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rsoultin
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@KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because: - viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier - focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town - he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason Removing disinfo from the lynch pool | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:50 Mocsta wrote: I have this tell, about game mechanics specific to this and .. i think the tell is SUPER unlikely to be applicable to mafia So i thought it applied to FF, but i just double checked and I hate to say this. ffs... it was a post by slam. i dunno what to say, i cant consider a vote on him whatsoever this cycle and i dont want to go through the tell. sorry ... dude why do you break my heart? anyway, @nk, agree on tt, not lynching him today | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:53 n00bKing wrote: Which part? Do you mean I shouldn't hope for him to be helpful later? Or something else? I have no idea if he'll be useful later or not? I'm just not going to remove him from my lynchpool on that basis alone when I see no reason to townread him. | ||
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Not caring for his reads list, not caring for the lack of suspicion on hf/palmar...hf in particular. Unless I'm misremembering, hf is not someone he's prone to townread easily. Only caveat is if he's scumreading noobking, he might find HF pushing him reason enough to put aside wariness of HF. So he's not up in the slam/palmar section. | ||
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HF removed. That leaves me with: Palmar/Slam Conversion, ff, sl Hah! I like that size much better. The chances that's the actual scum team is small, especially since Rels is just a ? and some of the other people in the not lynch list are there for light townreads, but I'm happy with that. Although I do realize that means scum would be hardly playing. Then again, with these lynches lined up, if I'm right on at least those townreads, that's not all that unlikely really. | ||
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joooooni you don't want to lynch anyone i do except ff and sl lol >< do you have a game in mind where slam breaks with his chupazi mindset and does this as town? because if that's the case i'm not as sure on him i really do think that disinfo's approach to people scumreading him is more likely to come from town. do you disagree? | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know lol.  I don't know, i am generally terrible at reading disfo, but if, AND WHEN what Koshi told me in last game's obs QT (when i was sure disfo is mafia and he was town) stands, i think he is mafia. I know i am kind of contradicting here but I trust Koshi and my own evidence says mafia. nh all of these secret reasons @.@ slam is town for -insert reason that can't be discussed- disinfo is scum for -insert mystery reason- pfft. i think you and mocsta are town so this is just rude | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ah yes, you are right. That is indeed strange. Palmar can probably answer you on that. I can't. What? Palmar is pure feels for me. But he's hardly last resort. I want him and slam over the other three? Thought that was clear. (Palmar this game is kind of what NK was last game for me. Just...I feel there is scum there but I'd rather push the guy I have more articulate reasons to scumread.) | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: uh what? I have no secret reasons anywhere. Then what did he tell you in obs? I don't even know which obs you're referring to lol >< | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin it was not in any obs it was post-game in the game we both played in last time, don't have time to check the game since i need to go mobile. Okay. I vaguely remember that specific comment, actually. It just sounds highly subjective? I presume that's why you're trusting koshi, then. Nh. I really can't pinpoint my issue with Palmar. Mocsta's point seems valid enough, but I was hardly looking at him that closely. It just felt...eh. God I'm awful at these explanations. Like, a town Palmar trolling or giving his sword to someone he townreads, etc. etc. can feel eh and that to me makes sense. He doesn't have the time or didn't put the time in. (Admittedly, I am shit at reading a trolling Palmar and will townread him when he's scum then.) But feeling eh while appearing to try? That's not something I associate with town Palmar. Especially when he enters the thread like he intends to take it over and be the town god leading us to victory lol >< which is the impression I got from some of his posts. As I said, it's entirely feels. I can claim that it vaguely reminds me of other games in which he was scum but my memory of those are so hazy that hardly matters. | ||
