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On March 22 2018 10:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 10:46 darthfoley wrote:On March 22 2018 10:28 Vivax wrote:On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote:
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs Howso if the mafia chooses to just not shoot at the real vet? ???
If anyone would have ccd disfo yesterday he would have been the lynch. If not mafia, then the cc afterwards unless town goes full retard. And Mocsta if you want to case TT, case TT. But don't just throw observations out there and expect me to start arguing for TT. I don't feel like you are someone worth convincing anyway as so far you turned down each and every single one of my scumreads, some more than the others. I'll just assume for the rest of the game that we won't get along.
That applies to every role???
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I honestly don't know why anyone has given a fuck about Mocsta's vigi claim this whole game.
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On March 22 2018 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn you should read df's cop claim again. This time clicking all the spoilers.
Don't listen to him rayn. Fake news!!
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On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
Pfft.
So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)
I've got some issues with all of them.
-mocsta's palmar and ff reads
-df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum
-conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere
But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me.
Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong
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Maybe ExO is just scum. That would certainly be helpful
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I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated
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On March 23 2018 05:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote:
I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated It will be the other way around when you flip though.
You're simply wrong and that's all there is to it.
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What I don't understand is why Conversion's wagon (if Conversion is indeed town) gained so much cred within 30 minutes of deadline, then all of a sudden lost 5 of the 7 votes within like 5-7 minutes.
Like if he's town, doesn't mafia just get on that wagon a couple times and stay there for *insert reasons.* Idk if I've ever seen a wagon build as quickly as his and crumble as quickly as his. I still think he was a better lynch than Rels.
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On March 23 2018 05:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:18 darthfoley wrote:On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
Pfft.
So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)
I've got some issues with all of them.
-mocsta's palmar and ff reads
-df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum
-conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere
But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me. Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong you and me both lol >< Rels was town. Slam is probably town. I don't want to say Palmar is town yet + Show Spoiler +but I'm beginning to think so which means I had a pretty shitty D1 \o/ Unsurprisingly, but it's still annoying. KSC and rayn still top my town list. Need to talk to mocsta. You I felt a bit better about around EoD? But the mafia motivation for being more cooperative in an EoD that could end in your lynch is kind of obvious. I'll be honest, I considered lynching you more because of not wanting to lynch the counterwagons and KSC/rayn both thought you were scum than because I really feel strongly about your alignment in any way. That fake claim thing hidden in spoilers doesn't help lessen my suspicions though @.@ HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling. Which reminds me of a scum game of his where he drowned me out that way when I was trying to lay down how one of the claims absolutely COULD NOT be true lol >< I'm not going to bother filter-diving him tonight, though. I don't think I'll be any more confident, for one. That can happen D2 if I'm around still and I feel the need to. ExO feels different. Almost like most of his posts are tonally apologizing for scumreading me. Doesn't fit with my memories of him. He kind of had a NK tone that grated. I may have missed it, but what has you suspicious of ExO, df?
Well I've mislynched ExO d1 at least twice and I feel bad lynching lynchbait people D1. I only was really townreading him for scumreading you iirc. I was just siding on the town side of lynchbait rather than mafia side because we shared a couple reads.
I might just sheep people this game tbh
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On March 23 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say this once again, i'm a fucking idiot for not opening a spoiler and darthfoley should always have been the lynch at that time. Shoot him please.
What narrative are you going to push when i flip green?
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On March 23 2018 06:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 06:12 darthfoley wrote:On March 23 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say this once again, i'm a fucking idiot for not opening a spoiler and darthfoley should always have been the lynch at that time. Shoot him please. What narrative are you going to push when i flip green? do you think rayn is scum?
I wouldn't be surprised.
He's flat out lied about the order of things that were central to his accusation on me. Then he backtracked and changed his stance slightly while still blaming me.
If we're vigi'ing liars according to Palmar, shoot Rayn.
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On March 23 2018 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't lie as mafia. Never. Except for when i say "this guy is scum" because it's in itself a lie.
Well, this is a slick way of admitting that I am correct in saying you lied.
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On March 23 2018 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, that could easily be explained by a 90 page game. Or a chipmunk memory like mine. Is that the only reason you have? Because your 'what narrative' accusation definitely sounds like you're calling him scum.
