneet

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 11:00 GMT

#2112

Funny thing is you literally voted for me after i made a case on mafia.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 11:01 GMT

#2113

And immediately after got pocketed by scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 11:01 GMT

#2115

Okay i am gonna go to work. You guys sheep Koshi he is town jesus and will solve the game with Vivax and Holyflare.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 23 2018 18:10 GMT

#2234

On March 24 2018 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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Dude. Rayn. Tone down the aggression. Absolutely nothing transpired that warrants this aggression or anger from you. You get scum read, sucks man. Wagons don't go your way, feels bad. It doesn't warrant an outpouring of whining and anger. In fact, things are generally going your way and the majority of people are town reading you.

Same thing with rsoultin.

I get that you guys are veterans of this site and might feel entitled for some reason but I feel uncomfortable that you guys frequently flip the whiny frustrated switch at the smallest sign of resistance. And it contributes to a substantially shittier game.

I dont think i am being aggressive, sarcastic yes.
I get frustrated when people cant even think why i am doing the things i do. It doesnt matter to me if they scumread me or not but i cba to argue in my defense against things that are completely hilarious.

Idk, i might start playing like disformation here, just comment on every thing that goes on in thread but never actually do anything with any information. I promise i will do that next game, it will for my own amusement.

Dont even ask why i react to Koshi as i do.

Funnily enough i do t feel like talking to anyone in this game atm except for Palmar and Mocsta, aside from you.

Nothing has been done today except apparently people managed to kill Conversion and dick move analysis alone says he is town, so well done moat likely.

Im just gonna get drunk tonight and probably tomorrow as well.