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On March 21 2018 02:56 disformation wrote: aight. a shame this is no m13. feel like in a m13 3 votes + ppl already being willing to consolidate on me there would be a really high chance for scum being in there. hoshi: has done this minimalistic / no fucks given D1 stuff as town before. even got him ml d1 in a game I was in for it. thing that confuses me is that he seemed to have a really good read on me in a recent game. so a bit paraboid, but would not want to lynch atm. ksc: no idea why that dude is so angry. other than that his filter looks like he is actually trying to figure out the game. though. It is somewhat puzzling to me that he understands koshi's read on me, cause I figured that to be more of a meta thing? hm. actually think he saw something else but similar in my post? *shrugs* gonna call him town for actually trying to figure stuff out. nk: still has the least explained vote on me. and that is not an easy feat given how detailed the reads/votes of ksc and hoshi are. HF's posts on him also were not bad. decent scum chance I guess. though as conv pointed out, he also is giving no fucks. like wouldn't have scum pulled _some_ excuse to vote me out of their ass by now? conv: hm. actually fairly locked in on nk for most of his filter. somewhat annoyed at md. think some ppl posted he sounds a bit forced? not really getting that feeling tbh. would feel better if he had more reads than like nk as scum and me as implied scum lean? super lukewarm. so. if there is scum on me it's prolly nk or maybe conv. full paranoia on koshi if he is alive like d4or something. if all four of them are town imma be somewhat sad. dinner and then I want to look at exo and his vote on ksc again. ^ This is admittedly a generalization independent of meta because I don't have a mental profile of him, but approaching the game from the perspective of 'hey, people are voting for me, which (one) of them is/are mafia' is something I generally associate with town. (And he wants to engage with me about slam ;o;) | ||
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and 'calling me out' has nothing to do with how my reads progress i think you're town, exo. and you're frankly shit at reading me. so i'd appreciate it if you gave this read of yours the doubt it deserves. it's pretty irritating when someone is this certain i'm scum every game and is this constantly wrong, but never seems to adjust his behavior @ rayn, yeah idk. i'm not sure on disinfo at all, just would be more comfortable lynching into my five. and the comment about wanting to talk about slam had more to do with my wanting to not lynch him than that making him town lol >< selfishness | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:31 ExO_ wrote: I'll admit, I've been bad at reading you in the past, and in general am very susceptible to OMGUSing hard and tunneling hard instead of being to assess and re-evaluate. However I think I raised some very valid points when I posted. You weren't offering any hard reads, were very wishy-washy and were sticking to your one read. I'll take another look at your filter but you're still pretty high on my list. Does anybody have an example of a scum game for Noobking I can look at? He's made so many long ass posts and it's hard for me to believe scum could sustain his level of posts like this. A lot of the posts are terrible, but he is at least taking the time to type up all of that consistently. -shrugs- you can be wrong. but i think i'm just as entitled to be annoyed by it. it's not like i really ever get mislynched barring highly unusual circumstances lol >< but if you want real talk for your future rsoul reading i'll give it to you i don't make shit up. my reads are what they are, and i don't misrepresent my certainty. i'm not an arrogant shit who thinks she's right all the time when experience has proven otherwise. that's why you see waffles anyway, carry on. i've expressed my annoyance and it's not terribly relevant to the game | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote: 5 mafia would be unbalanced unless town has 3 protection roles so I am assuming 4 mafia. If there are 5 mafia hosts fucked up. Or should asap change the amount of night kills. So if there are 5 mafia. Contact the hosts that their balance is potentially shit. Remember mafia has members/2 night kills rounded up. So 4 makes a lot of sense. Calix is probably smart. -shrugs- idk. i think assuming there's 5 isn't awful, because if we're wrong we just win earlier \o/ or...were not going to win anyway? lol | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:36 Holyflare wrote: Is my filter even good to be town read? eh...not really. certainly not for hard town reads. then again, i have trouble confidently reading you town anyway -shrugs- | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote: @rsoultin, Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player. If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:43 Koshi wrote: Artanis and you are so alike. 11vs3 is a normal game. So you think it is fine to add 66% more mafia while adding less than 40% townies while making it so that mafia has 300% more killing power than normal, well let's say 250% more on average with roles. If this isnt 16 vs 4 I will be so sad. More townies is balanced with a shitton more nk power. Okay, you're probably right | ||
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