I wouldn't mind if it was a small thing. Obviously it's hard to remember every detail in a 90 page game... which is why I went back and double checked his claim because it felt wrong, and it turned out to be wrong. When confronted by it, he didn't just say "oh yea you're kinda right, my bad. Must've mis-remembered." He half-assed admitted I was right while also STILL claiming something that never happened.
tl;dr
On March 22 2018 07:11 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.
So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia. It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet. There is nothing to agree here. Regardless of how lousy you have been reading my posts it should be apparent i made the read on noobking first -> the one which was "really good" from HF & Mocsta, but somehow you completely have missed all that. Again, nothing to agree here, you're just wrong and bad or mafia. That's it. Are you claiming that your confusing teacher assignment analogy was the same as saying "n00bking is arguing semantics and nitty gritty details that don't particularly matter?" Because if not, I have no idea where in your filter you had this epic first read on n00bking. In fact, a control + F of your filter has you mentioning n00bking only 4 times. In fact, YOU asked HF for HIS read on n00bking. Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2018 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare can you tell me what is your read on noobking and why? Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid. Which you followed with Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Although it's not really even defending logic, it is more like the feeling from his posts is "teacher told me to do this so i am gonna find a scientific reasoning to say X not because i think it's true but because someone said this reasoning is valid 10000 years ago". So.... uhh..... HF was the first person to point out n00bking's focus on semantics and logic based arguments.
to which he/I respond
On March 22 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dont talk shit you didn't even know who made the read first because you had to check it out -- yet HF's read was good and my read was bad. You can stop talking now. LMAO of course I don't remember who made the fucking read first. There are over 70 pages of filter. Just admit that you were wrong. Please quote me where I, darthfoley, said "Rayn is scummy because his n00bking read is bad."
I even make the point you just made rsoultin, before you made it. He still N E V E R quoted anything in my filter that has E V E R said my scum read on rayn comes from his n00bking read (hint: it doesn't exist.)
I don't think he's been memorable. I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names. We've disagreed on multiple reads.
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On March 23 2018 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only time i even go check what i am about to post and that it is actually 100% legit is when i am mafia.
But what if it's 0% legit?
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ykl's vote is still weird as hell. idk man.
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Actually the chance that both Mocsta and Conversion are town is like 3%
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On March 23 2018 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Let me make this very clear for you all: raynpelikoneet, Holyflare and Mocsta all make almost the same read on noobking. This is what darthfoley says: Show nested quote +I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees. So there is that. The only thing other than my noobking read at this point is my read on Exo_. There is never any comment on Exo_ form darthfoley. This is what he says about Exo_: Show nested quote +ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM. ....and Kelsier is scum because he doesn't want df to roleplay (like fucking everyone).
Dude your "read" on n00bking was some confusing ass analogy about a teacher and measurement and X marks the spot that wasn't original because 1) I didn't understand your point and 2) it wasn't memorable because I didn't understand it
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On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote:Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e. I think the risk is too high cool people will die. RIP 3 townies. I am paying attention. Suprise! Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx. Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players. + Show Spoiler +Top town
18. Coagulation (town seal)
9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world)
Townish
3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good)
17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made)
4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good)
20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him)
I have hope for these players
15. Palmar (high hopes)
1. Holyflare (less high hopes)
Can flip either way
8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie)
14. disformation (still looks mafia to me)
10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe)
11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town)
5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet)
mafia
2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.)
12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.)
16. Fecalfeast (0 impact)
Yes, I pushed a 7 vote lynch on my teammates within 30 minutes EoD
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On March 23 2018 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So apparently, aside from what i just said, darthfoley thinks i am mafia because i haven't called "strong players" mafia. That is super bs reason to call anyone scum because by default there should be no assumption that any of the "strong players" are even mafia over other people.
Has df called any of the "strong players" mafia? No, he just dislikes me and rsoultin for bs reasons. Tell me df, which of the strong players have you called mafia aside from me now (which honestly seems to be pure omgus because the reasoning is just completely invalid).
Depends on who you consider "strong players."
I've thought HF and Vivax were townie since early on.
I've consistently been suspicious on you and rsoultin.
I've ignored Koshi until recently but I'm not particularly impressed by his play. I haven't read his filter individually, but he can be considered somewhat scummy. He's been super detached from the game imo
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