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On March 21 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.
Yes, this is what I said lol.
I mean, the point is I didn't find anything super scummy about noob I just found his posts boring?
That's a far cry from saying I'm voting him because I don't think he's scum and I'm bored.
I'm not sure how to make this clearer to you.
Other people say he's scummy for doing the thing he did last game.
I say I don't really see anything glaringly scummy, and it's not actually that close to what happened last game. But his posts are boring. I.e. could be scum.
Do you not understand why boring posts could yield scum? It means a player isn't going anywhere or saying anything interesting...i.e. blending, possibly having trouble scumhunting.
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Basically I don't know how I can explain it to you if you can't see the difference between those two statements lol ><
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On March 21 2018 21:20 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 21:09 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. Yes, this is what I said lol. I mean, the point is I didn't find anything super scummy about noob I just found his posts boring? That's a far cry from saying I'm voting him because I don't think he's scum and I'm bored. I'm not sure how to make this clearer to you. Other people say he's scummy for doing the thing he did last game. I say I don't really see anything glaringly scummy, and it's not actually that close to what happened last game. But his posts are boring. I.e. could be scum. Do you not understand why boring posts could yield scum? It means a player isn't going anywhere or saying anything interesting...i.e. blending, possibly having trouble scumhunting. I think it’s a contradiction. If boring posts are scummy, then you should think his posts are scummy if you think they’re boring. I don’t think it’s a very good reason to say you’re okay with lynching him just because his posts are boring. In my opinion you are directly stating you do not find him scummy but don’t care, not that you find him boring and therefore scummy. Town should want to lynch scum, not a boring town
Your opiniion is wrong  I know what I said. And I wasn't looking to lynch 'boring town'
You are taking qualifiers and using them as absolutes.
He is not the scummiest scum who ever scummed =/= he is not scummy.
I don't know how to teach you reading comprehension. And I don't have much nice to say. Like, I know for a fact that I have probably some of the best reading comprehension in the States, at least out of those who bother to apply for graduate programs. Highest percentile.
I don't actually KNOW what people should be able to comprehend and shouldn't. But my instinctive response to this is to call you bad for not being able to read.
But if you want to put a vote on me or call me scum based off not understanding English and choosing to interpret it differently than it was written, I can't stop you. And I don't think you're scum, so whatever.
This is pointless.
Once you have an actual reason to scumread me, I might address it. Otherwise -shoos-
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meh
@ExO that was mean. I'm letting myself get frustrated. I'm just not sure why you bother asking the question if you're then going to insist on interpreting it however you damn well please when I explain it to you.
@disfo it's based off how I read him last game that i felt worked better than how i did in the past. the chupazi thing was mentioned last game? but not explained. let me find it
as for scum games, don't know. i just think a difference in gameplay + a difference in mindset = high chance of his flipping scum. could do a meta dive if ppl remain resistant and it looks like no one will bother lynching/shooting him. see if i'm wrong (like joni suggests) or if there's more evidence that might help me get him lynched
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@ExO It probably was bad because he probably is just town -shrugs- Yes, I thought he could be scum earlier. You can read my filter for the full read progression instead of wasting time asking things that are already readily available. It's still possible but I think he's more likely town now. In part because of what's already in my filter, and in part because there's less arguing just to argue coming across from him. I think there were times he could have just nitpicked my posts toward him and didn't.
I'm not going to retract the semi-apology for being mean. I am, however, going to say that misreading a post and then deciding to interpret intention based on the misread post is not good play. If you'd decided to interpret it differently while understanding it properly I'd have more respect for your read. Still wrong, though.
On March 12 2018 09:43 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2018 06:11 darthfoley wrote:
I actually think it's kind of interesting that the other medics have been a little gunshy about Slam, considering he's what you might consider to be "lynchbait" material. That’s just the curse. I am pretty well protected by the curse as town.
I'm bad and he's apparently using chupazi differently...like him being wrong on things and that influencing flips or something. But this is referencing what I was talking about regarding his perception of the game. See the filtered post by darth foley for context. Not exactly a smoking gun, but it does indicate he still ascribes to that mindset as recently as the game that just finished.
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On March 21 2018 21:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid.
@KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because:
- viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier
- focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town
- he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason
Removing disinfo from the lynch pool Can you point to where you found vivax Scum hunting? Maybe my lenses are clouded here, but it looks to me like he hasn't done a lot of this. Again, it looks to me like he's tunneled me without really even analyzing my posts, and outside of that not scum hunted at all. also @rsoultin, this post—where have you seen Vuvax scum hunting?
I ascribe to the Rayn school of reading Vivax. I.e. Vivax is making wild conspiracy theory claims. Computer says town. I saw what you said regarding his 'tunneling' you, but frankly, I don't see why you're convinced that someone can't have multiple scumreads and push one of them (presumably the one they're most certain of). To me, that's basically what town play is.
So, long story short, even if I weren't townreading him off something that I trust way more than the read of an ExO who is currently being scumread by Viva, I wouldn't find your argument compelling.
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On March 21 2018 21:57 Rels wrote:
##Vote rsoultin
I hate you this game rsoul. You're so bland. In particular your vote post was so bad.
Lol >< I don't think you believe this. I also don't think I can evaluate it before you play more.
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On March 21 2018 22:00 Rels wrote:
Other people I could lynch: Palmar exo
Don't really know: Slam FF SL disfo HF.
All of the other I townread to some point.
Seriously?
How exactly do you hate me so much when you want to lynch
PALMAR who i want to lynch
SLAM who I want to lynch
ff/sl, who i also said i could lynch
your world makes no sense
explain your palmar/exo reads and your townreads
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On March 21 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:02 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 21:57 Rels wrote:
##Vote rsoultin
I hate you this game rsoul. You're so bland. In particular your vote post was so bad. Lol >< I don't think you believe this. I also don't think I can evaluate it before you play more. Well which is it ? Do you think I don't believe it so I'm scum, or are you not sure so I'm null?
My ego says it is HIGHLY unlikely that you actually find me bland this game. I don't trust my ego to be correct. Ergo
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I know that reads are not entirely based off association D1, but Rels' lynch list (ignoring the null could lynches)
is literally me/Palmar/ExO
Where I don't think anyone sees this exchange between ExO and myself and thinks oh, that's SvS! And what earthly reason would I have for pinging Palmar out before anyone if we were scum together >< Much less for hey man he feels wrong!
I would at least expect you to think, hey, I'm probably wrong here on something because these people MAKE NO SENSE together. Maybe you still come to the conclusion that people are independently scummy, but it seems like you're just throwing names out there without considering it at all.
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On March 21 2018 22:10 Conversion wrote:
rsoultin can you spend your time figuring out the rest of your unknowns instead of arguing with rels
Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this.
Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass.
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On March 21 2018 22:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
I know that reads are not entirely based off association D1, but Rels' lynch list (ignoring the null could lynches)
is literally me/Palmar/ExO
Where I don't think anyone sees this exchange between ExO and myself and thinks oh, that's SvS! And what earthly reason would I have for pinging Palmar out before anyone if we were scum together >< Much less for hey man he feels wrong!
I would at least expect you to think, hey, I'm probably wrong here on something because these people MAKE NO SENSE together. Maybe you still come to the conclusion that people are independently scummy, but it seems like you're just throwing names out there without considering it at all. I don't expect anyone to have the perfect 3 man team in his first read post D1. So no the fact that your discussion is apparently not SvS (I only skimmed it so I have no opinion on that) wouldn't change my reads individually.
Pft. Your here is my progression reading the thread filter is a pain in the ass to follow. I'm just going to see the rest of what you do to decide if you're scum seeing a possibility in thread (atmosphere? forgot the word it's not that) to get me mislynched and jumping on the opportunity, or just wrong.
I'm hoping the former because I find your scumread insulting.
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On March 21 2018 22:13 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:12 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 22:10 Conversion wrote:
rsoultin can you spend your time figuring out the rest of your unknowns instead of arguing with rels Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this. Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass. man why are people so testy in this game. that's my job Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 19:15 rsoultin wrote:
And now I am going to pretty blatantly be a hypocrite and say that even though HF isn't all shiny for me, I'm also not seeing anything glaring that makes me think he could be scum. Tone tips it slightly towards town for me.
HF removed.
That leaves me with:
Palmar/Slam
Conversion, ff, sl
Hah!
I like that size much better. The chances that's the actual scum team is small, especially since Rels is just a ? and some of the other people in the not lynch list are there for light townreads, but I'm happy with that.
Although I do realize that means scum would be hardly playing. Then again, with these lynches lined up, if I'm right on at least those townreads, that's not all that unlikely really. explain your read on me and ff, then. your read on me seemed waffly as shit and I have no idea where you are with it
Explain why you don't understand them
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Okay, tbf, my read on you was back and forth.
Namely, you've only been focused on noob. You don't seem to be trying to suss out other alignments. That is scummy.
Caveats are: scumreading for his entrance wasn't bad
you could be tunneled town
But frankly, even tunneled town usually bother to attempt to make other reads even as they're tunneling.
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On March 21 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
Meh, could lynch conv. Super narrow focus on noob, even though I don't find the initial scumread awful. Chance he could just be town tunneling and thinking he 'caught' scum. Bit lower with hardly any other reads coming in at all.
^ I don't always write out names.
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Taking rels out of my don't lynch list. He can sit with conv/sl/ff and keep them cozy.
I'd still prefer slam/palmar. Slam more than palmar. Both more than the other four.
I'm not going to pretend there isn't an element of OMGUS behind the Rels read. But it's hard for me to imagine it wouldn't be tantalizing with at least two probable town (ExO/Viva) willing to lynch me to see if you couldn't get that party started. And Rels is more than brave enough to attempt it as scum.
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On March 21 2018 22:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote:On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.
I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.
I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform. Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes. Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with. I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote. pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list ---- Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post --- apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer. I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now. FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh ---- I'd probably have a lynch pool of dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy does sicklucker not post d1 anymore? obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man. Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see Men are allowed to cry too. Quite good for mental health.
Hey, do you buy the Rels read on me? Am I just being butthurt?
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On March 21 2018 22:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 22:25 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote:On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.
I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.
I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform. Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes. Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with. I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote. pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list ---- Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post --- apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer. I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now. FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh ---- I'd probably have a lynch pool of dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy does sicklucker not post d1 anymore? obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man. Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see Men are allowed to cry too. Quite good for mental health. Hey, do you buy the Rels read on me? Am I just being butthurt? Unfortunately I've thought you've been a bit underwhelming but not particularly in a scummy way though. Can see someone taking that as scummy. Also I'm now scum reading disformation quite a bit. Went filter diving and the following issues arose: Awkward entry into the game. No real reads till people started making them. All the reads he makes aren't waffles they are hedges. Not the good kind of hedges either. They are hedges that lean in one direction where he 50/50s a person IN ALMOST EVERY POST but then gives really off brand meta reasons to say they're town or whatever to complete the hedge because it looks like he can't think of in game reasons to be wrong. It's peculiar and scummy.
Pfft -_- yeah I'm just going to go nurse a smarting ego for awhile.
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I'd prefer other lynches but I can lynch disinfo -shrugs- You guys could totally be right lol ><
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I'd like to know why you think so. I can guess, but it's pretty easy just to state x is closer than to y than z.
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